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TurboWatch · 9 March 2010, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

It's a watch... hand it over, kick the piece of crap in the nuts if I can, if not - lick my wounds and call the insurance company - then the AD!

There aren't many material things worth a knife in the guts or a gun to the head for.

-Pete

Very smart

spuds · 9 March 2010, 05:25 PM

I'm a big guy & I've had more than my share of fisticuffs over the years, but if the mugger had a gun or a knife I'd hand my Rolex over in a second......
especially if my family was with me.

FFS it's a watch not your kids we're talking about.....
& I've gotta say I'm disappointed by all these "I always have one hand on my g*n" type statements.

..... & I'm happy that I live in England.

JJ Irani · 9 March 2010, 05:57 PM

First show him my hairy chest.............and while he's still in a daze, let my sheep loose on him!!

bayerische · 9 March 2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dr_bypass

I've heard that....Is it really that safe over there???

Wouldn't have to worry about that in Finland either.

marcinthemiddle · 9 March 2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

First show him my hairy chest.............and while he's still in a daze, let my sheep loose on him!!

Start with the arms, they're hairy enough...use the chest as a last resort!

Nicko · 9 March 2010, 06:27 PM

I try to not flash it much, but if I was mugged and depending on the circumstances I might give it to him or I might not. If he's armed with anything more than a knife, it's his, if not then their might be a bit of a fuss. I haven't used any Taekwondo in quite some time and I doubt I remember it so I'd be prudent.

But, here in Southern Spain I would never have to worry about that, I think the only time I would worry is if I went back to visit my dad in Hartford CT, and there my dad and I go around together and he has a concealed carry permit. In downtown Hartford I wouldn't wear my Rolex out the front door unless I was carrying.

JP500 · 9 March 2010, 07:01 PM

For what it's worth, I'd imagine legal fees would be several thousand dollars -- even in a justifiable homicide -- if you were to kill a robber in self defense.

However, I would not give it up.

JP500 · 9 March 2010, 07:02 PM

Because as others said, who is to say they will let you go once they have the goods.

jameshe · 9 March 2010, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteNYC13

It's a watch... hand it over, kick the piece of crap in the nuts if I can, if not - lick my wounds and call the insurance company - then the AD!

There aren't many material things worth a knife in the guts or a gun to the head for.

-Pete

ABSOLUTELY

I think it is in modern day culture to say "you better not" or "whup his ass" or "get my massive pistol" - but ultimately, you're as likely to end up dead or in hospital as the offender is. Would you risk your life if someone tried to steal your TV at gunpoint? You would just claim on the insurance (I would hope!)

Difference in cultures I guess in some cases in the US vs the UK (where guns arent legalised)

spuds · 9 March 2010, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jameshelliwell

....Difference in cultures I guess in some cases in the US vs the UK (where guns arent legalised)

thankfully.

tattooedfagin · 9 March 2010, 09:32 PM

have to say that stupidity & an immense amount of stubbornness would make me fight....work far too many hours to give it up to some scroat

Alcan · 9 March 2010, 09:44 PM

I'm 61 now, couldn't imagine not making it past 71 and not seeing the grand kids growing up for something as insignificant in the big scheme of things as a wrist watch.

Jackxv · 9 March 2010, 09:47 PM

If there's a knife involved I'd try to kick some ass, when there's a gun I'll just give it up.

Guns outrun fist, nobody can outsmart a bullit. Even with a vest it'll take you down.

Jack

hng · 9 March 2010, 09:48 PM

Run like hell.

DWdrummer · 9 March 2010, 09:52 PM

Well the bottom line is this. If you try to take anything of mine by force, wallet, cell phone, watch, car, then I view you as an immediate and lethal threat. In the state of Florida, the law views you as one too. I can very reasonably be in fear for my own safety or those around me.

The only way to deal with a lethal threat is with appropriate force.

I dont want to kill a man over a watch or my wallet, but I will do what I can to make sure he does not kill ME for those things either.

That sounds harsh I know, but the world is harsh at times.

I hope it never comes down to that, if it does I am ready mentally and with my equipment. I have gone thirty one years without having such a thing occur. By staying in the nice parts of town and not drawing attention to yourself you reduce your risk dramatically. If I HAVE to go to or through a bad part of the city I cover up my jewelry and get out of the area as fast as I can. Simple as that. If all else fails and they target me, they picked the wrong guy.

rolexsubdate · 9 March 2010, 10:28 PM

well no punk ASS POS is gonna point anything at me and take anything of mine... I will protect it with my life ....you gotta stand up for your self and not get sodomized by anyone ....be a man for once ...you want my watch, you gotta pull the trigger or shove that blade through my heart.... I am gonna be dead BUT you are gonna rot in jail for the rest of your even though I'll be dead, I am gonna leave you unworthy of this life .... so like George Bush said :"Bring it ON!!!"

Gerry · 9 March 2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle L

Hand it over man, you can always get a new one.

Exactly right! My insurance will cover theft and robbery.

Evan614 · 9 March 2010, 10:48 PM

As I hand it over... I would say "Do you really think it is real? wow I at least fooled someone. go ahead take the watch, but I don't think the pawn shop will give you more than ten bucks for it"
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If someone pulled a gun or knife on me. I would do the international sign for robbery. Raise both my hand high in the sky-- hoping someone sees it and calls for help.

everose · 9 March 2010, 10:54 PM

I don't know who imagines some cities are some kind of crime free Utopia.....THEY DO NOT EXIST ANYMORE in my experience.....it is just the same as with all cities around the world....there are safer areas than others........that DOES NOT preclude something bad happening in a safe area!!!!!!....they are just relatively safer than the other places.

Find out where the no-go places are as soon as you arrive.....if not before!

If i am not 100% sure of the safety of the environment i will be moving in, then i leave ALL my valuables at home........which is 99.9% of the time!!!!!

THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH IT ......IS TO NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AT ALL!!!!!!

The safes in hotels are often not insured for high value items......check it out.
The room safes usually have an over-ride code for employees/managers.I don't even want to risk that.

.....BUT.....if it does happen co-operate 100%....its only a watch!!!!!

I know a person who unfortunately had THEIR OWN weapon used against them!!!
This is the real world...not a movie!!!!!

IMO..... it is just not worth it....Just my 2c

AWATCH · 9 March 2010, 10:57 PM

Its hard to say what one would do in a given situation until it actually happens to you, I carry a weapon and would not hesitate to use it, but if it came down to losing a watch or my life I would gladly give up my watch...

snow_rocks · 9 March 2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ObscureLight

What would you do if your rolex is threatened?

Are you serious? You either have priority issues, or you think the lot of us do, and by some of the posts, you are probably right!

Quote:

Originally Posted by htc8p

dont bring it or at least wear it to shady places in the first place??? be prudent

What if it's sunny?

Seriously folks, it's just a damn watch!

Promoting countermeasures (guns, or rib ticklers) is just plain stupid, even from a LEO!

I do like the run like hell response!

Mystro · 9 March 2010, 11:08 PM

Hand the watch over. Its just a watch for goodness sake. Its insured anyway.

robertneville · 9 March 2010, 11:15 PM

it would depend on the situation. more than likely i would hand it over. however, you people who assume your insurance would cover it, i used to be a public adjuster and you better double check your homeowners policies. you MAY need a specific rider to cover a high dollar jewelry item... most jewelry and art, just like cash is only covered to a certain specified amount.

Kokyuryoku · 9 March 2010, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dr_bypass

I've heard that....Is it really that safe over there???

I've never had a problem in over 10 years.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

First show him my hairy chest.............and while he's still in a daze, let my sheep loose on him!!

That's right JJ

. Never leave home without your guard sheep

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcinthemiddle

Start with the arms, they're hairy enough...use the chest as a last resort!

marcinthemiddle · 9 March 2010, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko

I try to not flash it much, but if I was mugged and depending on the circumstances I might give it to him or I might not. If he's armed with anything more than a knife, it's his, if not then their might be a bit of a fuss. I haven't used any Taekwondo in quite some time and I doubt I remember it so I'd be prudent.

But, here in Southern Spain I would never have to worry about that, I think the only time I would worry is if I went back to visit my dad in Hartford CT, and there my dad and I go around together and he has a concealed carry permit. In downtown Hartford I wouldn't wear my Rolex out the front door unless I was carrying.

x2 about Hartford....that city's shadier than downtown Bridgeport...

9 March 2010, 05:25 PM	#32
spuds "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Essex, UK Watch: West Ham! COYI!! Posts: 7,941	I'm a big guy & I've had more than my share of fisticuffs over the years, but if the mugger had a gun or a knife I'd hand my Rolex over in a second...... especially if my family was with me. FFS it's a watch not your kids we're talking about..... & I've gotta say I'm disappointed by all these "I always have one hand on my gn"* type statements. ..... & I'm happy that I live in England. __________________ Onwards & Upwards Rodders...... Onwards & Upwards. Life is not about how fast you can run or how high you can climb........... It's about how well you can bounce!! TRF HALL OF FAME JANUARY 2010

9 March 2010, 05:57 PM	#33
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,317	First show him my hairy chest.............and while he's still in a daze, let my sheep loose on him!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

9 March 2010, 09:32 PM	#41
tattooedfagin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Chad Location: the neighbourhood Watch: 1680 Red Posts: 2,262	have to say that stupidity & an immense amount of stubbornness would make me fight....work far too many hours to give it up to some scroat __________________ SS Sub Date (F) DSSD (V) Red Sub (Mk4) TRF Hall of Fame

9 March 2010, 09:44 PM	#42
Alcan "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	I'm 61 now, couldn't imagine not making it past 71 and not seeing the grand kids growing up for something as insignificant in the big scheme of things as a wrist watch. __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

9 March 2010, 09:47 PM	#43
Jackxv "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 969	Chance? If there's a knife involved I'd try to kick some ass, when there's a gun I'll just give it up. Guns outrun fist, nobody can outsmart a bullit. Even with a vest it'll take you down. Jack

9 March 2010, 06:27 PM	#36
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	I try to not flash it much, but if I was mugged and depending on the circumstances I might give it to him or I might not. If he's armed with anything more than a knife, it's his, if not then their might be a bit of a fuss. I haven't used any Taekwondo in quite some time and I doubt I remember it so I'd be prudent. But, here in Southern Spain I would never have to worry about that, I think the only time I would worry is if I went back to visit my dad in Hartford CT, and there my dad and I go around together and he has a concealed carry permit. In downtown Hartford I wouldn't wear my Rolex out the front door unless I was carrying.

9 March 2010, 07:01 PM	#37
JP500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 221	For what it's worth, I'd imagine legal fees would be several thousand dollars -- even in a justifiable homicide -- if you were to kill a robber in self defense. However, I would not give it up.

9 March 2010, 07:02 PM	#38
JP500 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Boston Posts: 221	Because as others said, who is to say they will let you go once they have the goods.

9 March 2010, 09:48 PM	#44
hng "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: HaNgat Location: Jakarta Watch: Sports Rolex Posts: 648	Run like hell. __________________ Cartier Tank / Suunto Stinger / 16014 / 16610LV / PAM 233 / 116520 / 14060M / 16710 / Omega Constellation

9 March 2010, 09:52 PM	#45
DWdrummer Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 954	Well the bottom line is this. If you try to take anything of mine by force, wallet, cell phone, watch, car, then I view you as an immediate and lethal threat. In the state of Florida, the law views you as one too. I can very reasonably be in fear for my own safety or those around me. The only way to deal with a lethal threat is with appropriate force. I dont want to kill a man over a watch or my wallet, but I will do what I can to make sure he does not kill ME for those things either. That sounds harsh I know, but the world is harsh at times. I hope it never comes down to that, if it does I am ready mentally and with my equipment. I have gone thirty one years without having such a thing occur. By staying in the nice parts of town and not drawing attention to yourself you reduce your risk dramatically. If I HAVE to go to or through a bad part of the city I cover up my jewelry and get out of the area as fast as I can. Simple as that. If all else fails and they target me, they picked the wrong guy.

9 March 2010, 10:28 PM	#46
rolexsubdate Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Moon Posts: 1,238	well no punk ASS POS is gonna point anything at me and take anything of mine... I will protect it with my life ....you gotta stand up for your self and not get sodomized by anyone ....be a man for once ...you want my watch, you gotta pull the trigger or shove that blade through my heart.... I am gonna be dead BUT you are gonna rot in jail for the rest of your even though I'll be dead, I am gonna leave you unworthy of this life .... so like George Bush said :"Bring it ON!!!"

9 March 2010, 10:48 PM	#48
Evan614 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Buckeye Nation Watch: out 4 Panerai bug Posts: 414	As I hand it over... I would say "Do you really think it is real? wow I at least fooled someone. go ahead take the watch, but I don't think the pawn shop will give you more than ten bucks for it" --------- If someone pulled a gun or knife on me. I would do the international sign for robbery. Raise both my hand high in the sky-- hoping someone sees it and calls for help.

9 March 2010, 10:54 PM	#49
everose Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: World Citizen Posts: 593	I don't know who imagines some cities are some kind of crime free Utopia.....THEY DO NOT EXIST ANYMORE in my experience.....it is just the same as with all cities around the world....there are safer areas than others........that DOES NOT preclude something bad happening in a safe area!!!!!!....they are just relatively safer than the other places. Find out where the no-go places are as soon as you arrive.....if not before! If i am not 100% sure of the safety of the environment i will be moving in, then i leave ALL my valuables at home........which is 99.9% of the time!!!!! THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH IT ......IS TO NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AT ALL!!!!!! The safes in hotels are often not insured for high value items......check it out. The room safes usually have an over-ride code for employees/managers.I don't even want to risk that. .....BUT.....if it does happen co-operate 100%....its only a watch!!!!! I know a person who unfortunately had THEIR OWN weapon used against them!!! This is the real world...not a movie!!!!! IMO..... it is just not worth it....Just my 2c

9 March 2010, 10:57 PM	#50
AWATCH "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: al Location: GEORGIA Watch: Explorer II Posts: 1,759	Its hard to say what one would do in a given situation until it actually happens to you, I carry a weapon and would not hesitate to use it, but if it came down to losing a watch or my life I would gladly give up my watch... __________________ Al

9 March 2010, 11:08 PM	#52
Mystro 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: The Mystro ;) Location: Central Pa. Posts: 15,891	Hand the watch over. Its just a watch for goodness sake. Its insured anyway.

9 March 2010, 11:15 PM	#53
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	it would depend on the situation. more than likely i would hand it over. however, you people who assume your insurance would cover it, i used to be a public adjuster and you better double check your homeowners policies. you MAY need a specific rider to cover a high dollar jewelry item... most jewelry and art, just like cash is only covered to a certain specified amount. __________________ Motocross is life!

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