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padi56 · 21 September 2009, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BBH

The dial has "T SWISS T" at the 6 oclock position. As I said, I bought it from the Navy Exchange in Rota, Spain in the 1964 time frame.

Then your watch was definitely made after 1960.

Bimmernate · 21 September 2009, 04:53 AM

interesting thread is interesting.

BBH · 22 September 2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by diverdick

My 1965 watch is a 1280531 so I'd guess there is a missing 7th digit (probably a 1) which preceeds your serial number. 1164808 would be around 1964.

This makes sense, but I swear I can't see another "1" preceding the "1" I can see. Come on, Case Cracker !!!

Rikki · 22 September 2009, 11:20 AM

The other way to comfirm is the calibre of the movement. A 1603 will have a calibre 1565/1575 movement those movements we're not made in the 40's. When you open it look at the movement and the auto bridge will have the number on it. That's the center bridge with the occillating weight that spins on it. Rik the watchmaker

springer · 22 September 2009, 01:53 PM

Your watch is around 1956 vintage which is not far off from when you purchased it. What I've noticed on the older watches is that it is three or four years before the watch even makes it to a dealer to be sold. So, all is well and your case still appears to be original.

BBH · 23 September 2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

Your watch is around 1956 vintage which is not far off from when you purchased it. What I've noticed on the older watches is that it is three or four years before the watch even makes it to a dealer to be sold. So, all is well and your case still appears to be original.

This makes the most sense of all.

I assume the case back would have a 1956 mark, if true? Can't wait for my case cracker.

padi56 · 23 September 2009, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by springer

Your watch is around 1956 vintage which is not far off from when you purchased it. What I've noticed on the older watches is that it is three or four years before the watch even makes it to a dealer to be sold. So, all is well and your case still appears to be original.

Well not possible with a T SWISS T dial they started from 1960 on if it was pre 1960 it would say just SWISS radium dial.I would doubt if it had a dial change in that short period of time.

BBH · 24 September 2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Idle Swede

How can that be if your watch wasn't even released then?

Well, I didn't know that. This is a "Learning Experience" for me. The "Case Cracker" wrench with Rolex Dies came today, but in order to not screw up the case, I need more components... so, I ordered a complete (Not Bergeron, alas...) LG OpenAll Wrench and base set.

Obviously,it would be far, far too easy to simply take it to my Rolex jeweler, wouldn't it?

I shall keep those of you that remain curious posted.

Bill

sakuraba · 24 September 2009, 09:05 AM

You want to talk about old inventory:

My mom's Lady DJ was handed down to her by my grandmother. On the case back engraving, my grandfather dated it "1957" when he bought the watch in HongKong. After we got it back from servicing, the watchmaker informed us that the watch was made in 1943!

Idle Swede · 24 September 2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BBH

Obviously,it would be far, far too easy to simply take it to my Rolex jeweler, wouldn't it?

Bill

Yes, that would have been too easy.

BBH · 25 September 2009, 12:45 AM

Keeping the thread "fresh" until I get my "Case Cracker" hardware.

OPK · 25 September 2009, 01:44 AM

'64 predates my existence... might have referred to it as an antique myself ;>)

PHPuser · 25 September 2009, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BBH

...
Obviously,it would be far, far too easy to simply take it to my Rolex jeweler, wouldn't it?

...
Bill

Takes all the fun out of it though. This way you get to buy more toys!!!!!

BBH · 30 September 2009, 03:02 AM

Well, I received my "case cracker" today and opened up my SS Datejust, serial # 164808. Inside the caseback was "IV64".Soooo, 4th quarter of 1964 was manufacture timeframe.

And, there is no doubt about the serial number. So, is this serial number just an anomaly or what?

And, I really have some self inflicted doubts about watertight integrity now, so after all this, I will probably take it in to be serviced by an AD. Oh well.

BBH · 30 September 2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by diverdick

My 1965 watch is a 1280531 so I'd guess there is a missing 7th digit (probably a 1) which preceeds your serial number. 1164808 would be around 1964.

I CANNOT see a missing "1", but the case back has IV64 on it, so, if I was to award a prize, I'd give it to you.

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BBH "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 86	Mystery Solved. Well, I received my "case cracker" today and opened up my SS Datejust, serial # 164808. Inside the caseback was "IV64".Soooo, 4th quarter of 1964 was manufacture timeframe. And, there is no doubt about the serial number. So, is this serial number just an anomaly or what? And, I really have some self inflicted doubts about watertight integrity now, so after all this, I will probably take it in to be serviced by an AD. Oh well.

21 September 2009, 04:53 AM	#32
Bimmernate Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Nate Location: USA Watch: 14060M Posts: 273	interesting thread is interesting.

22 September 2009, 11:20 AM	#34
Rikki TechXpert Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rik Dietel Location: Seminole Fla Watch: 5512 s/s Sub Posts: 1,818	The other way to comfirm is the calibre of the movement. A 1603 will have a calibre 1565/1575 movement those movements we're not made in the 40's. When you open it look at the movement and the auto bridge will have the number on it. That's the center bridge with the occillating weight that spins on it. Rik the watchmaker

24 September 2009, 09:05 AM	#39
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	You want to talk about old inventory: My mom's Lady DJ was handed down to her by my grandmother. On the case back engraving, my grandfather dated it "1957" when he bought the watch in HongKong. After we got it back from servicing, the watchmaker informed us that the watch was made in 1943!

25 September 2009, 12:45 AM	#41
BBH "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 86	Keeping the thread "fresh" until I get my "Case Cracker" hardware.

25 September 2009, 01:44 AM	#42
OPK Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: KS, USA Watch: SS GMT IIc Posts: 89	'64 predates my existence... might have referred to it as an antique myself ;>)

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