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Old 13 November 2009, 12:06 AM   #1
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Too Fast Too Furious ?

Hello everyone!
Bought my new Milgauss GV last Oct 31. Started using it since last week. Just a bit concerned because its running way way too fast..
Based on my observations after 24 hours...
Twice it rans +10 seconds after having lied flat down on my desk..
Then also +5 after having it sideways crown up...
Should I send it back to RSC(GM JJ) for Movement service?
Or Should I give it more time to BREAK in ??
Need all my WIS family to give me some inputs...
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Old 13 November 2009, 12:17 AM   #2
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It needs more time. Wearing it on a regular basis will help it to "break in" and all should be well soon enough.
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Old 13 November 2009, 12:20 AM   #3
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I don't think a watch needs a break-in. Mine runs perfect since I got it 3 days ago. GV that is.

You can give it a few more days but I doubt it will help.
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Old 13 November 2009, 12:58 AM   #4
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I think you should have it regulated. No need to send to RSC. I'm sure a watchmaker local to you can do it.
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Old 13 November 2009, 01:02 AM   #5
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if you got it in the mail, most likely it was mishandled and banged against the floor heavily, shocking the micro-adjustment in the balance wheel off a bit.

No need to break-in, 10 seconds fast is outside spec and is NOT acceptable. Send it for service asap.
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Old 13 November 2009, 01:13 AM   #6
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I think you should have it regulated. No need to send to RSC. I'm sure a watchmaker local to you can do it.
Actually RSC is just 10mins walk from my office.
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Old 13 November 2009, 01:14 AM   #7
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if you got it in the mail, most likely it was mishandled and banged against the floor heavily, shocking the micro-adjustment in the balance wheel off a bit.

No need to break-in, 10 seconds fast is outside spec and is NOT acceptable. Send it for service asap.
It was actually bought from an AD... Thanks for the advice.
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Old 13 November 2009, 01:41 AM   #8
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I can't imagine what would need to break in. Either the watch is regulated properly (and it doesn't seem to be) or it isn't. Take it to be regulated soon so it can be thoroughly checked out to be certain there's nothing seriously wrong with it. Cool watch though, you'll love it more each time you wear it!

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Old 13 November 2009, 02:28 AM   #9
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Actually RSC is just 10mins walk from my office.
It would be great to office that close to RSC.
I am in Houston so its still very close.
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Old 13 November 2009, 02:33 AM   #10
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Hello everyone!
Bought my new Milgauss GV last Oct 31. Started using it since last week. Just a bit concerned because its running way way too fast..
Based on my observations after 24 hours...
Twice it rans +10 seconds after having lied flat down on my desk..
Then also +5 after having it sideways crown up...
Should I send it back to RSC(GM JJ) for Movement service?
Or Should I give it more time to BREAK in ??
Need all my WIS family to give me some inputs...
Well first that's no way to test the accuracy on any watch and in the flat position for 24 hours I would expect any watch to gain a few seconds that's normal.And vertical crown up or down I would expect it to lose.That why they are tested in 5 positions now before to run and get the back off.Wind watch fully
40 crown turns clockwise/set time with reliable time source.Then wear on wrist as normal check time daily with same setting source then average out loss or gain over say 5 days.If still out of spec a average of -4 to +6 over 24 hours all it needs is simple regulation a 30 minute job start to finish.
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i say take it back to RSC

i won't expect a Rolex (or any COSC certified movment) needs time to break-in
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Old 13 November 2009, 04:40 AM   #12
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i say take it back to RSC

i won't expect a Rolex (or any COSC certified movment) needs time to break-in
+ 1. Take it to RSC. They will regulate it to near perfect time.
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Old 13 November 2009, 12:07 PM   #13
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Thanks for the help... Guess I really have to bring it to RSC.
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Old 13 November 2009, 12:38 PM   #14
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Hi Carlos,

Which time server are you using? If it is your computer how often does your computer update? I would like to confirm your time setting method before you open the watch and fix a problem you might not have.
Also as Peter said, you need to wind it, set it and wear in for a few weeks - then evaluate.
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I don't think a watch needs a break-in. Mine runs perfect since I got it 3 days ago. GV that is.

You can give it a few more days but I doubt it will help.
I also do not believe in this "break in period" theory, it is not logical. I challenge a watchmaker to prove me wrong. I would send it in for re-regulation, free under warranty. And as my latest post warned, if you do, just call the RSC of your choice, mine being Dallas, and ask them to send you the free mailing kit to mail your watch to them, it's all inclusive, and very easy, and spares you from your dealer screwing your watch up when it arrives back as mine was.
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Old 13 November 2009, 02:42 PM   #16
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Actually RSC is just 10mins walk from my office.
BE VERY CAREFUL about this, I was told By Rolex that if a watchmaker opens your watch and does ANYTHING during your warranty period, your warranty is now void. I was told to only send it to a Rolex service center, period. If your watch is out of warranty, go ahead, no harm.
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Old 13 November 2009, 02:47 PM   #17
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RSC for sure if it is that close
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Old 13 November 2009, 03:57 PM   #18
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send it in , pronto.......
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Old 13 November 2009, 04:42 PM   #19
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Hi Carlos,

Which time server are you using? If it is your computer how often does your computer update? I would like to confirm your time setting method before you open the watch and fix a problem you might not have.
Also as Peter said, you need to wind it, set it and wear in for a few weeks - then evaluate.
I usually compare my Computers time with rolex.com before setting time if needed for both my Sub date and Milgauss GV. update almost everytime if needed cause its always online.
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BE VERY CAREFUL about this, I was told By Rolex that if a watchmaker opens your watch and does ANYTHING during your warranty period, your warranty is now void. I was told to only send it to a Rolex service center, period. If your watch is out of warranty, go ahead, no harm.

Be careful about about RSC you mean?
Cause if i will send for service.... I would definitely only bring it to Rolex Service Center cause its a good 10mins walk from my office.
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by the way.... this might sound a bit childish...
Would i receive that lovely green pouch if i have it serviced??
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Old 13 November 2009, 05:17 PM   #22
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Hi Carlos,

Yeah I totally agree. Bring it over to the RSC.


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I would let the watch run until stop and then manually wind the watch 40times. If still runs that fast then get it regulated.
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I would let the watch run until stop and then manually wind the watch 40times. If still runs that fast then get it regulated.
At last someone with a bit of sense as stated in my previous post you cannot test any watch like the original poster stated.That why the COSC test is over 15 days and in said test the watch could deviate by 10 seconds in the 15 days and still pass the COSC test.You guys are far to eager to get the back instead of doing a proper evaluation test.And even when its regulated don't mean it will perform the same on the wrist.All sorts of things effect mechanical watches even a temperature change but the main culprit is gravity.

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Would i receive that lovely green pouch if i have it serviced??
Just cannot see the point of getting the back without a full evaluation proper test.And your watch don't need any sort of service perhaps all thats needed is simple regulation a very very very simple job on timing machine.And they dont always give a pouch after simple regulation
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At last someone with a bit of sense as stated in my previous post you cannot test any watch like the original poster stated.That why the COSC test is over 15 days and in said test the watch could deviate by 10 seconds in the 15 days and still pass the COSC test.You guys are far to eager to get the back instead of doing a proper evaluation test.And even when its regulated don't mean it will perform the same on the wrist.All sorts of things effect mechanical watches even a temperature change but the main culprit is gravity.


Just cannot see the point of getting the back without a full evaluation proper test.And your watch don't need any sort of service perhaps all thats needed is simple regulation a very very very simple job on timing machine.And they dont always give a pouch after simple regulation
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Thank you Mr. Moderator.
It seems that I still have to read a lot articles/information regarding movements before I would make any sense.

a little update today...
For the last 5 days...
First 2 days : +10
Following 3 days : +5
Today : +1
hoping that this is a good sign for things to come..
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Thank you Mr. Moderator.
It seems that I still have to read a lot articles/information regarding movements before I would make any sense.

a little update today...
For the last 5 days...
First 2 days : +10
Following 3 days : +5
Today : +1
hoping that this is a good sign for things to come..
Mechanical watches although all tested to the same COSC test they all react slightly different on individuals wrists.Now once you have found the correct resting position for your watch when off wrist.Its quite possible to get your watch to self regulate etc you might gain say 3-5 seconds in the day.And by say resting watch vertical crown up or down experiment positions at night. You could loose the day time gained over night,watches although today are made to high precision spec.And in theory they should be all the same,its mainy down to the watch wearer habits and gravity .Your watch has to bed in to your wearing habits so give it a chance before you rush to get the back.
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