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Lost Texan · 12 February 2010, 12:53 PM

My AD told me today that he anticipated a US $6k to $6.5k retail. Are there any AD's on TRF that will be selling them once they hit the market?

JUSTROLEXES · 12 February 2010, 01:11 PM

I am sure lots of guys will be selling them but no ADs

, and you'llbe paying top $$$ at first

sakuraba · 12 February 2010, 02:07 PM

A lot of sellers on TRF have been able to acquire and sell new relesase watches before, so I guess the ceramic sub shouldn't be any different.

As Tony said, be prepared to pay a premium if you want to be one of the first.

sbux · 12 February 2010, 02:09 PM

impossible to lbe listed lower than gmt2c....at least 7k...

walds11 · 12 February 2010, 08:39 PM

Your AD is way off. The MSRP of the 16610 is $6,000 and MSRP of the 116710 is $7,000. I bet you the MSRP of the new Sub will be a tad over $7,000

padi56 · 12 February 2010, 09:01 PM

Thats if they do hit the market.

Singslinger · 12 February 2010, 09:04 PM

If recent history is any guide, then if and when a new S/S Ceramic Sub is released, it'll command a premium over MRSP during the first months of issue.

This was what happened with the Daytona, Sub LV, the GMT IIc, the Milgauss GV and the Deepsea and I'm sure it'll happen again, especially since the Sub is such an iconic Rolex.

It'll be interesting to see how much that premium will be, and how long it'll last.

Clogger · 12 February 2010, 09:38 PM

I would have thought it will sit in the middle ref price between the current Sub and the new GMTIIc ie $6500-$6800. This would seem logical to me as the GMT does have the added benifit of a complication. Guess only time will tell.

HL65 · 12 February 2010, 10:00 PM

I agree---My guess is it will go for mid 7k's retail. Looking forward to seeing it. I still love the old look myself though!

chef19 · 12 February 2010, 11:34 PM

It will definitely be a tad over $7k.

Probably $7200-7400.

BASSETHOUNDS · 12 February 2010, 11:43 PM

I can't see why the new sub ( if and when it comes on the market ) should be more expensive then the 116710LN unless it has the glidelock . The 3186 movement has an extra complication compared to the 3135 and the GMT2c has polished center links ( one thing I hope the eventual new Sub will not have )
My way of looking at it . Nothing more

hennabav · 12 February 2010, 11:58 PM

Well, I heard from my AD that Rolex will be expecting a price increase around March 15th-18th. So if there really is one, my guess is probably the current price for the 116710LN will be around $8000 or so since there has been no price increase for a while already. So, this would allow the sub to fit right in around $7500.

sbux · 13 February 2010, 01:56 AM

but the old sub is more expensive than old gmt2 .. and u can get more discount on gmt 2 than sub.

kcmo · 13 February 2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan1965

I agree---My guess is it will go for mid 7k's retail. Looking forward to seeing it. I still love the old look myself though!

X2

Clogger · 13 February 2010, 03:55 AM

$7500 is way to much for a Sub IMHO, that being the case I will start to look else where.

JJ Irani · 13 February 2010, 03:59 AM

The MSRP for the current SS Sub-date 16610 is US$6,000..........so we can expect over $7K for the new Ceramic model if and when it arrives.

JJ

Naples09 · 13 February 2010, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hennabav

... my guess is probably the current price for the 116710LN will be around $8000 or so since there has been no price increase for a while already. So, this would allow the sub to fit right in around $7500.

I can't see a 14.2% increase on the 116710. It retails for $7K right now and you think a $1K increase is possible? I don't see it.

If the price increase happens I think it will be more in the 5-8% range and the new sub will be in the $7500 - $7800 range.

If no price increase happens, I think the new sub will be around $7200.

crazycarlitos · 13 February 2010, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Clogger

$7500 is way to much for a Sub IMHO, that being the case I will start to look else where.

lol, sure u will...

lets not judge until we see the final product and the MSRP

i am sure once some time passes, we can get it at a reasonable price from sellers here at TRF.

sbux · 13 February 2010, 04:50 AM

how do u explain dssd for 9250 then? remember its a luxury item ...cannot be judged from cost alone....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clogger

$7500 is way to much for a Sub IMHO, that being the case I will start to look else where.

Clogger · 13 February 2010, 05:01 AM

Your right I will probably just stump up the cash

However the DSSD is a different beast to a Sub, although I would not buy one I don't really think it's over priced as there aint much in the market that can compare to one. Dam who would have thought I would give praise to a DSSD.

DSSD owners don't quote me it's a one off. ;-)

ParisDakarBmw · 13 February 2010, 05:04 AM

Good time to pick up the older stock at a discount.

Lost Texan · 13 February 2010, 06:54 AM

Where can we get them at a discount? Are the AD's discounting a possibly soon to be discontinued model? I would think they might be demanding a higher price. Just asking.

Tools · 13 February 2010, 11:27 AM

I'm not sure how long some of you have been following Rolex...???

The Sub has always been priced more than the GMT... The GMT IIc was priced at almost 2 thousand above the 16710 to pass the Sub, but only because it was the first ceramic.. The TT Subs go for more than the TT Gmt's, so certainly, when the Sub ceramic comes out, it will almost certainly be priced above the GMT....

And if the GMT gets a price increase before the Sub hits the shelves, then yes... You will be looking at a Sub close to or more than 8 thousand...

sparky_magoo · 13 February 2010, 11:37 AM

I bought my 16610 from an AD last month for $5850.

B. Doggy · 13 February 2010, 11:49 AM

It will be expensive. This is one that I will never understand why Rolex feels the need to "improve." To each their own though..

Clogger · 13 February 2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tools

I'm not sure how long some of you have been following Rolex...???

The Sub has always been priced more than the GMT... The GMT IIc was priced at almost 2 thousand above the 16710 to pass the Sub, but only because it was the first ceramic.. The TT Subs go for more than the TT Gmt's, so certainly, when the Sub ceramic comes out, it will almost certainly be priced above the GMT....

And if the GMT gets a price increase before the Sub hits the shelves, then yes... You will be looking at a Sub close to or more than 8 thousand...

Off course Tools you are quite right ref the GMT to Sub pricing I didn't take that into account.

$8000 for a Sub though? I fear you may be actually right. Glad I got my 16610 then

Speed · 13 February 2010, 02:18 PM

There will be lots of 16610's for sometime to come.

No worries re: the new Sub. THAT will be around for a long time as well - IF - it gets launched!

12 February 2010, 12:53 PM	#1
Lost Texan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dallas Watch: TTSubC & DSSD Posts: 73	Question regarding new SS Ceramic Sub My AD told me today that he anticipated a US $6k to $6.5k retail. Are there any AD's on TRF that will be selling them once they hit the market? Last edited by Lost Texan; 12 February 2010 at 12:56 PM.. Reason: Grammar

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12 February 2010, 08:39 PM	#5
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,658	Your AD is way off. The MSRP of the 16610 is $6,000 and MSRP of the 116710 is $7,000. I bet you the MSRP of the new Sub will be a tad over $7,000 __________________ Adam

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12 February 2010, 10:00 PM	#9
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,986	I agree---My guess is it will go for mid 7k's retail. Looking forward to seeing it. I still love the old look myself though! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

12 February 2010, 02:07 PM	#3
sakuraba "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Jib Location: SJ, California Watch: sun dial Posts: 8,189	A lot of sellers on TRF have been able to acquire and sell new relesase watches before, so I guess the ceramic sub shouldn't be any different. As Tony said, be prepared to pay a premium if you want to be one of the first.

12 February 2010, 02:09 PM	#4
sbux "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 303	impossible to lbe listed lower than gmt2c....at least 7k...

12 February 2010, 09:04 PM	#7
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	If recent history is any guide, then if and when a new S/S Ceramic Sub is released, it'll command a premium over MRSP during the first months of issue. This was what happened with the Daytona, Sub LV, the GMT IIc, the Milgauss GV and the Deepsea and I'm sure it'll happen again, especially since the Sub is such an iconic Rolex. It'll be interesting to see how much that premium will be, and how long it'll last.

12 February 2010, 09:38 PM	#8
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	I would have thought it will sit in the middle ref price between the current Sub and the new GMTIIc ie $6500-$6800. This would seem logical to me as the GMT does have the added benifit of a complication. Guess only time will tell.

12 February 2010, 11:34 PM	#10
chef19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: florida Posts: 72	It will definitely be a tad over $7k. Probably $7200-7400.

12 February 2010, 11:43 PM	#11
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	I can't see why the new sub ( if and when it comes on the market ) should be more expensive then the 116710LN unless it has the glidelock . The 3186 movement has an extra complication compared to the 3135 and the GMT2c has polished center links ( one thing I hope the eventual new Sub will not have ) My way of looking at it . Nothing more

12 February 2010, 11:58 PM	#12
hennabav Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jon Location: New England Watch: --Rolex-- Posts: 2,391	Well, I heard from my AD that Rolex will be expecting a price increase around March 15th-18th. So if there really is one, my guess is probably the current price for the 116710LN will be around $8000 or so since there has been no price increase for a while already. So, this would allow the sub to fit right in around $7500.

13 February 2010, 01:56 AM	#13
sbux "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 303	but the old sub is more expensive than old gmt2 .. and u can get more discount on gmt 2 than sub.

13 February 2010, 03:55 AM	#15
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	$7500 is way to much for a Sub IMHO, that being the case I will start to look else where.

13 February 2010, 03:59 AM	#16
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	The MSRP for the current SS Sub-date 16610 is US$6,000..........so we can expect over $7K for the new Ceramic model if and when it arrives. JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

13 February 2010, 05:01 AM	#20
Clogger Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SE Asia Watch: SS Sub Date Posts: 431	Your right I will probably just stump up the cash However the DSSD is a different beast to a Sub, although I would not buy one I don't really think it's over priced as there aint much in the market that can compare to one. Dam who would have thought I would give praise to a DSSD. DSSD owners don't quote me it's a one off. ;-)

13 February 2010, 05:04 AM	#21
ParisDakarBmw Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Paul Location: New Haven, CT Watch: 116610 Sub-C Posts: 6,552	Good time to pick up the older stock at a discount.

13 February 2010, 06:54 AM	#22
Lost Texan "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Dallas Watch: TTSubC & DSSD Posts: 73	Where can we get them at a discount? Are the AD's discounting a possibly soon to be discontinued model? I would think they might be demanding a higher price. Just asking.

13 February 2010, 11:27 AM	#23
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,490	I'm not sure how long some of you have been following Rolex...??? The Sub has always been priced more than the GMT... The GMT IIc was priced at almost 2 thousand above the 16710 to pass the Sub, but only because it was the first ceramic.. The TT Subs go for more than the TT Gmt's, so certainly, when the Sub ceramic comes out, it will almost certainly be priced above the GMT.... And if the GMT gets a price increase before the Sub hits the shelves, then yes... You will be looking at a Sub close to or more than 8 thousand... __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

13 February 2010, 11:37 AM	#24
sparky_magoo Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: RENO Watch: Deep Sea Posts: 64	I bought my 16610 from an AD last month for $5850.

13 February 2010, 11:49 AM	#25
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	It will be expensive. This is one that I will never understand why Rolex feels the need to "improve." To each their own though.. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

13 February 2010, 02:18 PM	#27
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,706	There will be lots of 16610's for sometime to come. No worries re: the new Sub. THAT will be around for a long time as well - IF - it gets launched!

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