New ‘25 Models?!

[dmash]

I have to say, I’m absolutely thrilled as a Paneristi over almost 2 decades. I felt they were losing themselves so much, now they have knocked it out the park imo on the new 3312.

Thinner and lighter, more refined lugs, 500m WR, HACKING AGAIN, better lume, lost that atrocious blue seconds hand, click release for strap/buckle……this is like a PROPER 312 v2 everybody actually wanted from the beginning. Is anybody else pumped for some of these?

[Mastergreenhand]

Let’s have some pics

[duc888]

You can find them on the Panerai HP

[henrikjensen]

I am very happy for what they have done with the new 44mm Luminor. Now make this as a Quaranta, and I will buy one!

[alllexandru]

Yes, it actually looks you get more watch for 9k compared with previous generation
I like them

[shammad10]

Haha, you guys make me laugh.

They reintroduce the hacking seconds, water resistance, and open caseback that they got rid of in 2016 and suddenly these are novelties?!
What's new about them? All they did was try to undo the damage they've done over the last 10 years.

[brandrea]

Post pictures … we like pictures

[MickCollins1916]

A few quick screen grabs courtesy of PAM.

Thinner, more refined lugs, better WR, hacking, and the movement maintains 72h PR, with less component parts than prior iteration.

I am somewhat intrigued, mostly by the Ti model.

[Stupot]

Originally Posted by MickCollins1916

A few quick screen grabs courtesy of PAM.

Thinner, more refined lugs, better WR, hacking, and the movement maintains 72h PR, with less component parts than prior iteration.

I am somewhat intrigued, mostly by the Ti model.

How can I word this tactfully, they look fairly similar!

[Duke Nukem]

Originally Posted by shammad10

Haha, you guys make me laugh.

They reintroduce the hacking seconds, water resistance, and open caseback that they got rid of in 2016 and suddenly these are novelties?!
What's new about them? All they did was try to undo the damage they've done over the last 10 years.

They also stopped the movement finishing as well. Lots of cost cutting.

[Mystro]

Oh hell yea…….

The new Luminor is exactly the right direction for Panerai. 500m WR and a thinner case with a sapphire case back. This is the simplistic elegance I expected from a hard use dive watch from Panerai.

It’s a win win in technical and usability.. This is restoring the “Luminor” reputation with worthy and tangible upgrades for a dive watch. The msrp is even good.

https://www.ablogtowatch.com/hands-o...ated-for-2025/

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by shammad10

Haha, you guys make me laugh.

They reintroduce the hacking seconds, water resistance, and open caseback that they got rid of in 2016 and suddenly these are novelties?!
What's new about them? All they did was try to undo the damage they've done over the last 10 years.

Restored and improved significantly from movement to case so yes it is a big news. There is actually a lot of extra news in the details as well.

Seriously the only thing that would make this perfect would be the adoption of METAS certification. I need to see what the accuracy standards are for the new in-house movement. Panerai absolutely crushed the new Luminor in every way.

[Cru Jones]

A step in the right direction.

As for the clip-change straps, though, that means one needs to buy OEM straps to have the convenience of quick strap changes. The older button system in the lugs lets one change straps quickly regardless of the maker. But, I suppose the benefit is that less can go wrong.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

A step in the right direction.

As for the clip-change straps, though, that means one needs to buy OEM straps to have the convenience of quick strap changes. The older button system in the lugs lets one change straps quickly regardless of the maker. But, I suppose the benefit is that less can go wrong.

You can still use the older conventional straps as well with this system.
They have a double screw bar like Panerai have used for years for the lugs.. They probably still include a screwdriver. What is cool now is Panerai is making these new quick release straps called “PAM Click™”
for 44mm case models.

[rajurama]

Good direction but more to be desired in movements department.

I don't think P980 is a real in-house movement, it looks like the same generic Richmont's P900 ValFleurier made for most of their brands.

P9010 , P2003 etc were truly Panerai in-house movements.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by rajurama

Good direction but more to be desired in movements department.

I don't think P980 is a real in-house movement, it looks like the same generic Richmont's P900 ValFleurier made for most of their brands.

P9010 , P2003 etc were truly Panerai in-house movements.

Funny enough I just sent a PM to the Panerai concierge for some more details about the new movement regarding accuracy standards, etc….. I am digging deeper on its development and expectations within the Panerai line.

[MickCollins1916]

Originally Posted by Stupot

How can I word this tactfully, they look fairly similar!

Are you suggesting the two models I posted look similar to each other or similar to existing models…?

I’d concede either point, but I do think they offer more for the $ than their predecessor models. To each their own!

[Stupot]

Originally Posted by MickCollins1916

Are you suggesting the two models I posted look similar to each other or similar to existing models…?

I’d concede either point, but I do think they offer more for the $ than their predecessor models. To each their own!

They all look the same.

Absolutely classic design I may add.

I was just amused that these "new" releases look identical to my departed 312 from 20 years ago, and current 1313, so the general public have no chance making sense of that range.

Interesting that there are a lot of good subtle engineering changes, all sounds positive, just not sure Panerai do themselves any favours with new releases like that, they aren't going to create new desire with the masses, and those that already have one are likely nursing 50% losses, so justifying upgrading not easy.

That's a tricky business conundrum!

[dmash]

Originally Posted by shammad10

Haha, you guys make me laugh.

They reintroduce the hacking seconds, water resistance, and open caseback that they got rid of in 2016 and suddenly these are novelties?!
What's new about them? All they did was try to undo the damage they've done over the last 10 years.

You don’t get Panerai and that’s fine. Panerai was always supposed to be more basic and simplistic in design, this returns to that. And not some blue second hand either, a HUGE sore thumb to me. And ‘what’s new’? I literally wrote it in the first sentences, or did you choose to ignore it? Lol

This harkens back to that of adage of perhaps maybe best not to say anything if nothing good to say. But sure, continue laughing, I’ll laugh at your naivety regarding the brand

[dmash]

Originally Posted by Mystro

You can still use the older conventional straps as well with this system.
They have a double screw bar like Panerai have used for years for the lugs.. They probably still include a screwdriver. What is cool now is Panerai is making these new quick release straps called “PAM Click™”
for 44mm case models.

Keep us posted bud! I knew you’d get it, really hope they innovate more whilst remaining truer to their roots. Simultaneously maybe drop off a few models, and stop the LE nonsense, can we see a Panerai ca. 2000-2010 comeback?

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by dmash

Keep us posted bud! I knew you’d get it, really hope they innovate more whilst remaining truer to their roots. Simultaneously maybe drop off a few models, and stop the LE nonsense, can we see a Panerai ca. 2000-2010 comeback?

As much as I am a long time Paneristi, I am not a blind fan boy and have been screaming the last few years on their obvious deficiencies and direction. This one move alone restores a significant amount of faith that our core beloved Panerai brand is not too far lost and is circling back to the watches we love. Honestly this is probably the biggest news for me out of any brand from WW this year.

[MickCollins1916]

Originally Posted by Stupot

They all look the same.

Absolutely classic design I may add.

I was just amused that these "new" releases look identical to my departed 312 from 20 years ago, and current 1313, so the general public have no chance making sense of that range.

Interesting that there are a lot of good subtle engineering changes, all sounds positive, just not sure Panerai do themselves any favours with new releases like that, they aren't going to create new desire with the masses, and those that already have one are likely nursing 50% losses, so justifying upgrading not easy.

That's a tricky business conundrum!

For sure!

I can appreciate the new technical and case updates, and the absence of fauxtina, etc.

Is it enough to ditch my 915/1321 at a loss…? Nah. I’m still fond of them.

Rocking 915 today and I still love it:

[bonovox]

I called inquiring about the price of the astronomical clock (the Jupiterium) that was also released and was told $2million US dollars. I thought he was April fooling me, but he was not.

[opawlows]

I think this is a step in the right direction for Panerai for sure. Would have loved to see the light blue dial from the 3323 in the titanium case from the 3325 for an 082 kind of vibe!

[yachty 1]

I do appreciate the slimmer case but I hate to say this because I’ve been a fan boy for all these years, but I feel like they should of made them 43mm which in today’s standards are still huge.Also the 500mm water resistance is meaning less. As far as the movement it’s similar to the p900 in my eyes at first look. Also I love Panerai in titanium but green!!!

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by yachty 1

I do appreciate the slimmer case but I hate to say this because I’ve been a fan boy for all these years, but I feel like they should of made them 43mm which in today’s standards are still huge.Also the 500mm water resistance is meaning less. As far as the movement it’s similar to the p900 in my eyes at first look. Also I love Panerai in titanium but green!!!

That is to instill the utmost confidence with a sapphire case back on a dive watch. Omega does this as well with the PO. It’s a industry flex.

We will see if the Submersible gets this next year as well.

[yachty 1]

Originally Posted by Mystro

That is to instill the utmost confidence with a sapphire case back on a dive watch. Omega does this as well with the PO. It’s a industry flex.

We will see if the Submersible gets this next year as well.

I get it but that will not attract the newer customers.

[StanCho]

Originally Posted by MickCollins1916

For sure!

I can appreciate the new technical and case updates, and the absence of fauxtina, etc.

Is it enough to ditch my 915/1321 at a loss…? Nah. I’m still fond of them.

Rocking 915 today and I still love it:

The 914 and 915 are THE Luminors from current production if you ask me, and this photo is a great explanation why. Plus can be had at an approx 25/30% off less than 1 YR old against MSRP.

Universal size and fit, timeless design with all key Panerai DNA: manual wind, sandwich dial, minimal amount of text, no date anywhere to be seen and a 300m WR.

My 914 says hi!

[exp90]

Originally Posted by dmash

I have to say, I’m absolutely thrilled as a Paneristi over almost 2 decades. I felt they were losing themselves so much, now they have knocked it out the park imo on the new 3312.

Thinner and lighter, more refined lugs, 500m WR, HACKING AGAIN, better lume, lost that atrocious blue seconds hand, click release for strap/buckle……this is like a PROPER 312 v2 everybody actually wanted from the beginning. Is anybody else pumped for some of these?

Agree entirely with all the comments - in terms of new models, this is the first new PAM I've wanted to get. Very happy with the release of the 3321!

[Mastergreenhand]

I like the updated 312 and also the ti-version. I'd want to see in person. I don't mind my thick 212 at all. But the 312, I wished were thinner when I had one a while back. I am not a fan of the blue seconds hands, so glad to see those gone. Will see what the prices on the secondary market say in due time.