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eus6267 · 22 October 2009, 08:57 PM

I was at my local pawn shop yesterday and they had for sale a Coke bezel GMT Master II with the Stick numerals.

Is this a highly sought after watch now? If so, could this be a possible investment (like a Red Submariner)?

Thanks!

Deep Sea · 22 October 2009, 09:05 PM

Not in the least. The internet perpetuated the myth about the stick numerals more than anything. When I bought my D serial GMT II, numersous AD's had the exact same watch. It is nothing more than one of the three different variants of the font for the dial.

Dan Pierce · 22 October 2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Deep Sea

Not in the least. The internet perpetuated the myth about the stick numerals more than anything. When I bought my D serial GMT II, numersous AD's had the exact same watch. It is nothing more than one of the three different variants of the font for the dial.

Spot on, Martin.

dP

karmatp · 23 October 2009, 12:09 AM

It is just another Internet myth, the sticks mean nothing, they have been around for years.

padi56 · 23 October 2009, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deep Sea

Not in the least. The internet perpetuated the myth about the stick numerals more than anything. When I bought my D serial GMT II, numersous AD's had the exact same watch. It is nothing more than one of the three different variants of the font for the dial.

Have to agree 100% and anyone paying a premium price must be sixpence short of a shilling same for goes the 3186 version.

Quicksilver · 23 October 2009, 01:41 AM

I heard that the 3186 versions were changing hands at something like 2k sterling above list. Seems pretty crazy for a blue spring

The stick numerals are no guarantee of a 3186 movement inside. The only way to check is to take the back off.

HDHNTER · 23 October 2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by karmatp

It is just another Internet myth, the sticks mean nothing, they have been around for years.

This

cpsomas · 23 October 2009, 01:55 AM

Can someone post a pic of this? I don't think I have ever seen one before.

Quicksilver · 23 October 2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cpsomas

Can someone post a pic of this? I don't think I have ever seen one before.

Here you are -

cpsomas · 23 October 2009, 02:01 AM

I guess I must be blind. What is the difference? Must admit, still a bit of a noob.

moviefreak · 23 October 2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cpsomas

I guess I must be blind. What is the difference? Must admit, still a bit of a noob.

I guess it is GMT MASTER II and GMT MASTER ||

different font..

Quicksilver · 23 October 2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cpsomas

I guess I must be blind. What is the difference? Must admit, still a bit of a noob.

Here is the "regular" version which uses Roman numerals for the II. Slight font variation - around for years. The excitement was caused by some of the last stick dials housing the new parachrom spring movement. The stick dial is "rarer" in the sense of their being fewer around but this does not mean that they are any more valuable or collectable than the regular Roman font - I am sure they are not. However, a stick dial with the new parachrom spring movement may be more collectable and a better future investment - no rational reason for this, it's just the way collectors are. But no way would I pay extra for one - seems a bit crazy. I like my GMT with that old trusty workhouse the 3185 inside.

John Holbrook gives you the lowdown - http://www.rolexreferencepage.com/16710B/16710B.html

cpsomas · 23 October 2009, 02:07 AM

Now I see it. Thanks as always guys!

FlyinHawaiian · 21 April 2023, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deep Sea

Not in the least. The internet perpetuated the myth about the stick numerals more than anything. When I bought my D serial GMT II, numersous AD's had the exact same watch. It is nothing more than one of the three different variants of the font for the dial.

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Originally Posted by karmatp

It is just another Internet myth, the sticks mean nothing, they have been around for years.

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Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree 100% and anyone paying a premium price must be sixpence short of a shilling same for goes the 3186 version.

...Fast forward 14 years later...any change of options of which dial is more collectable or sought after? I'm ISO a 16710 ref now.

Casey VP-26 · 21 April 2023, 07:29 AM

Follow the Money

fishingbear · 21 April 2023, 07:47 AM

‘Swiss’ Roman 16710 vs my stick 16710 vs my Roman 16713.

FlyinHawaiian · 21 April 2023, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fishingbear

Roman 16710 vs my stick 16710 vs my Roman 16713.

Very nice! Thanks!

22 October 2009, 08:57 PM	#1
eus6267 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 487	Rolex GMT-Master II (16710) with Stick Numerals? I was at my local pawn shop yesterday and they had for sale a Coke bezel GMT Master II with the Stick numerals. Is this a highly sought after watch now? If so, could this be a possible investment (like a Red Submariner)? Thanks!

22 October 2009, 09:05 PM	#2
Deep Sea "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: NC Watch: A Rolex or two Posts: 952	Not in the least. The internet perpetuated the myth about the stick numerals more than anything. When I bought my D serial GMT II, numersous AD's had the exact same watch. It is nothing more than one of the three different variants of the font for the dial. __________________ Deep Sea A few Rolex & a Tudor Sub An Omega & a bunch of Breitling

23 October 2009, 12:09 AM	#4
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	It is just another Internet myth, the sticks mean nothing, they have been around for years. __________________ My grails:

23 October 2009, 01:41 AM	#6
Quicksilver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: David Location: London+Guangzhou Watch: ing watches Posts: 2,603	I heard that the 3186 versions were changing hands at something like 2k sterling above list. Seems pretty crazy for a blue spring The stick numerals are no guarantee of a 3186 movement inside. The only way to check is to take the back off. __________________ Rolex Sea Dweller 116600, GMT Master II 16710 (Pepsi) and 116710 BLNR, Daytona 116500LN, Submariner 14060M.

23 October 2009, 01:55 AM	#8
cpsomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lower 48 Watch: SMP 2254.50 Posts: 337	Can someone post a pic of this? I don't think I have ever seen one before.

23 October 2009, 02:01 AM	#10
cpsomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lower 48 Watch: SMP 2254.50 Posts: 337	I guess I must be blind. What is the difference? Must admit, still a bit of a noob.

23 October 2009, 02:07 AM	#13
cpsomas "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lower 48 Watch: SMP 2254.50 Posts: 337	Now I see it. Thanks as always guys!

21 April 2023, 07:29 AM	#15
Casey VP-26 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 2,718	Follow the Money

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