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Conquistador · 11 December 2006, 02:00 PM

Is it the actual movement described here??

Description of said Alpha:
http://alpha-watch.com/details.php?myid=98

montecristo · 11 December 2006, 02:14 PM

"Tourbillon Style"...

doesn't sound like its real but what do I know.

Send them an email and ask, I'd like to know also.

edit: I send them an email.

astcell · 11 December 2006, 03:40 PM

Yes I would like to know too, that was a selling point of the watch I chose!

padi56 · 11 December 2006, 07:50 PM

Now come on guys don't think you will get a Tourbillon for that money.
Basically its just a watch with the balance wheel showing.in the style of a Tourbillon.And clearly states in the add Open Heart "Tourbillon Style" AT 6 O'CLOCK

Lt. Dan · 11 December 2006, 08:29 PM

WTF is a Tourbillon?

montecristo · 11 December 2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt. Dan

WTF is a Tourbillon?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourbillon

That thing that spins in circle to keep time.

padi56 · 11 December 2006, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt. Dan

WTF is a Tourbillon?

Tourbillon escapement

A Tourbillon is nothing more than a posh word for a watch escapement assembly that turns , including the balance wheel,and the pallet fork.Well this is in MHO on mechanical watches a very expensive toy but the tourbillon looks good spinning in its cage.Truly the watchmakers fine art in making such delicate contraption,but IMHO thats about it.The superiority of the tourbillon becomes evident only in observatory controls where the pieces are tested in one position only,and in a wrist watch IMO offers no advantage to accuracy,and the only thing its got going for it is the novelty factor,seeing it spinning it its cage a very very expensive toy.

The tourbillon does not correct position variations; it only prevents their being detected in the usual testing conditions. But when placed on the testing machine, the tourbillon reveals its weaknesses immediately.The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. It is IMO quite useless in a wrist watch mechanism. The energy it consumes is taken from the reserve destined to the regulator. As a result, the balance with less energy will have reduced advantages. All watches established to function in both manners, with or without the tourbillon, always have smaller balances of less good performance in tourbillon version.

Gravity is one of the main causes of rate variations in watches. By creating the tourbillon, watchmakers thought they was eliminating its effects. It was an error on there part. They succeeded only in masking them a little. If watchmakers could find a way of eliminating the force of gravity on watches,then perhaps they would be on to a winner.I would agree watching the tourbillon spin faster in the tourbillon cage, is quite spectacular in its operation.But as they are now are no better in terms of accuracy than your average Chronometer,or well regulated watch.And even if they could get rid of the force of gravity,say in a weightless atmosphere.The rate variations would be so little, perhaps a little better than your average Chronometer watch any brand.IMO they are a very expensive,and not really needed in a wrist watch.And are only there well because the watchmaker can make them.

Rodentman · 12 December 2006, 12:57 AM

«The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. »

You mean my boss is a tourbillon?

Rockrolex · 12 December 2006, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conquistador

Is it the actual movement described here??

Description of said Alpha:
http://alpha-watch.com/details.php?myid=98

Short answer: NO.
Tourbillon watches sell in the range of $50K and up. For $70, you are not getting the real thing.

BTW, welcome to TRF. Glad you found our merry madhouse. Stick around and join the fun.

Conquistador · 12 December 2006, 01:36 AM

Question posed to Alpha-Watch:

Does your Tourbillon collection use real movements and parts that were patented in 1801 by Breguet? Does this watch, Power Reserve Tourbillon, counter the effects of gravity by mounting the escapement in a rotating frame thus cancelling the effect of gravity when the escapement is rotated 180*? I am very interested in this watch. Please respond at your earliest convenience. Thank you

Answer:
yes, it is rotating frame , but I am not so sure patented in 1801 by Breguet since I am not a professional on this. thank.

Heh...LT. Dan, PM your home or work address to send the check. PM me here or the 'other' board where we had our group purchase. I don't use Paypal (I don't like Omidyar or Meg Whitman).

Thanks for the welcome, Rockrolex.

12 December 2006, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodentman

«The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. »

You mean my boss is a tourbillon?

ROTFLMAO! Good one Bob!

JJ Irani · 12 December 2006, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodentman

«The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. »

You mean my boss is a tourbillon?

Welcome to TRF, Conq. Hope you enjoy your stay here.

Cheers - JJ

Rodentman · 12 December 2006, 03:12 AM

He's fun to watch him put the spin on things...

mikey · 12 December 2006, 04:56 AM

Would it be close to say no mortal man can purchase a Tourbillion for under $100?

Conquistador · 12 December 2006, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey

Would it be close to say no mortal man can purchase a Tourbillion for under $100?

You can get a 'rotating frame' for under 100 according to Alpha-Watch

astcell · 12 December 2006, 05:20 AM

I told a friend I was getting a tourbillon. She asked who died and left me all that money.

Goodwatch · 12 December 2006, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodentman

«The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. »

You mean my boss is a tourbillon?

My wife could be a tourbillon

(Anne entering the room and seeing this message). What? No dear just a joke... auw, ah, no, just joking, I won't do it, auw, again. What? The couch?

montecristo · 12 December 2006, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

I told a friend I was getting a tourbillon. She asked who died and left me all that money.

Smart lady, you got that alpha tourbillon?

Conquistador · 12 December 2006, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

I told a friend I was getting a tourbillon. She asked who died and left me all that money.

I'm getting the same one you are...the dual zone tourbillon

astcell · 12 December 2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montecristo

Smart lady, you got that alpha tourbillon?

Yup, got #99.

JJ Irani · 12 December 2006, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

I told a friend I was getting a tourbillon. She asked who died and left me all that money.

montecristo · 12 December 2006, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

Yup, got #99.

can you record a short video clip when you get the watch?
I want to see how that fake tourbillon works.

astcell · 13 December 2006, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by montecristo

can you record a short video clip when you get the watch?
I want to see how that fake tourbillon works.

I can do that...do you want a real video or a fake video?

amanda · 13 December 2006, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rodentman

«The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. »

You mean my boss is a tourbillon?

montecristo · 13 December 2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astcell

I can do that...do you want a real video or a fake video?

lol, a video of that said alpha would be fine.

11 December 2006, 02:00 PM	#1
Conquistador "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 6	Alpha Tourbillon...real? Is it the actual movement described here?? Description of said Alpha: http://alpha-watch.com/details.php?myid=98

11 December 2006, 07:50 PM	#4
padi56 "TRF" Life Patron Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Peter Location: Llanfairpwllgwyng Watch: ing you. Posts: 53,018	Now come on guys don't think you will get a Tourbillon for that money. Basically its just a watch with the balance wheel showing.in the style of a Tourbillon.And clearly states in the add Open Heart "Tourbillon Style" AT 6 O'CLOCK __________________ ICom Pro3 All posts are my own opinion and my opinion only. "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop. Now is the only time you actually own the time, Place no faith in time, for the clock may soon be still for ever." Good Judgement comes from experience,experience comes from Bad Judgement,.Buy quality, cry once; buy cheap, cry again and again. www.mc0yad.club Second in command CEO and left handed watch winder

11 December 2006, 02:14 PM	#2
montecristo "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Ken Location: New York Watch: 116234 DateJust Posts: 1,769	"Tourbillon Style"... doesn't sound like its real but what do I know. Send them an email and ask, I'd like to know also. edit: I send them an email.

11 December 2006, 03:40 PM	#3
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	Yes I would like to know too, that was a selling point of the watch I chose!

11 December 2006, 08:29 PM	#5
Lt. Dan Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Memphis,TN Watch: 16710 pepsi GMT II Posts: 213	WTF is a Tourbillon?

12 December 2006, 12:57 AM	#8
Rodentman Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: ACCT CLOSED Location: - Posts: 1,497	«The tourbillon is in fact an additional mechanism that consumes energy without producing anything except misinformation. » You mean my boss is a tourbillon?

12 December 2006, 01:36 AM	#10
Conquistador "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 6	Question posed to Alpha-Watch: Does your Tourbillon collection use real movements and parts that were patented in 1801 by Breguet? Does this watch, Power Reserve Tourbillon, counter the effects of gravity by mounting the escapement in a rotating frame thus cancelling the effect of gravity when the escapement is rotated 180*? I am very interested in this watch. Please respond at your earliest convenience. Thank you Answer: yes, it is rotating frame , but I am not so sure patented in 1801 by Breguet since I am not a professional on this. thank. Heh...LT. Dan, PM your home or work address to send the check. PM me here or the 'other' board where we had our group purchase. I don't use Paypal (I don't like Omidyar or Meg Whitman). Thanks for the welcome, Rockrolex.

12 December 2006, 03:12 AM	#13
Rodentman Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Real Name: ACCT CLOSED Location: - Posts: 1,497	He's fun to watch him put the spin on things...

12 December 2006, 04:56 AM	#14
mikey "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Watch: Oysterdate 6694 Posts: 2,713	Would it be close to say no mortal man can purchase a Tourbillion for under $100?

12 December 2006, 05:20 AM	#16
astcell "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Robert Location: Angelus Oaks, CA Watch: 116713 Posts: 6,828	I told a friend I was getting a tourbillon. She asked who died and left me all that money.

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