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Old 16 September 2010, 04:39 PM   #1
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When are we allowed to push the pushers on the Daytona?

It dawned on me today.... I really don't know when we're OK to push the pushers on the Daytona.

So I understand that we're not supposed to push the pushers when underwater (though a french diver on TRF has disputed this)...

... but what about after we dampen the watch but we are no longer underwater? What about right after we wash our watch/hands?

How long after the watch is wet are we OK to push the pushers?

What's your experience with this?

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Old 16 September 2010, 04:44 PM   #2
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Don't operate underwater, thats about it.
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Really? So if the watch is soaking wet but not underwater, we're in the clear?
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is it save to press the reset button when the timer has already been started????

will the chronograph explode?
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Old 16 September 2010, 04:53 PM   #5
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will the chronograph explode?
Only if you push both pushers at the same time!!
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Old 16 September 2010, 05:01 PM   #6
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I can only comment so far as I don't have a Daytona.....but I do have Tudor Chrono's.....I think it's safe to assume that the pushers and seals work the same for both....

If you press the reset button when the chrono function is running it simply does nothing....it has nothing to engage with until the chrono is halted by a second press of the start/stop pusher...

As for water ingress....as soon as you are under water pressure increases with depth, this pressure could force water past any seals, I don't think it would be wise to attempt usage of the chrono function under water, be it a few inches or many feet....but water on the surface of your watch (after washing for instance) has no "extra" pressure to force it past any seals......it sould be ok, however I would dry it off first if you have the option....I do not think I would worry too much about using it during a rain storm......I think the seals would be splash proof at least....if you are not sure then the best idea is don't use it unless you know it's dry.
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Old 16 September 2010, 05:55 PM   #7
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I can only comment so far as I don't have a Daytona.....but I do have Tudor Chrono's.....I think it's safe to assume that the pushers and seals work the same for both....

If you press the reset button when the chrono function is running it simply does nothing....it has nothing to engage with until the chrono is halted by a second press of the start/stop pusher...

As for water ingress....as soon as you are under water pressure increases with depth, this pressure could force water past any seals, I don't think it would be wise to attempt usage of the chrono function under water, be it a few inches or many feet....but water on the surface of your watch (after washing for instance) has no "extra" pressure to force it past any seals......it sould be ok, however I would dry it off first if you have the option....I do not think I would worry too much about using it during a rain storm......I think the seals would be splash proof at least....if you are not sure then the best idea is don't use it unless you know it's dry.
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excellent myth busted!
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Old 16 September 2010, 06:35 PM   #9
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Right on the money, Bill
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Old 16 September 2010, 07:04 PM   #10
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Here's a chrono whose buttons you can push underwater:

http://www.sinnwatches.com/proddetail.php?prod=si008

To quote: "This watch represents a breakthrough on the testing of chronograph functions at great depths. The watch is not only rated water resistant to 1,000 meters, the pushers and other chronograph functions have also been tested to that depth. Each Sinn U1000 S watch ships with a certificate from the international testing lab Germanischen Lloyd certifying these tests. Sinn has developed a special system of double Viton® seals and other engineering processes to achieve this certification. While building a 1,000 meter dive watch is not in itself unique, building a diver's chronograph whose functions have been tested at that depth is an achievement.''
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So the consensus is that a damp Daytona is impervious to push the chrono buttons but underwater is a nono.
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Old 16 September 2010, 07:32 PM   #12
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I am assuming that it's a hypothetical question anyway...unless you are applying it to a washer of cars who wants to time each wash using his Daytona and has not got the time to dry his hands after each wash because he needs to stop his chrono to get an accurate record......I would not press my pushers under water (of any depth) and I would not risk doing it if the watch were wet...that's just me....I don't think you could do it by accident (that's why they screw down).......so when exactly would it happen or more importantly why would you want to do it anyway?
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Old 16 September 2010, 07:56 PM   #13
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^^^

Because I got out of a jetski today and I wanted to stop the timer that was timing the 1 hour run... But I wasn't sure if it was a safe thing to do.
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Old 16 September 2010, 08:24 PM   #14
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Ah ha......then it makes complete sense....not sure if I would be keen to jet ski with a Daytona on but hey, it's your watch.....I think it would have probably been ok but essentially if you had started the chrono at the beginning of your run then a quick glance at it at the end would have told you how long you'd been out there even without stopping it...assuming you only needed to know to the nearest minute or so......you could have stopped and re-set it once you were all dried up
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Old 17 September 2010, 04:31 AM   #15
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Ah ha......then it makes complete sense....not sure if I would be keen to jet ski with a Daytona on but hey, it's your watch.....I think it would have probably been ok but essentially if you had started the chrono at the beginning of your run then a quick glance at it at the end would have told you how long you'd been out there even without stopping it...assuming you only needed to know to the nearest minute or so......you could have stopped and re-set it once you were all dried up
Yeah... That's sorta what I did. I was off the ski and back on the floating dock when I was hit with this conundrum. I was like.... Exactly how water resistant are the pushers? And what kind of fail safes are implemented within the pusher system for normal damp daytonas?

What I got from our group of enthusiasts and experts is that the pusher system has an o ring that does not allow water to enter if no pressure is exerted into the water resistance system... Meaning it should be ok when damp. But the moral of the story is that a dry daytona is better than wet one.

I dried mine and left it going. I deserted the pushers on the way home.
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Old 17 September 2010, 05:47 AM   #16
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Here's a chrono whose buttons you can push underwater:

http://www.sinnwatches.com/proddetail.php?prod=si008

To quote: "This watch represents a breakthrough on the testing of chronograph functions at great depths. The watch is not only rated water resistant to 1,000 meters, the pushers and other chronograph functions have also been tested to that depth. Each Sinn U1000 S watch ships with a certificate from the international testing lab Germanischen Lloyd certifying these tests. Sinn has developed a special system of double Viton® seals and other engineering processes to achieve this certification. While building a 1,000 meter dive watch is not in itself unique, building a diver's chronograph whose functions have been tested at that depth is an achievement.''
Some Breitling models also, they incorporate a magnetic connection between movement and pusher button and not mechanical which allows for a better seal
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Old 17 September 2010, 05:51 AM   #17
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Wait... you mean you can PUSH those buttons?
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Old 17 September 2010, 03:45 PM   #19
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Interesting. I can see how someone would wear a Daytona while swimming. I wear my Yachtmaster at the beach and in the pool, and use the bezel to time how long I have been in the sun (so I don't get a sunburn).
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What about while jogging

It seems like an obvious use for this watch would be to time workouts, but I hesitate to unscrew the pushers while I am sweaty. This could potentially be more than just a damp watch, depending on the length of the workout. Does it seem like a bad idea to use the pushers under these conditions?
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It seems like an obvious use for this watch would be to time workouts, but I hesitate to unscrew the pushers while I am sweaty. This could potentially be more than just a damp watch, depending on the length of the workout. Does it seem like a bad idea to use the pushers under these conditions?
Good question as I have worked up a sweat before with my Daytona...
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Old 17 September 2010, 05:13 PM   #22
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If you are worried about pushing buttons while the watch is wet - don't do it

If you want to think of yourself as living dangerously - press away while wet/damp

I would not recommend pressing under water.....it's guaranteed to 100m....as long as the buttons are all screwed down and remain that way whilst under water.....
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Such a delicate watch...
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Such a delicate watch...
....and yet so rugged, like the rest of them.....used correctly they will stand up to an incredible amount of rough treatment and never let you down.....
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If you're not going to have another dive with it recently, try to treat it as the steps below before push any pushers, seem a stupid way but reasonable and usefully at home.
1.) Open the tap to rinse the whole watch for around 30 seconds to 1 minute.
2.) Get 1L distill water to soak the watch 15~20 minutes, I'm not suggested to use any soap or chemicals IMO.
3.) Use tissue to suck all the water out or wrap it dry by smooth cloth.
4.) Place somewhere safe to dry it up.
5.) Place in an airtight box with strong dehumidizer for 2~4 days, much longer much better, there's so many hinges or gaps need time to dry.
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I can only comment so far as I don't have a Daytona.....but I do have Tudor Chrono's.....I think it's safe to assume that the pushers and seals work the same for both....

If you press the reset button when the chrono function is running it simply does nothing....it has nothing to engage with until the chrono is halted by a second press of the start/stop pusher...

As for water ingress....as soon as you are under water pressure increases with depth, this pressure could force water past any seals, I don't think it would be wise to attempt usage of the chrono function under water, be it a few inches or many feet....but water on the surface of your watch (after washing for instance) has no "extra" pressure to force it past any seals......it sould be ok, however I would dry it off first if you have the option....I do not think I would worry too much about using it during a rain storm......I think the seals would be splash proof at least....if you are not sure then the best idea is don't use it unless you know it's dry.


thanks for solving a problem i had...i just got my new daytona mop from jon todd at www.santblanc.com.

i could not get it to reset and i thought there was something wrong....my bad i didn't stop it first....after stoping the sweeper...the reset works perfectly.


on another note....jon at santblanc was fantastic...the watch was packed and shipped to Australia in 4 bubble bags and two cardboard boxes....amazing stuff.

it was every bit as good as he described it to be...pristine....there is not a mark on it

I'm a happy boy

and thanks again to Colnago for the tip on the reset

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It dawned on me today.... I really don't know when we're OK to push the pushers on the Daytona.

So I understand that we're not supposed to push the pushers when underwater (though a french diver on TRF has disputed this)...

... but what about after we dampen the watch but we are no longer underwater? What about right after we wash our watch/hands?

How long after the watch is wet are we OK to push the pushers?

What's your experience with this?

Thanks!
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