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sleddog · 9 July 2009, 01:54 PM

Hello to you all....I have a question regarding an authentic(or not?) rolex!!
Does a copy(fake) usually come with papers?? You see I just purchased(online) a 14060M Sub and I'm a 3 hour drive to the nearest AD...Dying to know now if its real or not!! It has papers with numbers matching(as I removed bracelet) boxes and original purchase reciept from Bucherer in Geneva....Everything looks good but not 100% sure....The divers extension though seems loose and wont seem to lock back in to the unextended position!! Other than that ,all seems good...Etching on Crystal is there,Triplock crown looks identical to my GMT IIc TT,winds great,sounds as it should...It is an F serial...I would take pics but my camera skills are horrible and cant get a clear enough shot to show!! Any thoughts people???

Oh,and the papers look good plus the case serial numbers and model number look sharp and almost machine stamped and not poorly etched..!

sleddog · 9 July 2009, 02:38 PM

Here is the best I can do in the poor light(and skills) that I have!..

Andad · 9 July 2009, 07:00 PM

Compare. Looks good to me.

TimeToGo · 9 July 2009, 07:15 PM

First, you took an excellent picture of this beauty (non-COSC).

Congratulations on this beautiful timepiece!

idk01 · 9 July 2009, 08:15 PM

Nice looking pair :-)

Love it on the NATO Eddie

Aston · 9 July 2009, 08:38 PM

Hopefully fakes don't come with papers... but they can! (real papers with fake watch and fake S/N)

How looks your S/N between the lugs (in comparaison with your GMT IIc if you have one)?

Btw for me Sub looks OK for me.

sleddog · 10 July 2009, 09:19 AM

Hi again......Thanx for the input!! I will be tacking it to the AD this weekend to be sure but I feel better and almost sure it is after all real......
Aston: As far as my GMT,I have never tried to remove the bracelet from that(a little harder to remove it).The S/N between the lugs on the sub look good(Sharp and almost machine stamped looking!).....Again thanx for the replies....I will provide a view of my full collection soon on another thread and post, plus update after the AD visit with the Sub..!

Aston · 10 July 2009, 10:09 AM

sleddog1000,

I also own a GMT IIC. I took a picture of the numbers between the lugs, here how they are if you want to compare:

For the laser etched crown (not my picture here):

Hope this help

sleddog · 10 July 2009, 02:42 PM

Thanks Aston!! They compare very well!! Except the model though of course.....Also under a loupe the etching looks exact as well,so maybe(fingers crossed,I have the real deal!) Normally I only purchase from an AD but the price was right ($2500 CAD) and its a model that I always loved....Its going to become my daily wearer as my GMT and Navitimer are for the special and rare outings...
Here is a little look at my collection....

Aston · 10 July 2009, 08:07 PM

Hey sleddog1000, nice collection there!

If the etching looks fine, you can be 99,99% sure that your watch is OK .It is extremely difficult to reproduce it.

But I know your fears about buying a "pre-owned" watch. I'm currently exactly in the same case and it is normal to check twice.

If you can go to an AD, then you will be definitely sure about it, and you can then wear it in good health ;-)

sleddog · 14 July 2009, 03:57 PM

Great news!!!! Went to the AD on the weekend,and all checked out 100%!!!

Its in great shape,had it polished(just the case),and no need to service for at least another 2 years.......So happy and got it at a great price!!
Now onto my next find.....So hard not to buy anything at the dealers

..
S#$T, I'm hooked.!

idk01 · 14 July 2009, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog1000

Great news!!!! Went to the AD on the weekend,and all checked out 100%!!!

Its in great shape,had it polished(just the case),and no need to service for at least another 2 years.......So happy and got it at a great price!!
Now onto my next find.....So hard not to buy anything at the dealers

..
S#$T, I'm hooked.!

Number 1, You joined TRF Rob, you signed the deal on getting hooked then

Well done my friend

Always like to hear good news

sleddog · 14 July 2009, 04:18 PM

Cheers Dave!! I'll drink to that......Man your wracking up the hours tonight my friend!

Geez,after midnight already!!! I was just getting into it.!!!

idk01 · 14 July 2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleddog1000

Cheers Dave!! I'll drink to that......Man your wracking up the hours tonight my friend!

Geez,after midnight already!!! I was just getting into it.!!!

I'm having a work from home day :-) first time in a while, and I have the house to myself :-)

9 July 2009, 01:54 PM	#1
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	Fake or Real??? Hello to you all....I have a question regarding an authentic(or not?) rolex!! Does a copy(fake) usually come with papers?? You see I just purchased(online) a 14060M Sub and I'm a 3 hour drive to the nearest AD...Dying to know now if its real or not!! It has papers with numbers matching(as I removed bracelet) boxes and original purchase reciept from Bucherer in Geneva....Everything looks good but not 100% sure....The divers extension though seems loose and wont seem to lock back in to the unextended position!! Other than that ,all seems good...Etching on Crystal is there,Triplock crown looks identical to my GMT IIc TT,winds great,sounds as it should...It is an F serial...I would take pics but my camera skills are horrible and cant get a clear enough shot to show!! Any thoughts people??? Oh,and the papers look good plus the case serial numbers and model number look sharp and almost machine stamped and not poorly etched..!

9 July 2009, 08:15 PM	#5
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Nice looking pair :-) Love it on the NATO Eddie __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

14 July 2009, 03:57 PM	#11
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	Great news!!!! Went to the AD on the weekend,and all checked out 100%!!! Its in great shape,had it polished(just the case),and no need to service for at least another 2 years.......So happy and got it at a great price!! Now onto my next find.....So hard not to buy anything at the dealers.. S#$T, I'm hooked.!

9 July 2009, 07:15 PM	#4
TimeToGo 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,719	First, you took an excellent picture of this beauty (non-COSC). Congratulations on this beautiful timepiece!

9 July 2009, 08:38 PM	#6
Aston "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: France Posts: 79	Hopefully fakes don't come with papers... but they can! (real papers with fake watch and fake S/N) How looks your S/N between the lugs (in comparaison with your GMT IIc if you have one)? Btw for me Sub looks OK for me.

10 July 2009, 09:19 AM	#7
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	Hi again......Thanx for the input!! I will be tacking it to the AD this weekend to be sure but I feel better and almost sure it is after all real...... Aston: As far as my GMT,I have never tried to remove the bracelet from that(a little harder to remove it).The S/N between the lugs on the sub look good(Sharp and almost machine stamped looking!).....Again thanx for the replies....I will provide a view of my full collection soon on another thread and post, plus update after the AD visit with the Sub..!

10 July 2009, 10:09 AM	#8
Aston "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: France Posts: 79	sleddog1000, I also own a GMT IIC. I took a picture of the numbers between the lugs, here how they are if you want to compare: For the laser etched crown (not my picture here): Hope this help

10 July 2009, 08:07 PM	#10
Aston "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: France Posts: 79	Hey sleddog1000, nice collection there! If the etching looks fine, you can be 99,99% sure that your watch is OK .It is extremely difficult to reproduce it. But I know your fears about buying a "pre-owned" watch. I'm currently exactly in the same case and it is normal to check twice. If you can go to an AD, then you will be definitely sure about it, and you can then wear it in good health ;-)

14 July 2009, 04:18 PM	#13
sleddog TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Nearby. Posts: 24,930	Cheers Dave!! I'll drink to that......Man your wracking up the hours tonight my friend! Geez,after midnight already!!! I was just getting into it.!!!

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