Which would be a daily watch? Nautilus vs Overseas

[danwang0520]

Dear TRF,

Let's suppose PP will eventually release a stainless steel 3-hander 5811, 5811/1A, that is...and pit it against Vacheron Constantin Overseas 3-hander (latest reference is 4520V). By the way, I'm not a fan of Royal Oak so I left this out of the question.

Which one would you wear as an everyday watch? Do you prefer a 3-hander stainless-steel Nautilus or Overseas??



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[EUguy]

Nautilus everyday and twice on Sunday!

Obviously that is purely a matter of personal taste but the thin Nautilus design signs to me way more than the 2.5 mm thicker Overseas design, and the same goes for hte 'interrupted' bezel.

The only - but quite important - thing that really speaks for the Overseas is that it is way more under the radar than the Nautilus that everybody recognizes...

[INC]

Nautilus

[1William]

PP for me.

[StylinProfilin]

5811 all day everyday

[agsstructures]

Nautilus

[Calatrava r]

Clearly, the PP is the better piece to own for a multitude of reasons. But the VC as a daily with its three strap options is hard to beat.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by EUguy

Nautilus everyday and twice on Sunday!

Obviously that is purely a matter of personal taste but the thin Nautilus design signs to me way more than the 2.5 mm thicker Overseas design, and the same goes for hte 'interrupted' bezel.

The only - but quite important - thing that really speaks for the Overseas is that it is way more under the radar than the Nautilus that everybody recognizes...

That about covers it

[AperolSpritz]

The question is which one is better as DAILY.

IMHO, the Overseas is the better choice.
But that doesn't mean I prefer the Overseas to the Nautilus.
More robust. Less prone to scratches. And the 3 straps give it more versatility.

But I would also add that you need to go for a 3 hander, the Overseas can get too thick...

[vitalsigns]

Not accounting for price, the Nautilus. It's far more elegant and comfortable than the Overseas, and a much more timeless design.

The Overseas, as a category, doesn't age well, in part because they are overdesigned (e.g., look at the first generation), and the Gen II is the best to my eyes, yet the Gen II misses a nice in-house movement with a sapphire caseback.

Accounting for price, I think the Overseas Gen II is a decent deal, all things considered. And I'd never pay at or near 6-figures for a stainless steel Nautilus.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by vitalsigns

Not accounting for price, the Nautilus. It's far more elegant and comfortable than the Overseas, and a much more timeless design.

The Overseas, as a category, doesn't age well, in part because they are overdesigned (e.g., look at the first generation), and the Gen II is the best to my eyes, yet the Gen II misses a nice in-house movement with a sapphire caseback.

This pretty much sums it up.

[mickyd329]

Nautilus without a doubt in my mind. It's not even close for me. There is just something not right about the proportions of the OS. It doesn't sit well on the wrist. It definitely has great versatility with the strap/bracelet options, but the bracelet is underwhelming to me. For those reasons, I sold my 7900 a couple of years ago and never really looked back.

[pav333hp]

As with majority of comments above, Nautilus is a definitely a strong winner here. It's more beautiful overall, incredibly comfortable to wear and enjoy, classic and timeless design, and just feels perfect on the wrist.

I think the only notable advantage that Overseas has is the interchangeable bracelet / leather / rubber strap option. But Nautilus bracelet is so comfortable and beautiful that I don't care for leather or rubber straps.

[llngoc]

You posted in a Patek forum and asked if someone prefer a Patek over a VC

IMHO, the Overseas is more versatile as you can go from bracelet to rubber to leather so you can even wear it as three watches within a day. The Nautilius is more refined and comfortable. And if you have a slimmer wrist, 5711/5811 will likely be a better choice.

I have both the 5711/1a and the 4500V, the VC gets more wear because it is less conspicuous and I do enjoy it with the rubber strap. (Wife took the 5167a)

[Schweinwerfer]

Originally Posted by vitalsigns

Not accounting for price, the Nautilus. It's far more elegant and comfortable than the Overseas, and a much more timeless design.

The Overseas, as a category, doesn't age well, in part because they are overdesigned (e.g., look at the first generation), and the Gen II is the best to my eyes, yet the Gen II misses a nice in-house movement with a sapphire caseback.

Accounting for price, I think the Overseas Gen II is a decent deal, all things considered. And I'd never pay at or near 6-figures for a stainless steel Nautilus.

What's the problem with the first gen?
It's still the thinnest one so automatically the most similar to nautilus and royal oak..the newer ones are thicker and less elegant

[ATO]

I voted for the overseas as they provide the quick change with 3 different looks.

[vitalsigns]

Originally Posted by Schweinwerfer

What's the problem with the first gen?
It's still the thinnest one so automatically the most similar to nautilus and royal oak..the newer ones are thicker and less elegant

There's no problem, per se, but I think it's styling has not aged well at all. Aesthetics are mostly subjective, of course.

[FrançoisCzapek]

How does the VC Overseas Perpetual wear compared to the Patek 5740?

[Bmats]

If I had both, I’d use a SS overseas more as a daily—either silver or blue dial. Easy strap changes, high build quality, and a bit more under the radar.

If I could only have one, I would have the 5712/1a.

EDIT: Didn’t realize I was replying to an old thread that someone revived.

[kaiserphoenix]

Vacheron all day.

Im not saying the OS is superior or anything. The Nautilus is THE Nautilus, I happen to own both.

The Patek is the one for the collection, it feels more special, it is more special, it is the one that will always be in demand and hold its value.

The VC OS is the ultimate daily luxury sport watch today in 2024. There is no alternative if you really look into it. It is the only trinity sport watch that is water resistant, versatile with strap changes, anti-magnetic, and a unique blue dial. ALSO it does not trade at a crazy premium, allowing you to enjoy it more light heartedly, instead of say a Nautilus where ur constantly worried about being mugged etc and heaven forbid if you are, impossible to replace the nautilus again, at least at MSRP, whereas the OS is replaceable with a small effort.

[FrançoisCzapek]

I don't understand how a steel sports watch is not a daily wear watch. Is it supposed to be a weekend only, dress down only kind of watch? It's certainly not a formal only watch.

[Gr2]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Vacheron all day.

Im not saying the OS is superior or anything. The Nautilus is THE Nautilus, I happen to own both.

The Patek is the one for the collection, it feels more special, it is more special, it is the one that will always be in demand and hold its value.

The VC OS is the ultimate daily luxury sport watch today in 2024. There is no alternative if you really look into it. It is the only trinity sport watch that is water resistant, versatile with strap changes, anti-magnetic, and a unique blue dial. ALSO it does not trade at a crazy premium, allowing you to enjoy it more light heartedly, instead of say a Nautilus where ur constantly worried about being mugged etc and heaven forbid if you are, impossible to replace the nautilus again, at least at MSRP, whereas the OS is replaceable with a small effort.

I have both too (although VC 7900v) and this is 100% my experience. VC is a more robust and versatile daily. My 5711 feels significantly more fragile. I used to daily the nautilus but ever since I got the VC (and the 5711 became quasi irreplaceable), I’ve found myself gravitating towards that. I like it so much that I’ve been tempted to add another model variant. In my opinion, the VC is the best high end sports watch available right now….

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by Gr2

I have both too (although VC 7900v) and this is 100% my experience. VC is a more robust and versatile daily. My 5711 feels significantly more fragile. I used to daily the nautilus but ever since I got the VC (and the 5711 became quasi irreplaceable), I’ve found myself gravitating towards that. I like it so much that I’ve been tempted to add another model variant. In my opinion, the VC is the best high end sports watch available right now….

100% and i see we are both in London, I think the under the radar aspect is something I truly appreciate as well. Superb watch the OS, really wearing it almost everyday these days.

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by FrançoisCzapek

I don't understand how a steel sports watch is not a daily wear watch. Is it supposed to be a weekend only, dress down only kind of watch? It's certainly not a formal only watch.

Something like a 5711, or say a 16202, for me these are not daily watches. Why?

1) Robustness: They are both finished very intricately and does not hide wear or scratches very well. Neither are greatly water resistant or anti-magnetic or shock resistant.
2) Versatility: Neither watch allows the wearer to change straps for example depending on the situation. Neither has any form of micro adjust. (the 5811 does).
3) Value: Both probably trade at double MSRP, and impossible to replace if you lose the watch, let alone the opportunity cost of now losing not only the watch but the increase in value is devastating.

The OS sacrifices investment/collectibility premium to overcome the above 3 points to make it the best luxury sport watch currently in 2024 (IF you are looking for a daily).

[Audevache]

I don’t own a Nautilus, but an Overseas v7900 and an AP 16202 Jumbo.

The VC is truly a daily driver. Quite robust movement, quick change system so you can go on a rubber strap for more casual situations, and really solid 150m water resistance.

The Jumbo is much more of an amazingly beautiful dress watch to me, it just doesn’t feel as robust and GADA as the VC (plus it is a scratch magnet) and I’d assume a 5711 is much closer to the AP than to the VC in this territory.