Looking for a little help…..lugs too polished? Dial check?

[rmlovett1]

Just looking for some feedback on this. I’m waiting on better pictures, but I thought I’d post these before I even move forward with more pictures.
Any help is always appreciated!







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[77T]

Surely it's been hit with the wheel pretty hard on the 5 o'clock lug to pucker the hole. The other one doesn't have that treatment. You'd need every lug photo'd.

The dial is pristine - it appears to be a service replacement as well as the hands.


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[Dan S]

Polished, yes. "Too polished?" That's your decision. Depends on the price and what kind of watch you're looking for. There's a buyer for almost every watch at the right price.

[KY..]

What’s the first 2 or 3 numbers of the serial as the bezel looks similar to a mk1?
Should verify the parts & movement are correct for the serial.
Yes it has well polished case/bracelet and has a service crystal.
Dial looks pretty nice; is there a UV shot?
Not so sure about the pushers as they look a bit odd for some reason to me.
If possible post clear photos of the movement.
Good luck…

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by 77T

Surely it's been hit with the wheel pretty hard on the 5 o'clock lug to pucker the hole. The other one doesn't have that treatment. You'd need every lug photo'd.

The dial is pristine - it appears to be a service replacement as well as the hands.


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Originally Posted by Dan S

Polished, yes. "Too polished?" That's your decision. Depends on the price and what kind of watch you're looking for.

Originally Posted by KY..

What’s the first 2 or 3 numbers of the serial as the bezel looks similar to a mk1?
Should verify the parts & movement are correct for the serial.
Yes it has well polished case/bracelet and has a service crystal.
Dial looks pretty nice; is there a UV shot?
Not so sure about the pushers as they look a bit odd for some reason to me.
If possible post clear photos of the movement.
Good luck…

Thank you guys. I’ve asked the questions. Just waiting now.

[swish77]

Originally Posted by 77T

The dial is pristine - it appears to be a service replacement as well as the hands.
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The dial is definitely not a service replacement, nor the hands, I suspect. (The “A” of “Daytona” printed past the first marker of the sub-dial is your clue. On the service dials, the “A” appears before that first marker and the whole word “Daytona” is smaller).

Note the wear/aging on the bezel, with those milky streaks/bubbles. That ain’t great, and replacing it would be crazy expensive.

I actually think the case looks decent. The spacing of the lug hole to the edge is quite good. I think it was just poorly polished when it was done, leading to that lug-hole cratering. An expert vintage polish could sharpen up that case, and it’s already been polished, so why not.

What’s the beginning of the serial number? Nice-looking 6263.

[77T]

Originally Posted by swish77

The dial is definitely not a service replacement, nor the hands, I suspect. (The “A” of “Daytona” printed past the first marker of the sub-dial is your clue. On the service dials, the “A” appears before that first marker and the whole word “Daytona” is smaller).

Thanks for weighing in about the big red dial, it spurred me to look further. I see your point.

I had also noticed one other element but didn't mention it. I noted the heavy paint on the red imprint but was unsure. By looking further it quelled that concern. The original dials did have a heavy imprint.

Found this photo for the benefit of sharing.



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[swish77]

Originally Posted by 77T

Thanks for weighing in about the big red dial, it spurred me to look further. I see your point.

I had also noticed one other element but didn't mention it. I noted the heavy paint on the red imprint but was unsure. By looking further it quelled that concern. The original dials did have a heavy imprint.

Yes, heavy indeed, and that’s part of what makes them so cool. The red really pops, unlike the service dials and more modern Daytonas.

The OP’s watch looks similar to mine, although more of a sunburst silver finish on the dial. Mine was from a late-’70s batch that is more cream and less sunburst silver.

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by swish77

The dial is definitely not a service replacement, nor the hands, I suspect. (The “A” of “Daytona” printed past the first marker of the sub-dial is your clue. On the service dials, the “A” appears before that first marker and the whole word “Daytona” is smaller).

Note the wear/aging on the bezel, with those milky streaks/bubbles. That ain’t great, and replacing it would be crazy expensive.

I actually think the case looks decent. The spacing of the lug hole to the edge is quite good. I think it was just poorly polished when it was done, leading to that lug-hole cratering. An expert vintage polish could sharpen up that case, and it’s already been polished, so why not.

What’s the beginning of the serial number? Nice-looking 6263.

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[swish77]

Looks nice. Dial and hands are squeaky clean, which is the most important thing, of course. Other issues mentioned above (case and bezel) are simply because it’s an old watch, so it’s about your tolerance level. I’d ask for a UV photo of the dial/hands and a photo of the movement. And check the date stamp on the bracelet clasp. Always nice when that matches too. It’s about a year older than my 6263, which is a 605xxxx serial.

Pushers look original and it’s got a service crystal. If you buy it, you’d probably want to put a domed crystal back on there. Greatly improves the look, IMHO.

Also, make sure you see the reference number too, not just the serial. Switching bezels is easy on these, so turning a 6265 into a 6263 is only a bezel away, but there’s quite a difference in price. Not an issue, presumably, with a reputable dealer, but always good to confirm the reference.

Good luck.

[0nly5iv3Digits]

Lovely dial. Polished ofc... old piece, this.

[TuRo]

Looks ok to me, nicks on bezel notwithstanding.

There are at least 8 dial types subtly different (large/small eye, floating, Sigma B red..etc etc ..which I won't go into here), and two distinct types of original or a.k.a. 'big red' DAYTONA print.

Broadly a thinner neater font in a more darker red and a thicker lighter blotchy brighter red - this is the latter.

The case of the 37.5mm watches from the 6263/65 predecessor 6240 (the first OYSTER but - fun fact- dial v often not printed thus), right through to the final watch grew in size.

While there was a creeping increase, I believe the biggest increase in case and lug size was around the time of 75/76.

The reason for this I am told by a snr employee was that the thin final link 7205 and more commonly 7835 folded link suited the thinner lug width.

Come 75/76 the 78350 was introduced and the last link (before the EL) is well over 30% thicker than a 7835 link, so the bracelet would have looked a bit undersized. Hence more metal being left on the mid-case. The ever-increasing continued after 75/76 too btw.

Last points on the actual piece suggest you check the 727 and caseback and end links are correct (the correct end links are c £1000 ).

[swish77]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Last points on the actual piece suggest you check the 727 and caseback and end links are correct (the correct end links are c £1000 ).

Cost me $130 installed at the NYC RSC for a new pair of 571 end links for my 6263, albeit several years ago. They also sold me a correct Rolex leather strap with curved ends that was an option for the 6263.

[TuRo]

Originally Posted by swish77

Cost me $130 installed at the NYC RSC for a new pair of 571 end links for my 6263, albeit several years ago. They also sold me a correct Rolex leather strap with curved ends that was an option for the 6263.

Indeed. But are they like 580's, which you can also still buy at an AD, but are are different stamp profile than original 580's ?

[swish77]

Originally Posted by TuRo

Indeed. But are they like 580's, which you can also still buy at an AD, but are are different stamp profile than original 580's ?

The stamping on my 571 end links look identical to the old ones, which I kept. However, I didn’t put them under a microscope, so perhaps there is some super minor difference.

Still, they’re both correct Rolex parts and I certainly wouldn’t spend crazy money just to get an old set. That’s where I’d draw the line obsessing over originality for a vintage Rolex.

[rmlovett1]

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