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Reference · 12 October 2010, 10:04 PM

Thinking about flipping my Rolex Sea Dweller for a Panerai.
There are five good shops in my city that consistently have a good selection of second hand PAMs on sale. So basically I'm looking for a nice used manual or automatic sandwich dial PAM under $5,000 USD. My question is what models are most recommended within this range. Other than a strong preference for the sandwich dial, I have not settled on a style yet, so all recommendations are welcome.
Thanks in advance.

timepieceaddict · 12 October 2010, 11:18 PM

Go for a 111.
Its a manual wind luminor. If you get the later series, it has sandwich dial as well.

jvo300 · 12 October 2010, 11:25 PM

I second the 111 for sandwich dial. However, I think the best Panerai entry point is the 000 (though you don't have sandwich or seconds subdial) or 005. Got to love the logo! Good luck!

Wheless · 13 October 2010, 12:03 AM

I was in a similar situation a few weeks ago . . .

Based on my reading (mainly on this forum), the most popular entry-level models are the 000, 005, 111, 112.

I went with the 111. Great watch! Love the manual wind and the display back, as well as the classic OP look.

walds11 · 13 October 2010, 12:08 AM

I am looking to get back into the Panerai fold. My last was a PAM 104, which I sold about 2 years ago. I am really turned onto the 312, but it looks super thick. The combination of the 1950 case, sandwich dial and auto movement is killer. I have relatively thin wrists (6 3/4", more round than flat on the top). I can usually pull off larger watches as long as they are not too thick. How does the 312 wear on the wrist (1950 cases)? I even thought about getting another PAM 48. Maybe I need to be talked out of a 40mm PAM.

mfer · 13 October 2010, 01:04 AM

Quick answer.

Under 5k
111,112 - SS Lum Man
176,177 - Ti Lum Man
183,210 - SS Rad Man

Just slight over 5k
312 - SS Lum 1950 Inhouse Auto

Long answer. (not written, but on your part...)
Take you time and look around. I don't get when people ask what watch should I buy? I don't know, one you like....one you are passionate about...one you try on and just have to have?

karmatp · 13 October 2010, 06:18 AM

[QUOTE=mfer;2115360]Quick answer.

Under 5k
111,112 - SS Lum Man
176,177 - Ti Lum Man
183,210 - SS Rad Man
QUOTE]

You can't go wrong with any of the above, they all rock. Unlike other brands, I love every Panerai model made, so all of the above are amazing IMHO.

You need to decide between a Radiomir or a Luminor, two completly different watches, but they are both amazing on the wrist.

akira23 · 14 October 2010, 01:00 AM

Get what makes you smile the most, that tugs at your heart! It all comes down to personal preference!!!! But savor the decision making! The thrill of the hunt so to speak...

Michael M. · 14 October 2010, 01:12 AM

Pam111

Reference · 17 October 2010, 10:48 PM

All,
Thanks for the suggestions.

machxpert · 19 October 2010, 12:46 AM

I know its over 5k but the Pam 359 is really nice... Maybe you can find a mint one around 5k if you look hard.

clint501 · 26 October 2010, 10:26 AM

I used to have a 111 but sold it due to 1. manual wind- got tired of the watch stopping mid-day if I forgot to wind it; 2). lack of a deployment clasp - it is such an amazing feature and 3. the lack of a date function- you would be amazed how much you will miss it. I bought a new 104 last year and love it, especially with the brown croc strap- I would recommend the 104 any day

B. Doggy · 26 October 2010, 10:46 AM

You'll know when you put it on. Sometimes price plays little part in the ultimate decision, like it or not...

Speed · 26 October 2010, 02:05 PM

I say 111 - Elegant Simplicity!

mach330 · 26 October 2010, 02:14 PM

pardon my newbiness. what is a sandwich dial? been trying to figure out what that is? is it the numbers being inside and not sticking out?

egzbuen · 27 October 2010, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mach330

pardon my newbiness. what is a sandwich dial? been trying to figure out what that is? is it the numbers being inside and not sticking out?

The post right above yours is a sandwich dial.

Think of a sandwich were you slap two slices of bread over each other. Same as sandwich dials of PAMS, instead of painted numbers or indices, they use two layers slapping one over the other with the lume underneath.

Sorry about the analogy

mach330 · 28 October 2010, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egzbuen

The post right above yours is a sandwich dial.

Think of a sandwich were you slap two slices of bread over each other. Same as sandwich dials of PAMS, instead of painted numbers or indices, they use two layers slapping one over the other with the lume underneath.

Sorry about the analogy

oh ok thanks. i could never figure it out until i saw some close up pix, then i figure it's how the dials are underneath. kind'a cool.

12 October 2010, 10:04 PM	#1
Reference Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Inside Posts: 18	Panerai Sandwich Dial Models Thinking about flipping my Rolex Sea Dweller for a Panerai. There are five good shops in my city that consistently have a good selection of second hand PAMs on sale. So basically I'm looking for a nice used manual or automatic sandwich dial PAM under $5,000 USD. My question is what models are most recommended within this range. Other than a strong preference for the sandwich dial, I have not settled on a style yet, so all recommendations are welcome. Thanks in advance.

13 October 2010, 12:08 AM	#5
walds11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Real Name: Adam Location: Philly ‘burbs Posts: 5,674	I am looking to get back into the Panerai fold. My last was a PAM 104, which I sold about 2 years ago. I am really turned onto the 312, but it looks super thick. The combination of the 1950 case, sandwich dial and auto movement is killer. I have relatively thin wrists (6 3/4", more round than flat on the top). I can usually pull off larger watches as long as they are not too thick. How does the 312 wear on the wrist (1950 cases)? I even thought about getting another PAM 48. Maybe I need to be talked out of a 40mm PAM. __________________ Adam

13 October 2010, 01:04 AM	#6
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	Quick answer. Under 5k 111,112 - SS Lum Man 176,177 - Ti Lum Man 183,210 - SS Rad Man Just slight over 5k 312 - SS Lum 1950 Inhouse Auto Long answer. (not written, but on your part...) Take you time and look around. I don't get when people ask what watch should I buy? I don't know, one you like....one you are passionate about...one you try on and just have to have? __________________ member#3242

13 October 2010, 06:18 AM	#7
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	[QUOTE=mfer;2115360]Quick answer. Under 5k 111,112 - SS Lum Man 176,177 - Ti Lum Man 183,210 - SS Rad Man QUOTE] You can't go wrong with any of the above, they all rock. Unlike other brands, I love every Panerai model made, so all of the above are amazing IMHO. You need to decide between a Radiomir or a Luminor, two completly different watches, but they are both amazing on the wrist. __________________ My grails:

26 October 2010, 10:46 AM	#13
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	You'll know when you put it on. Sometimes price plays little part in the ultimate decision, like it or not... __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

12 October 2010, 11:18 PM	#2
timepieceaddict "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Nick Location: Sussex, UK Watch: 116520, Pam 312 Posts: 286	Go for a 111. Its a manual wind luminor. If you get the later series, it has sandwich dial as well.

12 October 2010, 11:25 PM	#3
jvo300 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: TX Posts: 1,897	I second the 111 for sandwich dial. However, I think the best Panerai entry point is the 000 (though you don't have sandwich or seconds subdial) or 005. Got to love the logo! Good luck!

13 October 2010, 12:03 AM	#4
Wheless "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Stephen Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 27	I was in a similar situation a few weeks ago . . . Based on my reading (mainly on this forum), the most popular entry-level models are the 000, 005, 111, 112. I went with the 111. Great watch! Love the manual wind and the display back, as well as the classic OP look.

14 October 2010, 01:00 AM	#8
akira23 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Marty Location: Florida Watch: Pam 1313 Posts: 456	Get what makes you smile the most, that tugs at your heart! It all comes down to personal preference!!!! But savor the decision making! The thrill of the hunt so to speak...

14 October 2010, 01:12 AM	#9
Michael M. Banned Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 8,391	Pam111

17 October 2010, 10:48 PM	#10
Reference Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Inside Posts: 18	All, Thanks for the suggestions.

19 October 2010, 12:46 AM	#11
machxpert "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Scott Location: Tokyo/NorCal Watch: All Posts: 47	I know its over 5k but the Pam 359 is really nice... Maybe you can find a mint one around 5k if you look hard.

26 October 2010, 10:26 AM	#12
clint501 Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: toronto Posts: 45	I used to have a 111 but sold it due to 1. manual wind- got tired of the watch stopping mid-day if I forgot to wind it; 2). lack of a deployment clasp - it is such an amazing feature and 3. the lack of a date function- you would be amazed how much you will miss it. I bought a new 104 last year and love it, especially with the brown croc strap- I would recommend the 104 any day

26 October 2010, 02:05 PM	#14
Speed "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: USA Posts: 19,740	I say 111 - Elegant Simplicity!

26 October 2010, 02:14 PM	#15
mach330 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The OC Watch: Daytona,GMT,PAM 90 Posts: 394	pardon my newbiness. what is a sandwich dial? been trying to figure out what that is? is it the numbers being inside and not sticking out?

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