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JULIO · 22 October 2006, 04:59 AM

HAs Anybody done buisness with this ebay seller?
Rep, Productm, Warranty, etc.

worktolivelife · 22 October 2006, 05:22 AM

what item are you thinking of purchasing off him, to be honest i have NEVER!!!! failed to get a better deal through an AD on a new rolex than anything on ebay!

colemanitis · 22 October 2006, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

what item are you thinking of purchasing off him, to be honest i have NEVER!!!! failed to get a better deal through an AD on a new rolex than anything on ebay!

You can get a good deal at an AD?

There's lots of good deals on eBay, the problem is finding a reputable seller that you can 100% trust. I don't know anything about PhilWatch, but have noticed them a ton on eBay.

worktolivelife · 22 October 2006, 05:37 AM

good relationship with an AD whould net 10-15% off SS Sports X Daytona

YMplat/TT less 20% GOLD less 25% never seen a E bay geniune NIB rolex at those prices

colemanitis · 22 October 2006, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

good relationship with an AD whould net 10-15% off SS Sports X Daytona

YMplat/TT less 20% GOLD less 25% never seen a E bay geniune NIB rolex at those prices

That's great that YOU can get such a discount, however most of us don't have such a relationship with our ADs.

sstoots · 22 October 2006, 05:44 AM

yes, I bought a 1997 14060 from Phil Watch (as posted on you know
where). It was exactly as described and was guaranteed as
authentic. Same for Becker Time,

worktolivelife · 22 October 2006, 05:46 AM

I got 10-15% of a SS sports on my first walk through the door, all AD's are not the same! small independants are "the Best!!" imho great service and they care and want your business the large chains are all governed from above

steve just how I've found things here in the uk!

Lol-x · 22 October 2006, 10:41 AM

Can only speak from 1 personal dealing. I wasn't happy with the condition of the watch purchased, but returned it and got a refund.
Wherever you go, whatever you buy, ask all relevant questions and make appopriate checks. Cheers & 73

JULIO · 22 October 2006, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

what item are you thinking of purchasing off him, to be honest i have NEVER!!!! failed to get a better deal through an AD on a new rolex than anything on ebay!

I just needed to know if some of us have done any buisness with them, I just wanted to check reliability.
They have a very large Inventory, good and not so good, I wanted to be carefull.

JJ Irani · 22 October 2006, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colemanitis

You can get a good deal at an AD?

There's lots of good deals on eBay, the problem is finding a reputable seller that you can 100% trust. I don't know anything about PhilWatch, but have noticed them a ton on eBay.

I can get deals from my AD that will make an e-bay seller bow his head in shame!!

mailman · 22 October 2006, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colemanitis

That's great that YOU can get such a discount, however most of us don't have such a relationship with our ADs.

I do

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

all AD's are not the same! small independants are "the Best!!" imho great service and they care and want your business

I agree. You can't beat the small guy for service and just being personal

maverick · 25 October 2006, 10:57 AM

I bought my very first Rolex (16613) from Philwatch. He is honest and I know others who have used him.

=) maverick

Rockrolex · 25 October 2006, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by worktolivelife

good relationship with an AD whould net 10-15% off SS Sports X Daytona

YMplat/TT less 20% GOLD less 25% never seen a E bay geniune NIB rolex at those prices

Let's see:

NIB
Y series GMT-II 20%+ off list
GP ww.tc 53% off list
JLC Master Geographic 49% off list.

Preowned:
1983 TT DJ 71% off appraised value
1991 TT DJ 61% off appraised value
1986 YG DD 62% off appraised value

Let's see an AD beat that.

SteveSanders987 · 25 October 2006, 12:52 PM

Philwatch is indeed a rather prominent figure on the ebay...from what I have seen and researched, he seems to be for real.

maverick · 25 October 2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveSanders987

Philwatch is indeed a rather prominent figure on the ebay...from what I have seen and researched, he seems to be for real.

For a grey dealer he is very good. I had a problem with the watch I bought from him. He really had no one to properly repair it (very common with grey dealers) but he did offer me a full refund and this was after three months. The problem with the watch was a fluke and not his fault.

He sent me some money toward a Rolex service.

Since then I have run into several people that recommend him and have bought from him. =) maverick

PhiDeltBeers · 8 May 2007, 07:19 AM

I have dealt with them 3 times and wow, what service! My first watch had a problem, so I traded it in for another. I kept it for about a year and traded it in for my GMT. They gave me the exact amount I paid for it, in trade. Not too bad.

jac67 · 8 May 2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JULIO

HAs Anybody done buisness with this ebay seller?
Rep, Productm, Warranty, etc.

Yes, I have also bought a Rolex from them. They were good to deal with, watch as described and quick delivery.

John.

betrezra · 9 May 2007, 12:22 AM

I bought a Non-date sub from him, fast shipping, very prof svc.

Great watch.

No troubles.

nko51 · 9 May 2007, 12:36 AM

One of the best reputable Ebay sellers ID is bell8769. TT Blue Sub $6349.00, new "Z" series.

John Ireland · 9 May 2007, 12:43 AM

selling you a new watch...(relatively) fresh from the factory and with a factory warranty that will be honored by the factory.

An aftermarket or gray market or non-AD who is selling you a NIB is selling you a watch that might have been a store demo model, might be a return from a customer and it is "just like new" and has all the boxes and papers, might be old stock bought from an AD going out of business and yes the watch is NIB...but...as far as Rolex is concerned all these watches are used watches, and you are not buying it from an AD and so Rolex is not required to honor the factory warranty papers that come with it.

I once bought a NIB GP from a gray market dealer and the papers were not the original ones that came with the watch...the serial numbers didn't match. In my lust for the watch, I didn't think or take the time to compare.

There are many excellent gray market dealers with outstanding reputations and excellent customer histories....and there are probably many ADs who suck.

The rule of thumb is you get what you pay for. Buy a new watch from an AD and you get a factory warranty good anywhere in the world. Buy a "new" watch from the best gray market seller in the world and you get a watch that might have an excellent "in store warranty" but in all probability will be considered a used watch and not under warranty, by Rolex.

I have never heard anything bad about Phil Watch...but never expect perfection from a human being...or anything the make.

22 October 2006, 04:59 AM	#1
JULIO Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: USA Posts: 16	Phil Watch Comapny (PWK, Co.) HAs Anybody done buisness with this ebay seller? Rep, Productm, Warranty, etc.

22 October 2006, 05:44 AM	#6
sstoots "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Stan Stoots Location: Dunedin, Fl. Watch: 11610 'A' Posts: 3	Phil Watch Experience and Feedback? yes, I bought a 1997 14060 from Phil Watch (as posted on you know where). It was exactly as described and was guaranteed as authentic. Same for Becker Time,

9 May 2007, 12:22 AM	#18
betrezra "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 477	Non-Date Sub I bought a Non-date sub from him, fast shipping, very prof svc. Great watch. No troubles.

9 May 2007, 12:36 AM	#19
nko51 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Real Name: Alex Location: USA Watch: TT Blue Sub Posts: 2,542	One of the best reputable Ebay sellers ID is bell8769. TT Blue Sub $6349.00, new "Z" series. __________________

9 May 2007, 12:43 AM	#20
John Ireland "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 191	NIB does not always mean "new in box"...an AD is selling you a new watch...(relatively) fresh from the factory and with a factory warranty that will be honored by the factory. An aftermarket or gray market or non-AD who is selling you a NIB is selling you a watch that might have been a store demo model, might be a return from a customer and it is "just like new" and has all the boxes and papers, might be old stock bought from an AD going out of business and yes the watch is NIB...but...as far as Rolex is concerned all these watches are used watches, and you are not buying it from an AD and so Rolex is not required to honor the factory warranty papers that come with it. I once bought a NIB GP from a gray market dealer and the papers were not the original ones that came with the watch...the serial numbers didn't match. In my lust for the watch, I didn't think or take the time to compare. There are many excellent gray market dealers with outstanding reputations and excellent customer histories....and there are probably many ADs who suck. The rule of thumb is you get what you pay for. Buy a new watch from an AD and you get a factory warranty good anywhere in the world. Buy a "new" watch from the best gray market seller in the world and you get a watch that might have an excellent "in store warranty" but in all probability will be considered a used watch and not under warranty, by Rolex. I have never heard anything bad about Phil Watch...but never expect perfection from a human being...or anything the make.

22 October 2006, 05:22 AM	#2
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	what item are you thinking of purchasing off him, to be honest i have NEVER!!!! failed to get a better deal through an AD on a new rolex than anything on ebay!

22 October 2006, 05:37 AM	#4
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	good relationship with an AD whould net 10-15% off SS Sports X Daytona YMplat/TT less 20% GOLD less 25% never seen a E bay geniune NIB rolex at those prices

22 October 2006, 05:46 AM	#7
worktolivelife "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,365	I got 10-15% of a SS sports on my first walk through the door, all AD's are not the same! small independants are "the Best!!" imho great service and they care and want your business the large chains are all governed from above steve just how I've found things here in the uk!

22 October 2006, 10:41 AM	#8
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,553	Can only speak from 1 personal dealing. I wasn't happy with the condition of the watch purchased, but returned it and got a refund. Wherever you go, whatever you buy, ask all relevant questions and make appopriate checks. Cheers & 73

25 October 2006, 10:57 AM	#12
maverick Banned Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: maverick Location: Prescott Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,180	I bought my very first Rolex (16613) from Philwatch. He is honest and I know others who have used him. =) maverick

25 October 2006, 12:52 PM	#14
SteveSanders987 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cary, NC Watch: Blue TT Subbie F Posts: 26	Philwatch is indeed a rather prominent figure on the ebay...from what I have seen and researched, he seems to be for real.

8 May 2007, 07:19 AM	#16
PhiDeltBeers Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tulsa Posts: 52	I have dealt with them 3 times and wow, what service! My first watch had a problem, so I traded it in for another. I kept it for about a year and traded it in for my GMT. They gave me the exact amount I paid for it, in trade. Not too bad.

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