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jlopicco · 27 December 2009, 08:35 AM

I'm very close to picking up my first Rolex and want to start my collection off right, with a Sub of some sort. I personally love the Sub ND, however being my first Rolex I kind of want to have the date function. I have a very good relationship with a jeweler who can get gray market Rolex's and will pretty much match or beat any price I find.

I love the 16600 because it looks similar to the ND but still has the date complication.
The 16610LV with a black bezel insert is probably my second favorite because of the maxi dial.
But he has a brand new 16610 for $5,200 usd and I think that is a pretty good price, and am led to believe its too good to pass up.

Do you think I should go for the deal on the regular Sub or get one of the other two that I like probably a little better. Also, what are good starting prices to throw at him to begin negotiating for the other two, both of which he would have to locate and get for me?

Any help is appreciated and would love to get anyone's input!

RolexPete32 · 27 December 2009, 08:39 AM

20% off MSRP brand new (not second hand) is a good deal. I have the sub LV and enjoy it. Some will say you can score up to 30% off MSRP? The best I could ever do was 20% plus an additional $150.00 off SS Rolex watches.

Playdrv4me · 27 December 2009, 08:57 AM

Best discount I've ever seen on a brand new one was 22% off MSRP at a jewelry store that was CLOSING in wichita (Barrier's... a shame). I purchased ONE new Rolex AT MSR however and vowed never to do that again if I can at all avoid it. Had that "new" in the wrapper experience once and now I can say I've been there and done that! Mine was as a matter of fact a 16610LV which was sold soon after.

General rule of thumb with something like a Rolex... If you aren't getting the one you ACTUALLY WANT... Then why bother? Have him find the one you truly desire and enjoy it. Personally, I love the maxi-dial, but would get a 116710 GMT 2 to get all the latest updates or wait for the new sub. The new bracelet alone is worth it to me.

esm · 27 December 2009, 09:24 AM

sounds like a very good deal to me.
I'd double check the warranty since you are getting it from a grey dealer if I were you.

Good luck!

PhilM · 27 December 2009, 09:40 AM

Get the one you want, which sounds to me like it should be the SD

erock · 27 December 2009, 10:32 AM

davidsw has a 16610lv for 5200 in the for sale section. maybe you should check that one out and then get the black bezel insert for it since that is what you really want an it would be the same price as what you are looking at. Id be sure to get exactly what you truly want and not compromise for something that is not all you are looling for

JJ Irani · 27 December 2009, 10:33 AM

16610!! End of story!!

Rags · 27 December 2009, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jj irani

16610!! End of story!!

x2

Sonny Crockett · 27 December 2009, 10:36 AM

Seems logical to get the Sub LV and buy a black bezel to swap whenever you like. it will be like having 2 watches, no one will know it's the same watch but you, plus you get the maxi dial, No brainer I would buy the LV DavidSw has for sale V series too....

Andad · 27 December 2009, 10:42 AM

Sea dweller is the way to go.

JJ Irani · 27 December 2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

Sea dweller is the way to go.

Especially if the first owner was one bald bugger in NZ!!

Psmith · 27 December 2009, 10:50 AM

Can't go wrong with any of these, but the classic 16610 is the best pick imho...

Cheers

jlopicco · 27 December 2009, 10:54 AM

I think I am leaning towards the LV and finding a black bezel insert. Are the inserts hard to come by?

Speed · 27 December 2009, 11:01 AM

They grow on trees. ;-)

Seriously. You will have to buy one on TRF or perhaps your jeweler can get an authentic one. An AD in the US will likely not want to do the job since the black does not officially go with the LV.

JimC · 27 December 2009, 11:19 AM

The 16610 was my first. It's a classic... I like the SD as well. Still haven't warmed up to the LV, but maybe one of these days...

Really, try them on and see which one calls out to you. Good luck with your decision, and post pics when you make the choice.

SSD · 27 December 2009, 12:29 PM

I gotta go with the 16610! The icon, soon to be succeeded and pass into legend.

Andad · 27 December 2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Especially if the first owner was one bald bugger in NZ!!

And it was a real one.

View Poll Results: What Rolex should be my first!
Sea-Dweller 16600	12	22.64%
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Sub-Mariner 16610	29	54.72%
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27 December 2009, 08:35 AM	#1
jlopicco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Joe Location: New Jersey Watch: 16610LV Posts: 147	Which Sub should I get? I'm very close to picking up my first Rolex and want to start my collection off right, with a Sub of some sort. I personally love the Sub ND, however being my first Rolex I kind of want to have the date function. I have a very good relationship with a jeweler who can get gray market Rolex's and will pretty much match or beat any price I find. I love the 16600 because it looks similar to the ND but still has the date complication. The 16610LV with a black bezel insert is probably my second favorite because of the maxi dial. But he has a brand new 16610 for $5,200 usd and I think that is a pretty good price, and am led to believe its too good to pass up. Do you think I should go for the deal on the regular Sub or get one of the other two that I like probably a little better. Also, what are good starting prices to throw at him to begin negotiating for the other two, both of which he would have to locate and get for me? Any help is appreciated and would love to get anyone's input!

27 December 2009, 10:33 AM	#7
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	16610!! End of story!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

27 December 2009, 10:42 AM	#10
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,475	Sea dweller is the way to go. __________________ E

27 December 2009, 10:50 AM	#12
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Can't go wrong with any of these, but the classic 16610 is the best pick imho... Cheers __________________

27 December 2009, 08:39 AM	#2
RolexPete32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Peter Location: Canada Watch: You know... Rolex Posts: 1,520	20% off MSRP brand new (not second hand) is a good deal. I have the sub LV and enjoy it. Some will say you can score up to 30% off MSRP? The best I could ever do was 20% plus an additional $150.00 off SS Rolex watches.

27 December 2009, 08:57 AM	#3
Playdrv4me "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: STL Watch: the 4Sale section! Posts: 201	Best discount I've ever seen on a brand new one was 22% off MSRP at a jewelry store that was CLOSING in wichita (Barrier's... a shame). I purchased ONE new Rolex AT MSR however and vowed never to do that again if I can at all avoid it. Had that "new" in the wrapper experience once and now I can say I've been there and done that! Mine was as a matter of fact a 16610LV which was sold soon after. General rule of thumb with something like a Rolex... If you aren't getting the one you ACTUALLY WANT... Then why bother? Have him find the one you truly desire and enjoy it. Personally, I love the maxi-dial, but would get a 116710 GMT 2 to get all the latest updates or wait for the new sub. The new bracelet alone is worth it to me.

27 December 2009, 09:24 AM	#4
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	sounds like a very good deal to me. I'd double check the warranty since you are getting it from a grey dealer if I were you. Good luck!

27 December 2009, 09:40 AM	#5
PhilM "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Phil Location: London Watch: Sea-Dweller Posts: 1,765	Get the one you want, which sounds to me like it should be the SD

27 December 2009, 10:32 AM	#6
erock Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Erick Location: US Watch: 16220 DJ Posts: 109	davidsw has a 16610lv for 5200 in the for sale section. maybe you should check that one out and then get the black bezel insert for it since that is what you really want an it would be the same price as what you are looking at. Id be sure to get exactly what you truly want and not compromise for something that is not all you are looling for

27 December 2009, 10:36 AM	#9
Sonny Crockett Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Fla Watch: TT Yacht Master Posts: 309	Seems logical to get the Sub LV and buy a black bezel to swap whenever you like. it will be like having 2 watches, no one will know it's the same watch but you, plus you get the maxi dial, No brainer I would buy the LV DavidSw has for sale V series too....

27 December 2009, 10:54 AM	#13
jlopicco "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Joe Location: New Jersey Watch: 16610LV Posts: 147	I think I am leaning towards the LV and finding a black bezel insert. Are the inserts hard to come by?

27 December 2009, 11:01 AM	#14
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	They grow on trees. ;-) Seriously. You will have to buy one on TRF or perhaps your jeweler can get an authentic one. An AD in the US will likely not want to do the job since the black does not officially go with the LV.

27 December 2009, 11:19 AM	#15
JimC "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Jim Location: Anchorage, Alaska Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,188	The 16610 was my first. It's a classic... I like the SD as well. Still haven't warmed up to the LV, but maybe one of these days... Really, try them on and see which one calls out to you. Good luck with your decision, and post pics when you make the choice. __________________ My collection, in order of acquisition: 16610 Sub (Z serial) 16710 GMT-Master II (Coke and Pepsi) (Z serial) 16570 Explorer II (White) (F serial) 116660 Deepsea (V serial) 79270 Tudor Tiger Chrono (red dial)

27 December 2009, 12:29 PM	#16
SSD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jamie Location: Georgia Watch: Stainless Sub Date Posts: 3,023	I gotta go with the 16610! The icon, soon to be succeeded and pass into legend. __________________ SUBMARINER OWNERS' CLUB ESTABLISHED 1953 TRF Member # 5464

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