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Changmaisausage · 20 August 2009, 02:54 PM

Last night I was offered a Sea Dweller for 2,545gbp no box or papers. It's in a shop that I have bought several watches from in Qatar. I did not get the serial number so I'm not sure of the age but it's in excellent condition looks to be a couple of years old.

Worth buying or not?

Cheers
Dave

Starwalker · 20 August 2009, 03:08 PM

No, it could be stolen and then you would never see it again when u send to a RSC for servicing if the serial is flagged, thats still 5,000$

MortgageGuy · 20 August 2009, 03:08 PM

I am not certain of the currency exchange but since the watch is discontinued and if you like it, why not get one??? I would hold out for one with a box/papers however... just my 2 cents.

Changmaisausage · 20 August 2009, 04:15 PM

The problem out here in the Gulf most of the second hand watches do not have a box or papers. Sad I know but most of the poeple selling their watches to the dealers have no interest in a box so they throw it away, I dont know maybe it's an arabic thing.

Changmaisausage · 20 August 2009, 04:29 PM

Is there a way that I can check to see if a watch is on the stolen list??

padi56 · 20 August 2009, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Changmaisausage

Last night I was offered a Sea Dweller for 2,545gbp no box or papers. It's in a shop that I have bought several watches from in Qatar. I did not get the serial number so I'm not sure of the age but it's in excellent condition looks to be a couple of years old.

Worth buying or not?

Cheers
Dave

Well first if you have bought several watches from him in the past then I would say you have a reliable source.If its a non lug hole case its post 2002/3 if lug hole pre 2002/3. And the only change to the SD since 1988/9 is the non lug case and few minor font details.Box papers are not all that important as when you have watch serviced by RSC. You will get service papers that are almost as good if you ever what to sell it,box if you want one can be easily bought.I would always haggle on the price no matter what was asked by anyone.

Tony-GB · 20 August 2009, 08:26 PM

Get the serial number & call the Rolex Lost or Stolen Register. I've only got the UK number though, I'm afraid:

01322 625 400

They will take your telephone number & call you back.

If it's a new(ish) watch it should be easy to get a box. But haggle on the price taking into account a Rolex service is a minimum of £250

Hope that helps

Changmaisausage · 20 August 2009, 08:48 PM

Cheers guys I left it with him last night but refused to pay the 16,000QAR I said that I would pay 15,000 today but no more. I'll leave it over the weekend (as done previously) he normally rings me after a couple of days with the price I want.

Ed Rooney · 20 August 2009, 09:14 PM

Not a particularly great deal. I paid quite a bit less for mine, LNIB with open papers, Z-serial, stickers still on the case. But I guess they have gone up in 18 months.

I've walked by a 1997 SD every day this week in a shop near Liverpool St in London. I think it's about the same price, which is a starting point.

Jason71 · 20 August 2009, 09:15 PM

If it is a Z or an M serial then that is a decent price. Personally, I don't get hung-up on Box/papers. The watch could still be a stolen piece even if it has the box/papers, and once I buy a Rolex...........it is staying with me and not EVER getting sold.

WatchSnob · 20 August 2009, 10:11 PM

That is no great deal. Hold out, unless import taxes are absurd you should not buy there. If you travel out of the country often you can work a deal here and do a FTF somewhere you travel often and avoid the taxes by wearing it home. When customs asks why you have the box, you are anal and have a bit of OCD. You do not understand how people can just leave their watch laying around overnight.

DBS91274 · 22 August 2009, 09:59 PM

I purchased a watch years ago in Texas privately and when I called Rolex to run the serial number by them to see if it was stolen they explained to me over the phone they could not provide me with that information and only can run the serial numbers when it is physically at the RSC. This way you never get it back and are SOL.
I just had a watch stolen from the RSC in NY. Check out my thread.
They told me it will eventually turn up but who knows. Try searching on the internet by Googling the serial number.

smoothmouse · 23 August 2009, 05:41 PM

How did you get on with your dealings? It's now after the weekend here in Doha and was wondering what you decided after all...........

20 August 2009, 02:54 PM	#1
Changmaisausage "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: David Location: UK/Qatar Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 470	Would you?? Sea Dweller Last night I was offered a Sea Dweller for 2,545gbp no box or papers. It's in a shop that I have bought several watches from in Qatar. I did not get the serial number so I'm not sure of the age but it's in excellent condition looks to be a couple of years old. Worth buying or not? Cheers Dave __________________ Patek Phillipe / Rolex / Tudor

20 August 2009, 03:08 PM	#2
Starwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: aroundtheworld Watch: SS Daytona - BLACK Posts: 2,262	No, it could be stolen and then you would never see it again when u send to a RSC for servicing if the serial is flagged, thats still 5,000$ __________________ 116520 Black - 116500 White - 116713LN - 116613LB - Panerai 389 - Chopard Mille Miglia GMT Chronograph - Chopard LUC Sport 2000 - Moser Pioneer Centre Seconds

20 August 2009, 03:08 PM	#3
MortgageGuy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Adam Location: Orlando, Florida Watch: Me Posts: 9,935	I am not certain of the currency exchange but since the watch is discontinued and if you like it, why not get one??? I would hold out for one with a box/papers however... just my 2 cents. __________________ The richest people in the world look for and build NETWORKS, Everyone else looks for work... Robert Kiyosaki

20 August 2009, 04:15 PM	#4
Changmaisausage "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: David Location: UK/Qatar Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 470	The problem out here in the Gulf most of the second hand watches do not have a box or papers. Sad I know but most of the poeple selling their watches to the dealers have no interest in a box so they throw it away, I dont know maybe it's an arabic thing. __________________ Patek Phillipe / Rolex / Tudor

20 August 2009, 04:29 PM	#5
Changmaisausage "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: David Location: UK/Qatar Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 470	Is there a way that I can check to see if a watch is on the stolen list?? __________________ Patek Phillipe / Rolex / Tudor

20 August 2009, 08:26 PM	#7
Tony-GB "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Tony Location: Oxfordshire, UK Watch: 116680 & 116622 Posts: 3,953	Get the serial number & call the Rolex Lost or Stolen Register. I've only got the UK number though, I'm afraid: 01322 625 400 They will take your telephone number & call you back. If it's a new(ish) watch it should be easy to get a box. But haggle on the price taking into account a Rolex service is a minimum of £250 Hope that helps __________________ "...why oh why, didn't I take the blue pill...?" http://www.helenanddouglas.org.uk/ www.cheetah.org

20 August 2009, 08:48 PM	#8
Changmaisausage "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: David Location: UK/Qatar Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 470	Cheers guys I left it with him last night but refused to pay the 16,000QAR I said that I would pay 15,000 today but no more. I'll leave it over the weekend (as done previously) he normally rings me after a couple of days with the price I want. __________________ Patek Phillipe / Rolex / Tudor

20 August 2009, 09:14 PM	#9
Ed Rooney "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Annapolis, MD Watch: Sea-Dweller 16600 Posts: 5,081	Not a particularly great deal. I paid quite a bit less for mine, LNIB with open papers, Z-serial, stickers still on the case. But I guess they have gone up in 18 months. I've walked by a 1997 SD every day this week in a shop near Liverpool St in London. I think it's about the same price, which is a starting point.

20 August 2009, 09:15 PM	#10
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	If it is a Z or an M serial then that is a decent price. Personally, I don't get hung-up on Box/papers. The watch could still be a stolen piece even if it has the box/papers, and once I buy a Rolex...........it is staying with me and not EVER getting sold. __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

20 August 2009, 10:11 PM	#11
WatchSnob Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: US Posts: 460	That is no great deal. Hold out, unless import taxes are absurd you should not buy there. If you travel out of the country often you can work a deal here and do a FTF somewhere you travel often and avoid the taxes by wearing it home. When customs asks why you have the box, you are anal and have a bit of OCD. You do not understand how people can just leave their watch laying around overnight.

22 August 2009, 09:59 PM	#12
DBS91274 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dave S. Location: The NY/NJ area Watch: 1991 GMT Posts: 31	I purchased a watch years ago in Texas privately and when I called Rolex to run the serial number by them to see if it was stolen they explained to me over the phone they could not provide me with that information and only can run the serial numbers when it is physically at the RSC. This way you never get it back and are SOL. I just had a watch stolen from the RSC in NY. Check out my thread. They told me it will eventually turn up but who knows. Try searching on the internet by Googling the serial number.

23 August 2009, 05:41 PM	#13
smoothmouse Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Middle East Watch: GMTIIc Posts: 18	How did you get on with your dealings? It's now after the weekend here in Doha and was wondering what you decided after all...........

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