Tariff imposed and Watch Prices in the USA

[warrior]

I prefer the news sources you’ve cited in this thread…IMO they’re a helluva lot better than the news some follow here.

Originally Posted by JRell

Speaking of mistakes - these tariffs were calculated by a massive error.

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/06/tru...iffs-error-aei

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Dave O

Let's not kid ourselves. It's to protect your market. Very similar to how there are very few American cars in many areas of the world but in the US there is a major foreign car market. Why? Because those countries don't want US cars in their market.

I'm based in Singapore who believes in free market and we do not impose tariffs on cars from any country. Here, there are many German cars, Japanese cars, Korean cars and now BYD has become the best seller. Tesla js one of the best sellers in recent years due to the rise of EV. Overall, there were 43,022 new car registrations in 2024 and Tesla only represents 5.5% (there are hardly other American makes other than Tesla).

[Roger Lococco]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

I'm based in Singapore who believes in free market and we do not impose tariffs on cars from any country. Here, there are many German cars, Japanese cars, Korean cars and now BYD has become the best seller. Tesla js one of the best sellers in recent years due to the rise of EV. Overall, there were 43,022 new car registrations in 2024 and Tesla only represents 5.5% (there are hardly other American makes other than Tesla).

Not a lot of need for Ford 150s or other pickup trucks on the little red dot. I could see cruising around the island in a Corvette though.


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[Nads786]

Originally Posted by Dave O

The US has a $1.2 trillion dollar trade deficit. We are trying to real this in. You may not like the the chart/metrics being used, but the end game is to reduce the deficit and tariffs are the approach to get us there.

This won't happen overnight. It'll take time. The sky is not falling. So let's sit back and see how it shakes out.

There are way better ways to reduce the deficient than tariffs. SS and Medicare drive majority of our spending. Unfortunately the only way to fix is to spend less on entitlements or tax more.

[Slackergirl]

Originally Posted by fflump

How have the US been ripped off? Genuinely interested.

Well I guess as an American I was denied the ability to pay an extra tax on everything I buy & yes I am being sarcastic. An annoying time to be American for me

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by Roger Lococco

Not a lot of need for Ford 150s or other pickup trucks on the little red dot. I could see cruising around the island in a Corvette though.

SUV and sedans are popular here and Ford/Chevy do carry these models. And no, I don't see them here.

[steveclr]

Thanks to the mods for not locking this thread down. It's nice to hear differing opinions as long as nobody is being threatened.

[Lol-x]

Its a short transitional period.
The media like to blow up everything for the ratings.
Deals with foreign countries will be done but it wont happen overnight.
Rolex watches will go up in price, but remember they never go down! So its a win/win.
The AUD nose dived over the weekend and today against the USD....work that one out $USD$0.59=$AUD1.00.
So I wont be going to the USA at the moment. Hotels will cost me $500 a night
I guess I'll just have to watch the Yankees and Dodgers on YouTube highlights. Can't even afford an MLB membership!

[alllexandru]

You cannot alter free trade on your wishes and will.
This means you are not a free world anymore.
And go against entire world pushing them to buy your products just because you need / want.

This is not commercial sustainable long term, who tells you that a particular product made in one country IT IS AND MUST be bought because ...what ? Quality - price - availability - market requests - what if that product it is not good for my business but the one made in Europe or South America?
And there is another product very good a different one made in US which is good, thats fine, that one will be asked and trade but not the forced one - this is free trade

This means there is one great power which is trying to conquer all the rest by comercial force, looking at history no empire ended well but in pieces

Time will tell, it will be a hard take for everyone europeans, asians, americans, etc

[Jarett]

It's time for Rolex to open its factory in the USA

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Dave O

Very similar to how there are very few American cars in many areas of the world but in the US there is a major foreign car market. Why? Because those countries don't want US cars in their market.

American car brands have tried to establish themselves in the UK for decades and failed because they were not of sufficient quality or they were rebadged versions of cars that were already available domestically and not supported by a reliable dealer network. They were always competitively priced.

Plenty of Mustangs on UK roads. We know the difference.

[Oystersteel92]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

American car brands have tried to establish themselves in the UK for decades and failed because they were not of sufficient quality or they were rebadged versions of cars that were already available domestically and not supported by a reliable dealer network. They were always competitively priced.

Plenty of Mustangs on UK roads. We know the difference.

Don't you (and most of Europe) have prohibitive tax rules that make large and powerful American cars and trucks very expensive to own and operate?

I don't buy the quality issue. English cars aren't known for it.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by JRell

I hear you. Luckily my Daytona won’t be coming in anytime soon. Just watch, NOW it will come in!

Yes, that’s usually the luck of the draw isn’t it

I’m hoping if you do get the call, that you can make it work as I know you’ve been waiting on this one for a while

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by Oystersteel92

Don't you (and most of Europe) have prohibitive tax rules that make large and powerful American cars and trucks very expensive to own and operate?

No. Although it depends on what you mean by expensive. I've driven German V8s for most of this century. They're not cheap per se but it's relative. Some people's affordable is other people's expensive.

Originally Posted by Oystersteel92

I don't buy the quality issue. English cars aren't known for it.

We buy Europian, American (Stellantis, Ford - fun fact, many Brits don't know Ford is American), Japanese, Indian and South Korean for the most part. There aren't many British cars to buy unless you want to buy a car with a British badge owned by Germany, Italy, America, China, Canada or India. I understand that those Indian Land Rovers can be nothing but trouble but those German Rolls Royces and Bentleys run like clockwork. Those Chinese Lotuses are a bit flaky but since Lotus has always been an acronym for Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious, we were already in the know.

[simon101]

Originally Posted by SammyTradesTX

Everyone take a deep breath and relax!

The tariffs are all just about negotiation and putting the rest of the world on notice that we aren’t going to let them rip us off like we have for the last 70 years.

Countries are already calling wanting to remove their tariffs.

In a few months time, I bet this will be behind us and you’ll be wishing you had bought the dip.

GLTA Hang in there!


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But the world has not ripped you off, the US chose, like many other countries, to use the Far East as your manufacturing base and to buy cars like Range Rovers and BMWs and buy Rolex watches. Nobody has ripped you off, it’s been your choice.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

That's because your meat is full of hormones and additives and your poultry is chlorine washed. Some countries won't allow such produce to be imported. Others add tariffs to cover the health and safety checks necessary before passing it through to consumers.

I don't know what the situation is with grains.

The beef isn't all hormone treated. There's an entire market that is not treated, but EU and UK farmers lobby hard against competing with US beef. Poultry intervention has gone largely to peroxy acetic acid (PAA).

Chlorine was the poultry industry intervention standard globally until a few years ago, but is ineffective against listeria. Producers have gone to PAA to ensure poultry products are wholesome for human consumption. No mass producer of poultry anywhere sells untreated poultry for human consumption. Again, your farmers don't want the competition and created a reason why US meat shouldn't be sold there.

[Maleg]

Originally Posted by 1st amg

What if a Canadian(me) decided to sell a Rolex here? Would the USA members have issues to buy from said Canadian? Might be a good deal for you guys as your dollar is much stronger than my Canadian Peso.

Since you are the 51st state there wouldn't be a tariff.

As you say, the CAD is weak against the USD. I would buy Canadian all day long. Perhaps someone who knows can tell us how the tariffs work on the private sale of personal property.

[simon101]

Originally Posted by Maleg

The beef isn't all hormone treated. There's an entire market that is not treated, but EU and UK farmers lobby hard against competing with US beef. Poultry intervention has gone largely to peroxy acetic acid (PAA).

Chlorine was the poultry industry intervention standard globally until a few years ago, but is ineffective against listeria. Producers have gone to PAA to ensure poultry products are wholesome for human consumption. No mass producer of poultry anywhere sells untreated poultry for human consumption. Again, your farmers don't want the competition and created a reason why US meat shouldn't be sold there.

But always better to eat locally grown and reared food. Cattle I can see in the fields, veg from my kitchen garden. Yum.

[codecow]

Originally Posted by DoricSpiker

Yes Quebec City is on the list.
Been to Toronto and Niagara last year and loved it. Proper large cosmopolitan city. Welcomed us with open arms.


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Quebec City is awesome.

[Harry-57]

Originally Posted by simon101

But always better to eat locally grown and reared food. Cattle I can see in the fields, veg from my kitchen garden. Yum.

Branching out somewhat but a valid point. Even an ant knows that ultimate extinction is accelerated by getting less energy out of food that goes into acquiring it. Plus the expense of transportation, pollution caused and additives/processes necessary to preserve it in transit. As far as beef, poultry and grain goes, isn't America comfortably self sufficient? Sounds like it from what I hear.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Dave O

By not allowing products such as beef, poultry, grains and other US produced items into countries as they put such a high tariff on it that we can't sell it to them, or they outright ban certain products from being sold in their country altogether.

US animal husbandry and food safety standards are a disgrace. Many of the agricultural NTFs (non-tariff barriers) are not to do with protectionism but are rather protecting citizens and consumers.

[BuffaloRolex]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

US animal husbandry and food safety standards are a disgrace. Many of the agricultural NTFs (non-tariff barriers) are not to do with protectionism but are rather protecting citizens and consumers.

I 100% agree with this. Our agriculture practices are horrific. Thank you Monsanto, et. al. I would not buy from us either. In fact, I actively work not to buy what is mostly garbage "food."

[mongrelnomoad]

Also, quick note: most English cars aren’t “English”, as in the majority of cars manufactured in Blighty have a Toyota, Honda or Nissan badge on the bonnet.

[UK Albert]

Originally Posted by Harry-57

That's because your meat is full of hormones and additives and your poultry is chlorine washed. Some countries won't allow such produce to be imported. Others add tariffs to cover the health and safety checks necessary before passing it through to consumers.

I don't know what the situation is with grains.

We can buy US Beef now.
In my opinion it’s the best.

[FloydRedford]

Originally Posted by simon101

But the world has not ripped you off, the US chose, like many other countries, to use the Far East as your manufacturing base and to buy cars like Range Rovers and BMWs and buy Rolex watches. Nobody has ripped you off, it’s been your choice.

Absolutely correct


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[Kevin Rohrer]

The bottom line in this topic is that I do not see watch prices increase due to the temporary Tariffs, unless they are used as an excuse to price gouge.

But, I decided not to trust Fate, and acquired a second Rolex (JC DSSD) over the weekend.

[mongrelnomoad]

Originally Posted by Dave O

Let's not kid ourselves. It's to protect your market. Very similar to how there are very few American cars in many areas of the world but in the US there is a major foreign car market. Why? Because those countries don't want US cars in their market.

Mate, I do wonder if you’ve ever travelled.

A Ford F150 would simply not fit in a parking space in London, or through a street in Rome or Tokyo. Its gas mileage would cripple anyone trying to drive it in country where petrol is taxed. People don’t buy your cars because what works for you doesn’t work for us - that’s why American companies like Ford and GM have different (and successful) offerings in the rest of the world vs the US.

Perhaps Americans buy foreign cars because while your cars don’t work with us, ours do work with you, and Americans actually like what they offer?

Not everything is some great conspiracy.

[FloydRedford]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Mate, I do wonder if you’ve ever travelled.

A Ford F150 would simply not fit in a parking space in London, or through a street in Rome or Tokyo. Its gas mileage would cripple anyone trying to drive it in country where petrol is taxed. People don’t buy your cars because what works for you doesn’t work for us - that’s why American companies like Ford and GM have different (and successful) offerings in the rest of the world vs the US.

Perhaps Americans buy foreign cars because while your cars don’t work with us, ours do work with you, and Americans actually like what they offer?

Not everything is some great conspiracy.

Exactly! It would be comical seeing an F150 oafishly bumbling around the streets of say, Paris. Wouldn’t fit in the lanes and would be a hazard. Unfortunately some of us have never travelled and want to cling to some grand conspiracy theories.


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[HiBoost]

Originally Posted by mongrelnomoad

Mate, I do wonder if you’ve ever travelled.

A Ford F150 would simply not fit in a parking space in London, or through a street in Rome or Tokyo. Its gas mileage would cripple anyone trying to drive it in country where petrol is taxed. People don’t buy your cars because what works for you doesn’t work for us - that’s why American companies like Ford and GM have different (and successful) offerings in the rest of the world vs the US.

Perhaps Americans buy foreign cars because while your cars don’t work with us, ours do work with you, and Americans actually like what they offer?

Not everything is some great conspiracy.

Well said! Not to mention the incredibly blurred lines on what "nationality" a car is these days. Our Lexus was made in Canada and our GM was made in Mexico. For the vehicles we were shopping, if I wanted to buy something made-in-America it would have had to be a BMW

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by steveclr

Thanks to the mods for not locking this thread down. It's nice to hear differing opinions as long as nobody is being threatened.

Agreed.

It’s entertaining to say the least