Calibre 3285 -8s a day

[sevykor]

AD will check amplitude and make the recommendation. Some people are okay with 8 second variance,but I doubt Rolex S.A. is okay with it. It’s certainly not flattering for them.


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

I must admit minus eight seconds a day would bug me. I would send it in sooner rather than later, giving Rolex the opportunity to fix it on their dime if it was only just out of warranty. If they declined I’d still pay to get it serviced because minus eight seconds a day would still bug me.

[Matteo E]

I got the same watch the same month and had the same problem. Was actually up to losing 17 seconds a day.

I sent it in a couple months ago before the warranty ran out and now it gains 1-2 seconds a day.

It’s much more pleasurable to wear now for me.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by MRBolton

Exactly. People will still go, "Oh, you paid for the watch that is supposed to perform at -2/+2 seconds a day, and it's out of regulation by a factor of 4x? Don't worry about it!" It's perfectly reasonable to be bothered by performance not being as expected and advertised.

A watch can run at -10 minutes/day with a precision of +/- 2 seconds/day.

You said ‘perform’?

If the OP’s watch is -8 second/day every day then it can be adjusted for accuracy.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by saxo3

You are 100 % correct and I made no link to the 32xx issue. Many owner take the -2/+2 sec/day specification of the precision (!) without reflecting too much what this really means in daily life and how Rolex measures it.

Originally Posted by Smobews

You mean accuracy (!)

No! Screenshot of Rolex specification (source: Rolex.com)

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by JMGoodnight369

Why can’t there ever be a civilized discussion on the subject of 32xx movements?

I agree, you will not find an answer to your question on the internet.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

If it's only just out of warranty perhaps they might still cover it …

Exactly. RSC told me that they have some flexibility (a few weeks to months) with the 5 year warranty for the 32xx. If you provide timegrapher data and can proof, e.g., too low amplitudes after 24 hours, RSC will service the movement for free.

[Scottyboy]

Originally Posted by saxo3

Exactly. RSC told me that they have some flexibility (a few weeks to months) with the 5 year warranty for the 32xx. If you provide timegrapher data and can proof, e.g., too low amplitudes after 24 hours, RSC will service the movement for free.

Thats good to know.

My Submariner has already been in once for a fix, it came back +5 seconds a day (was -15) and is now around +3, hopefully it has just settled in to it's stride and will stay around +3 for many a year, fingers crossed

[Smobews]

Originally Posted by saxo3

No! Screenshot of Rolex specification (source: Rolex.com)

gotcha. so the precision should be +/- 2 spd according to Rolex, and in OP's case, his accuracy is off by 8 seconds.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Smobews

gotcha. so the precision should be +/- 2 spd according to Rolex, and in OP's case, his accuracy is off by 8 seconds.

That was at time of testing in controlled environment to this precision -2+2 seconds,but in the real world on the wrist with owners wearing habits could slightly vary almost daily.

[wgdaytona]

Well said Padi. My watch would have to lose a couple minutes a day, and that might still take a week for me to notice! lol. Oh, and think of car manufacturers and horsepower ratings... claimed vs. Dyno... and don't get me started on gas mileage! Don't worry, enjoy.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by wgdaytona

Well said Padi. My watch would have to lose a couple minutes a day, and that might still take a week for me to notice! lol. Oh, and think of car manufacturers and horsepower ratings... claimed vs. Dyno... and don't get me started on gas mileage! Don't worry, enjoy.

Have to agree about cars when I bought my car several years ago,it was advertised that I would get a average 43 miles per gallon.But myself have never achieved the stated MPG,why many driving variables like traffic,foot on gas pedal plus many others,did I take my car back to dealer short answer no.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by Smobews

gotcha. so the precision should be +/- 2 spd according to Rolex, and in OP's case, his accuracy is off by 8 seconds.

We know very little about the accuracy of OP's watch. He wrote:

"126710blro daily since I purchased it in February 2019. Recently noticed it losing around 8 seconds every 24 hours."

For further discussion one would need to know the 5-position average rate 'X', measured correctly with a timegrapher: amplitudes and rates after full winding and 24 hours later. That's probably not going to happen

[sgt10p]

My new watch looses 1 second a day. Incredible! If, over the years that precision drifts to 8 seconds I would think that it may need servicing as it's not running as it once did and may need oil or whatever is done during a service to prevent wear and this needs replacing of parts with the additional cost that may bring. Just as any mechanical system may show signs of wear over time.

On your marks, get set, let rip!


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[subcsteve]

Mine went to -3/4, then -8-10 and then 8 mins!

Regardless Rolex make accuracy claims in all their literature and any product asking significant money for it should deliver imo, otherwise drop the -2+2 claims.

In your case I would watch it carefully and as soon as the steady -8 becomes erratic I would take it in.

[JoseR]

Originally Posted by JMGoodnight369

Why can’t there ever be a civilized discussion on the subject of 32xx movements? It’s like listening to people argue about the moon landing……

Dude, just do a search on the 32XX movement and you'll have hours of reading.

Opening a can of worms.

[saxo3]

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[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by arodriguezt

Hello all,

Been wearing my 126710blro daily since I purchased it in February 2019. Recently noticed it losing around 8 seconds every 24 hours.

Is this normal? Should I take it to the AD?

It doesn't bother me at all, what can bother me its the fact the movement can be damaged/damaging itself and getting worse over time….

Thanks

Mine was also purchased in the summer of 2019, my BLRO is also about 8 to 12 seconds slow a day. It was I really really excellent in time keeping at the beginning. This started happening about a year ago

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[East of Eden]

Originally Posted by JacksonRain

Mine was also purchased in the summer of 2019, my BLRO is also about 8 to 12 seconds slow a day. It was I really really excellent in time keeping at the beginning. This started happening about a year ago

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Which is why those telling us how great theirs are after only a year or two means nothing

[JacksonRain]

Originally Posted by East of Eden

Which is why those telling us how great theirs are after only a year or two means nothing

Exactly

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[Tom Arai]

You’re joking like the other man?

[fsprow]

Originally Posted by saxo3

The 3285 Rolex specification:
"Precision -2/+2 sec/day, after casing"
Think about it!

Suggest looking up the difference between precision and accuracy. A watch running between -8 and -4 seconds per day meets this test.

[saxo3]

Originally Posted by fsprow

Suggest looking up the difference between precision and accuracy.

[SearChart]

Originally Posted by fsprow

Suggest looking up the difference between precision and accuracy. A watch running between -8 and -4 seconds per day meets this test.

No it doesn't.

[fsprow]

Originally Posted by SearChart

No it doesn't.

Perhaps not in watchmakers terms, but in mathematical terms precision means variability around a mean. In the case I used -8/-4 seconds per day would reflect a mean of -6 and indicate a precision of plus or minus 2. Quite different than accuracy where the reference point is not an average, but rather a fixed point as for example, an accurate clock. I’m not sure what Rolex means, perhaps accuracy not precision.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by wgdaytona

Well said Padi. My watch would have to lose a couple minutes a day, and that might still take a week for me to notice! lol. Oh, and think of car manufacturers and horsepower ratings... claimed vs. Dyno... and don't get me started on gas mileage! Don't worry, enjoy.

With regard to fuel ecoonomy.
I routinely get a good deal better than the official figures which are established over testing across a fixed sequence of operation.
It's not like i don't have my bit of fun but i have to be careful as the police are everywhere and better than ever at stealthy tactics with unmarked cars of all descriptions and radar tech.

Keep in mind that dyno figures are always rubbery.
One could indulge in a number of pulls on the dyno and get an interestingly wide range of numbers.
Personally i go by a one and done number as it reflects the real world experience, where as the numbers become more fuzzy once geat soak gets into everything