Fake or real 1970 datejust 1601

[Tono0215]

Hi Everyone new here . I got a guys selling me a datejust 1970 1601 .

But no papers and no box . I know first red flag . However wanna share some pictures and see what you guys think . I ve been checking and re checking movement and all just to confirm it but would like a couple of opinions
Thanks

My main concerns are
the minute and hour hands
No luminous (but i think some dial models of this era were non luminous )
The crown looks a bit off to me
The registered design inscriptions seems a bit different from others
The obvious …no papers

Cheers and thanks for the input will be very helpful

[swaini3]

Better pictures needed

[PRSWILL]

Better pics yeah- but it looks legit- what's the weight? Show a closeup of the mechanism- especially the spring.

[mapalfa]

Hard to tell without really good pics, but from what you've posted that looks very close to my 1968(ish) 1603.

I can't see someone going to the effort of faking the movement for a watch that's not that popular or valuable. At the worst I'd guess it's a franken.

[southtexas]

It’s real


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[Nick9]

Just to add that the absence of papers on a watch that old is NOT a red flag. Very uncommon to have them still around.

[dannyp]

Also remember: Fakes of that era were pretty bad.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Nick9

Just to add that the absence of papers on a watch that old is NOT a red flag. Very uncommon to have them still around.