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rolexjackson · 16 February 2025, 03:02 PM

Not my watch but was at my AD today and a customer brought this in. He said that he only opened the crown guard and it broke in half.

Wow! Is all I can say!

Life is short buy the watch.

Zyfon · 16 February 2025, 03:41 PM

How did it even happened? I thought the case was one solid piece.

RW16610 · 16 February 2025, 04:58 PM

Oh man, also curious how something like that could've happened. Hopefully they'll have it back to him good as new soon.

In his shoes, however, it would be difficult for me to really appreciate the watch after opening the crown guard and having this happen.

rajurama · 16 February 2025, 06:13 PM

BMG is as brittle as ceramic and probably a flop material for watches specially tool watches. BMG failures is well documented and will be covered under warranty. I would probably avoid BMG material from any manufacturer.

77T · 16 February 2025, 07:30 PM

BMG is relatively new and those who have had problems point out they are catastrophic ones.

Watchuseek photo from 6 yrs. ago

Lug explosion.

The report rate of these do depend largely on when/where they happen. If you are in the water, it could mean the complete loss of the watch. Those might get chalked up to a different cause.

Composition analysis would be worth a look. But who wants to have a watch that could suffer this fate for no good reason?

What I mean is the material doesn't solve any problems we have in watch cases. 904, titanium and/or gold/Pt. makes more sense.

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waterman1 · 16 February 2025, 08:28 PM

Wow. I’ve heard BMG is brittle and can crack. Perhaps the watch had been dropped or bumped already and all it took was a slight torque opening the crown guard to fall apart entirely.
I worry about carbotech although that seems to be holding up well.

brandrea · 16 February 2025, 10:05 PM

Yikes … I think I’ll stick with SS

travisb · 17 February 2025, 12:20 AM

Wow! First I've seen like that.

rolexjackson · 17 February 2025, 03:16 PM

I guess that something happened like a bump or a drop. But all I can say is WOW

1William · 18 February 2025, 12:00 AM

Much to be learned on this one. The biggest one for me is don't buy something like this.

56Diver · 19 February 2025, 03:25 AM

Thought about buying panerai BMG many times but I never will

duc888 · 21 February 2025, 04:11 AM

No risk no fun...therefore i wear a ceramic Pam

Cru Jones · 21 February 2025, 09:15 AM

I’d be interested to know more about what happened.

rajurama · 22 February 2025, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duc888

No risk no fun...therefore i wear a ceramic Pam

Lol me too and can add carbotech !

inadeje · 22 February 2025, 11:55 AM

All of these marketing hyped strange materials are more a gimmick than utilitarian.

They solve a problem nobody really had.

Mystro · 25 February 2025, 06:04 AM

Carbotech solves weight and brittle issue all while being rather tough to scratch. It’s also why Carbotech is the material Panerai continues to use for their high-end pieces. There’s no downside to this material from my personal experience so far and as good as it gets for a black luxury watch material as it doesn’t seem to age or change color with time or sun exposure. Just had a routine service done on my Carbotech and no polishing required.

opawlows · 26 February 2025, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystro

Carbotech solves weight and brittle issue all while being rather tough to scratch. It’s also why Carbotech is the material Panerai continues to use for their high-end pieces. There’s no downside to this material from my personal experience so far and as good as it gets for a black luxury watch material as it doesn’t seem to age or change color with time or sun exposure. Just had a routine service done on my Carbotech and no polishing required.

Been looking at the 661 more these days, nice to hear some first hand experience on how it has held up.

Mystro · 26 February 2025, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by opawlows

Been looking at the 661 more these days, nice to hear some first hand experience on how it has held up.

I have years of use with mine and it’s used hard and often. Highly recommend it

rajurama · 26 February 2025, 05:33 PM

There's so many carbon fibre watches and worst is forged carbon fibres like AP uses which end up like a dog chewed it up after years,

However the technology in carbotech is state of the art and I think even RM uses similar peek tech.

I love my 1661

56Diver · 27 February 2025, 02:26 AM

I think the carbotech is cool but for me titanium seems to give the best combo of weight, corrosion resistance, and durability. You just don’t see Ti watches with dents in them or lugs cracking off, at least I haven’t heard of it. We all like what we like, there is no right answer.

Ciumaca · Yesterday, 02:50 AM

thanks for sharing, special materials make me anxious, I prefer "the good old" steel or gold...

16 February 2025, 03:02 PM	#1
rolexjackson 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Real Name: Jackson Location: USA Watch: Sub, GMT, Daytona Posts: 2,788	Broken BMG Panerai Not my watch but was at my AD today and a customer brought this in. He said that he only opened the crown guard and it broke in half. Wow! Is all I can say! Life is short buy the watch.

16 February 2025, 06:13 PM	#4
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,140	BMG is as brittle as ceramic and probably a flop material for watches specially tool watches. BMG failures is well documented and will be covered under warranty. I would probably avoid BMG material from any manufacturer. __________________ रोलेक्स

16 February 2025, 07:30 PM	#5
77T 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 42,681	Broken BMG Panerai BMG is relatively new and those who have had problems point out they are catastrophic ones. Watchuseek photo from 6 yrs. ago Lug explosion. The report rate of these do depend largely on when/where they happen. If you are in the water, it could mean the complete loss of the watch. Those might get chalked up to a different cause. Composition analysis would be worth a look. But who wants to have a watch that could suffer this fate for no good reason? What I mean is the material doesn't solve any problems we have in watch cases. 904, titanium and/or gold/Pt. makes more sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

22 February 2025, 11:55 AM	#15
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25 February 2025, 06:04 AM	#16
Mystro 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,922	Carbotech solves weight and brittle issue all while being rather tough to scratch. It’s also why Carbotech is the material Panerai continues to use for their high-end pieces. There’s no downside to this material from my personal experience so far and as good as it gets for a black luxury watch material as it doesn’t seem to age or change color with time or sun exposure. Just had a routine service done on my Carbotech and no polishing required. __________________

16 February 2025, 03:41 PM	#2
Zyfon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Thailand Watch: Rolex & Panerai Posts: 448	How did it even happened? I thought the case was one solid piece.

16 February 2025, 04:58 PM	#3
RW16610 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 9,305	Oh man, also curious how something like that could've happened. Hopefully they'll have it back to him good as new soon. In his shoes, however, it would be difficult for me to really appreciate the watch after opening the crown guard and having this happen.

16 February 2025, 08:28 PM	#6
waterman1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: USA Posts: 932	Wow. I’ve heard BMG is brittle and can crack. Perhaps the watch had been dropped or bumped already and all it took was a slight torque opening the crown guard to fall apart entirely. I worry about carbotech although that seems to be holding up well.

16 February 2025, 10:05 PM	#7
brandrea 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 80,005	Yikes … I think I’ll stick with SS

17 February 2025, 12:20 AM	#8
travisb 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 33,950	Wow! First I've seen like that.

17 February 2025, 03:16 PM	#9
rolexjackson 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Real Name: Jackson Location: USA Watch: Sub, GMT, Daytona Posts: 2,788	I guess that something happened like a bump or a drop. But all I can say is WOW

18 February 2025, 12:00 AM	#10
1William 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 48,955	Much to be learned on this one. The biggest one for me is don't buy something like this.

19 February 2025, 03:25 AM	#11
56Diver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 134	Thought about buying panerai BMG many times but I never will

21 February 2025, 04:11 AM	#12
duc888 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 880	No risk no fun...therefore i wear a ceramic Pam

21 February 2025, 09:15 AM	#13
Cru Jones 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: CET Posts: 35,761	I’d be interested to know more about what happened.

26 February 2025, 05:33 PM	#19
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,140	There's so many carbon fibre watches and worst is forged carbon fibres like AP uses which end up like a dog chewed it up after years, However the technology in carbotech is state of the art and I think even RM uses similar peek tech. I love my 1661 __________________ रोलेक्स

27 February 2025, 02:26 AM	#20
56Diver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 134	I think the carbotech is cool but for me titanium seems to give the best combo of weight, corrosion resistance, and durability. You just don’t see Ti watches with dents in them or lugs cracking off, at least I haven’t heard of it. We all like what we like, there is no right answer.

Yesterday, 02:50 AM	#21
Ciumaca "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2025 Location: Rome Posts: 10	thanks for sharing, special materials make me anxious, I prefer "the good old" steel or gold...

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