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Denver Dick · 22 October 2009, 06:31 AM

I have owned four different Rolex DJ watches over the past 35 years, one at a time. For the past 22 1/2 years I've owned a TT DJ 16013. (I posted the story here: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=97061) The 16013 had not been serviced during the past 11 1/2 years, and the last servicing in early '98 was not done at a RSC.

It's currently at the RSC in Pennsylvania where they recommended their basic servicing, including a new crystal, crown and tube. They also recommended new hour hands, a second hand, champagne dial, Jubilee bracelet and two additional links (to match the length of the one currently on it). I initially approved everything but the new bracelet and links for a total of $906. I nixed the new Jubilee bracelet with two additional links for an additional $2,140 ($1,950 + $190).

After my initial approval a couple of weeks ago, I began thinking about acquiring a second Rolex. At first I thought about an Explorer II, but then when I actually began examining all the Rolex watches at my AD, I found myself admiring a new TT DJ and, because of price, began thinking of compromising on a SS Oyster Perpetual with white gold fluted bezel (nice watch). Ultimately, I realized that for 35 years I've had one (at a time) Rolex that I've worn every day. If I get a second Rolex, one's going to end up in its box in a drawer, an expensive drawer decoration. I know there are many "collectors" on this forum, who will say, "Yeah, so?" But, although I'm a collector of firearms and understand the "collector's drive," I'm not a Rolex collector.

So, I decided to put my trusted friend of 22 1/2 years in as close to new condition as the RCS can get it and keep it on my wrist for another 22 1/2 years. However, I'm going to service it a little more often then every 11 years.

A couple of days ago I had the AD call the RSC and add the new bracelet and links, i.e., I went with all their recommendations.

The way I ended up looking at it was like this:

To bring my TT DJ 16013 back to new condition with a new TT Jubilee bracelet is costing me $3,297.30, including sales tax out the door. A new TT DJ Model 116233 with two additional links out the door from an AD also including sales tax would cost me $9,677.55. Assuming I could net $1,300 from the sale of my current Rolex (selling price of $2,200 after $900 in servicing) to apply to the purchase of the new 116233, the difference between keeping my friend in as new condition or buying a new 116233 would be $5,080.25. Even if I got an AD to give me a 10% discount on the new 116233, the difference would still be $4,112.50.

I'll post some photos when it gets back from the RSC. My expectations are high since I'm going with the new bracelet.

OPK · 22 October 2009, 06:48 AM

Like the way you think. Not sure I'd be able to decide between two every day. Looking forward to seeing the renovated piece of art that comes back from the RSC. Cheers, Chris

Wolfgang427 · 22 October 2009, 06:53 AM

Very nice

your DJ will come back as new for sure.

Nick1959 · 22 October 2009, 06:54 AM

after such a long loyal service I would hate to let it go. But then if you are not a collector and just want to keep the old one you are saving more than 4k

SwissBlood · 22 October 2009, 08:45 AM

You are my hero. Excellent story.

Mike

ingoodtime · 22 October 2009, 10:44 AM

Good story. I was collecting watches and always seemed to have an itch for another conquest. Something about the new GMT struck me and I had to have one. I could be happy with just this watch and find myself wearing it more than the others. Only time will tell if the itch is really gone or just in hiding. I know I would like the 18 KT YG GMT. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a pre-owned in a few years. Man, that would be sa-weet!

Christiaan · 22 October 2009, 11:17 AM

Very good move. I'm looking forward to seeing what a "restored" Rolex, per RSC reccomendation, will look like. I'm hoping it looks better than new!

Perdu · 22 October 2009, 11:35 AM

A Rolex is for life, not just for Christmas.

Deyn Man · 22 October 2009, 12:30 PM

knowing what you want, weighing the options, and going with what you feel is the best thing to do! i am not worthy!

Strut99GT · 22 October 2009, 12:49 PM

Will they replace your bracelet with the new style jubilee, which should theoretically stand up better to stretch?

JBat · 22 October 2009, 12:57 PM

I think that's a sound decision. I look forward to seeing the pics of your restored beauty when you get it back.

Denver Dick · 22 October 2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strut99GT

Will they replace your bracelet with the new style jubilee . . .

No, it will be a brand spanking new "Bracelet – 62523 20mm SS/18K yellow gold Jubilee (455)" per the RSC's written estimate. In fact, the AD told me that the new champagne dial will be just like the one that was on it when I sent it in, except it will be new. It will have the solid gold stick markers like the original and not the wider luminous sticks currently on DJ dials. However, he did note that because they no longer use tritium (or something like that), I might notice that the luminous dots above the solid markers are a little different color than the original dots. Anyway, that's what he says. I hope he's right because I like the solid gold sticks better than the current luminous sticks.

All shall be revealed when it arrives back home.

cali kid · 22 October 2009, 02:26 PM

Wise decision, cant wait to see the pics!

Green Arrow · 24 October 2009, 01:37 PM

What a classy choice. Looking forward to the photos.

dalip · 24 October 2009, 01:52 PM

sounds good Wayne.. look forward to pics

Some Pair · 24 October 2009, 02:10 PM

... and I also look forward to seeing your "old friend"

touchdowntodd · 25 October 2009, 01:09 AM

great choice, i would have had it done by someone other than Rolex to save some $$... but otherwise the best choice.. ill never let me IIc go

22 October 2009, 06:31 AM	#1
Denver Dick "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Wayne Location: Ventura County CA Watch: TT DateJust 16013 Posts: 428	No Second Rolex, I've Decided on a Different Tack . . . I have owned four different Rolex DJ watches over the past 35 years, one at a time. For the past 22 1/2 years I've owned a TT DJ 16013. (I posted the story here: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=97061) The 16013 had not been serviced during the past 11 1/2 years, and the last servicing in early '98 was not done at a RSC. It's currently at the RSC in Pennsylvania where they recommended their basic servicing, including a new crystal, crown and tube. They also recommended new hour hands, a second hand, champagne dial, Jubilee bracelet and two additional links (to match the length of the one currently on it). I initially approved everything but the new bracelet and links for a total of $906. I nixed the new Jubilee bracelet with two additional links for an additional $2,140 ($1,950 + $190). After my initial approval a couple of weeks ago, I began thinking about acquiring a second Rolex. At first I thought about an Explorer II, but then when I actually began examining all the Rolex watches at my AD, I found myself admiring a new TT DJ and, because of price, began thinking of compromising on a SS Oyster Perpetual with white gold fluted bezel (nice watch). Ultimately, I realized that for 35 years I've had one (at a time) Rolex that I've worn every day. If I get a second Rolex, one's going to end up in its box in a drawer, an expensive drawer decoration. I know there are many "collectors" on this forum, who will say, "Yeah, so?" But, although I'm a collector of firearms and understand the "collector's drive," I'm not a Rolex collector. So, I decided to put my trusted friend of 22 1/2 years in as close to new condition as the RCS can get it and keep it on my wrist for another 22 1/2 years. However, I'm going to service it a little more often then every 11 years. A couple of days ago I had the AD call the RSC and add the new bracelet and links, i.e., I went with all their recommendations. The way I ended up looking at it was like this: To bring my TT DJ 16013 back to new condition with a new TT Jubilee bracelet is costing me $3,297.30, including sales tax out the door. A new TT DJ Model 116233 with two additional links out the door from an AD also including sales tax would cost me $9,677.55. Assuming I could net $1,300 from the sale of my current Rolex (selling price of $2,200 after $900 in servicing) to apply to the purchase of the new 116233, the difference between keeping my friend in as new condition or buying a new 116233 would be $5,080.25. Even if I got an AD to give me a 10% discount on the new 116233, the difference would still be $4,112.50. I'll post some photos when it gets back from the RSC. My expectations are high since I'm going with the new bracelet.

22 October 2009, 08:45 AM	#5
SwissBlood "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 8	I aspire to be a "one-watch man". You are my hero. Excellent story. Mike

22 October 2009, 11:17 AM	#7
Christiaan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Christiaan Location: Fort Mill, SC Watch: 67' Breitling Navi Posts: 1,617	Very good move. I'm looking forward to seeing what a "restored" Rolex, per RSC reccomendation, will look like. I'm hoping it looks better than new! __________________ "Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities" Frank Lloyd Wright. "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward. For there you have been and there you will long to return." DaVinci

22 October 2009, 11:35 AM	#8
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	A Rolex is for life, not just for Christmas. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

24 October 2009, 01:52 PM	#15
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	sounds good Wayne.. look forward to pics __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

22 October 2009, 06:48 AM	#2
OPK Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: KS, USA Watch: SS GMT IIc Posts: 89	Like the way you think. Not sure I'd be able to decide between two every day. Looking forward to seeing the renovated piece of art that comes back from the RSC. Cheers, Chris

22 October 2009, 06:53 AM	#3
Wolfgang427 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Wolfgang Location: New Jersey. Watch: Rolex Tudor Omega Posts: 5,592	Very nice your DJ will come back as new for sure.

22 October 2009, 06:54 AM	#4
Nick1959 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Watch: Rolex DSSD Posts: 558	after such a long loyal service I would hate to let it go. But then if you are not a collector and just want to keep the old one you are saving more than 4k

22 October 2009, 10:44 AM	#6
ingoodtime "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 2,834	Good story. I was collecting watches and always seemed to have an itch for another conquest. Something about the new GMT struck me and I had to have one. I could be happy with just this watch and find myself wearing it more than the others. Only time will tell if the itch is really gone or just in hiding. I know I would like the 18 KT YG GMT. Maybe I'll be able to pick up a pre-owned in a few years. Man, that would be sa-weet!

22 October 2009, 12:30 PM	#9
Deyn Man "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dean Location: Philippines Posts: 1,037	knowing what you want, weighing the options, and going with what you feel is the best thing to do! i am not worthy!

22 October 2009, 12:49 PM	#10
Strut99GT Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Benbrook, TX Posts: 410	Will they replace your bracelet with the new style jubilee, which should theoretically stand up better to stretch?

22 October 2009, 12:57 PM	#11
JBat "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: John Location: Washington Watch: 16710, 16610, DJ Posts: 7,329	I think that's a sound decision. I look forward to seeing the pics of your restored beauty when you get it back.

22 October 2009, 02:26 PM	#13
cali kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Trevor Location: Monterey Co. Ca. Watch: 16610, 16613, 024 Posts: 439	Wise decision, cant wait to see the pics!

24 October 2009, 01:37 PM	#14
Green Arrow "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,060	What a classy choice. Looking forward to the photos.

24 October 2009, 02:10 PM	#16
Some Pair Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: seFl.byWayOfBklyn Watch: The Rollie's..... Posts: 609	"Ditto"... ... and I also look forward to seeing your "old friend"

25 October 2009, 01:09 AM	#17
touchdowntodd "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Todd (Richard) Location: Milwaukee, WI Watch: Deep Sea Sea Dwell Posts: 535	great choice, i would have had it done by someone other than Rolex to save some $$... but otherwise the best choice.. ill never let me IIc go __________________ 2013 DSSD! (ME) M Series OP No Date,White Arabic,Smooth Bezel(WIFE) Yachtmaster 1 SS/PLAT (wife)

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