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padi56 · 18 November 2006, 02:37 AM

Now this is the sh!te side of eBay,wonder is that within the eBay rules?check item four what he has bought

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...:feedback:2:uk

And then he lists this POS for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PANERAI-Lumino...QQcmdZViewItem

18 November 2006, 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

Now this is the sh!te side of eBay,wonder is that within the eBay rules?check item four what he has bought

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...:feedback:2:uk

And then he lists this POS for sale.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PANERAI-Lumino...QQcmdZViewItem

Well if the Buy it Now price doesn't give it away, then nothing else would.

Why show the pic of the movement when it's so obviously NOT authentic. The hands also look short and the COSC cert is wrong, and he's erased the 'i' on Panerai on the dial, I guess to avoid it being a fake... that's just on first glance.

padi56 · 18 November 2006, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Well if the Buy it Now price doesn't give it away, then nothing else would.

Why show the pic of the movement when it's so obviously NOT authentic. The hands also look short and the COSC cert is wrong, and he's erased the 'i' on Panerai on the dial, I guess to avoid it being a fake... that's just on first glance.

Yes agree John but he must be a good guy he has 100% feedback

,Just shows you how easy it is to do.

Alcan · 18 November 2006, 11:46 PM

As always, buy the seller not the watch.

Rockrolex · 19 November 2006, 12:52 AM

Of his 14 transactions (all buys, no sells), the most expensive thing he bought cost $0.01. Talk about a cheap way to build feedback.

Not only buy the seller, make sure the seller has a good sales rep for the kind of thing you're buying.

Mark · 19 November 2006, 01:07 AM

Wow....now that's a scammer. He spent some time setting it up to. Loser !!

astcell · 19 November 2006, 01:14 AM

I bet it's a kid trying for a fast buck, thinking that dollar amount will not be subject to too much suspicion.

miner · 24 November 2006, 10:21 PM

How about blenheimbomber who bought the watch for GBP 575 two days ago. He could have got a damn fine Seiko or Steinhart and had lots of change.

amanda · 24 November 2006, 10:34 PM

Quote from the auction:
"Questions from other members

Question & Answer Answered On

Q: Can you provide an image of the movement? The date font looks different from the Panerai that I saw at the local authorized dealer. Can you guarantee...more
15-Nov-06
A: Hi, I don't think I can manage to open the back myself, I will try from a watch dealer tomorrow. All I can say is contain in the description. Thank you...more "

So he's not saying its genuine and hes not saying anything at all! Very very dodgy.... I hope they buyer realises what they are getting.

25 November 2006, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda

Quote from the auction:
"Questions from other members

Question & Answer Answered On

Q: Can you provide an image of the movement? The date font looks different from the Panerai that I saw at the local authorized dealer. Can you guarantee...more
15-Nov-06
A: Hi, I don't think I can manage to open the back myself, I will try from a watch dealer tomorrow. All I can say is contain in the description. Thank you...more "

So he's not saying its genuine and hes not saying anything at all! Very very dodgy.... I hope they buyer realises what they are getting.

If any buyer does any amount of homework, the 'buy it now' price would be a dead giveaway. It's impossible to buy a genuine Panny for under $2500 or so.

RandyS · 25 November 2006, 09:16 AM

wait a minute, how about the guy selling positive ebay feedbacks for $.01

that is ingenious! or is it? does he actually have people pay him one cent, and if it is only one cent, he obviously cant make any money that way, can he?

Rockrolex · 25 November 2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyS

wait a minute, how about the guy selling positive ebay feedbacks for $.01

that is ingenious! or is it? does he actually have people pay him one cent, and if it is only one cent, he obviously cant make any money that way, can he?

It's the same theory as the guy who sells dollars for $0.98. He takes a loss on each one but he makes it up on volume.

Spark · 27 November 2006, 05:38 AM

Hi Guys,
Lets face it eBay feedback is bo**ocks anyway.
I have well over 500 positive feedback through honest descriptions of items and honest dealings with sellers, but it still isn't worth a light as I know I haven't stitched anybody up, but I have been stitched up by sellers and haven't left any feedback as if I had left negative I would have got one in return, so how many people on there should have sh*t loads of negatives and probably have 100% positive?

Spark.

haakon59 · 27 November 2006, 07:42 AM

I just hate to see these scammers on eBay. What if someone who doesn't know watches bought this as a Christmas present for their watch collector friend, etc.? They are going to be out all that money for a fake watch not worth a cent.

haakon59 · 27 November 2006, 07:44 AM

These kinds of people just make me thankful for the group we have here at the Rolex Forums. It just tells you how valuable a nice group can be if you do need help verifying the authenticity of a watch.

JJ Irani · 27 November 2006, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haakon59

These kinds of people just make me thankful for the group we have here at the Rolex Forums. It just tells you how valuable a nice group can be if you do need help verifying the authenticity of a watch.

Thank you, haakon....now that this very fine group of people indeed are!!

18 November 2006, 02:37 AM	#1
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19 November 2006, 12:52 AM	#5
Rockrolex TRF Moderator & 2025 Titanium Yacht-Master Patron Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: God Location: Washington, D.C. Watch: What do you think? Posts: 38,113	Of his 14 transactions (all buys, no sells), the most expensive thing he bought cost $0.01. Talk about a cheap way to build feedback. Not only buy the seller, make sure the seller has a good sales rep for the kind of thing you're buying. __________________ Despite the high cost of living, it's still very popular. *Tosser Cabinet Member* Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2019

27 November 2006, 05:38 AM	#13
Spark "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Real Name: Mark Location: U.K. Watch: Too Many Posts: 2,097	Feedback is pretty much boocks anyway Hi Guys, Lets face it eBay feedback is boocks anyway. I have well over 500 positive feedback through honest descriptions of items and honest dealings with sellers, but it still isn't worth a light as I know I haven't stitched anybody up, but I have been stitched up by sellers and haven't left any feedback as if I had left negative I would have got one in return, so how many people on there should have sh*t loads of negatives and probably have 100% positive? Spark.

18 November 2006, 11:46 PM	#4
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	As always, buy the seller not the watch.

19 November 2006, 01:07 AM	#6
Mark TRF Founder Join Date: Nov 2004 Real Name: Mark Location: Florida Watch: PAM 187 / SS LV Posts: 719	Wow....now that's a scammer. He spent some time setting it up to. Loser !!

19 November 2006, 01:14 AM	#7
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	I bet it's a kid trying for a fast buck, thinking that dollar amount will not be subject to too much suspicion.

24 November 2006, 10:21 PM	#8
miner "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 1,294	How about blenheimbomber who bought the watch for GBP 575 two days ago. He could have got a damn fine Seiko or Steinhart and had lots of change.

24 November 2006, 10:34 PM	#9
amanda Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,380	Quote from the auction: "Questions from other members Question & Answer Answered On Q: Can you provide an image of the movement? The date font looks different from the Panerai that I saw at the local authorized dealer. Can you guarantee...more 15-Nov-06 A: Hi, I don't think I can manage to open the back myself, I will try from a watch dealer tomorrow. All I can say is contain in the description. Thank you...more " So he's not saying its genuine and hes not saying anything at all! Very very dodgy.... I hope they buyer realises what they are getting.

25 November 2006, 09:16 AM	#11
RandyS "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 430	wait a minute, how about the guy selling positive ebay feedbacks for $.01 that is ingenious! or is it? does he actually have people pay him one cent, and if it is only one cent, he obviously cant make any money that way, can he?

27 November 2006, 07:42 AM	#14
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	I just hate to see these scammers on eBay. What if someone who doesn't know watches bought this as a Christmas present for their watch collector friend, etc.? They are going to be out all that money for a fake watch not worth a cent.

27 November 2006, 07:44 AM	#15
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	These kinds of people just make me thankful for the group we have here at the Rolex Forums. It just tells you how valuable a nice group can be if you do need help verifying the authenticity of a watch.

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