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JoeI · 10 January 2011, 12:39 AM

I am trading a royal oak 15300 white dial BNIB still wrapped, I picked it up for 33% off the old list of $12,500( I already have a black dial 15300 and prefer it much more, one that I have been actually wearing) + a Breitling steelfish which was worn only a few times for two Panerai models : a 312 and a 321 which retail for 7400 & 9000. I will be getting a 19% discount on the Pams so I will have to come up with 3700 for the trade.
Opinions please!

Spencer · 10 January 2011, 10:06 AM

I agree in dumping the white dial 15300 since you already have the black dial and the Breilting. But IMO those 2 PAM's are very similar. I like swapping teh 15300 & Breitlng for eitehr the 312 or 321 and smething else, not both.

clarencek · 10 January 2011, 11:16 AM

Agree as well, I'm not a fan of the 321 - too busy.

tech_controller · 10 January 2011, 01:21 PM

Since you asked for opinions...I'd keep the APs...I had a 312...dumped it. And yes the 321 is too busy for me as well.

I can't speak for the Breitlings as they don't really do anything for me.

I'm jealous of your AP though...those are sweet!

JoeI · 10 January 2011, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer

I agree in dumping the white dial 15300 since you already have the black dial and the Breilting. But IMO those 2 PAM's are very similar. I like swapping teh 15300 & Breitlng for eitehr the 312 or 321 and smething else, not both.

Which other Pam would you recommend besides the 321.

mike · 10 January 2011, 11:56 PM

Joe, I'll go against the tide a bit.

I quite like the 321. I kinda like PR's on the front. I do think that perhaps a 321 and 312 are a bit close given the fact you can hide the 24 hr. hand when not in use.

My first thought was something like a 359 in leiu of the 312. Might make a nice combo.

psv · 11 January 2011, 12:15 AM

Not a big fan of either 321 either. The 312 is nice but somewhat bland.

Then again, I'm not a fan of Gerald Genta designed watches either! ;-)

Dump'em all and get a 127/Fiddy!

JoeI · 11 January 2011, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

Not a big fan of either 321 either. The 312 is nice but somewhat bland.

Then again, I'm not a fan of Gerald Genta designed watches either! ;-)

Dump'em all and get a 127/Fiddy!

Holy crap!!!, I just googled the 127/Fiddy, 22k preowned, I don't think I could bring myself to buy a watch that costs the same as my car.

Spencer · 11 January 2011, 10:21 AM

There are SO many differnet PAM's it's hard to reccomend you one w/o knowing what you are looking for. I happen to like the 312, so I agree with getting that, but not the 321. It's different, but you don't have a divers watch, how about the 305? Or since you like the look of the 312, how about the 233, it's similar and arguably more desirable than the 312.

Michael M. · 11 January 2011, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by clarencek

Agree as well, I'm not a fan of the 321 - too busy.

I agree!

JoeI · 11 January 2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer

There are SO many differnet PAM's it's hard to reccomend you one w/o knowing what you are looking for. I happen to like the 312, so I agree with getting that, but not the 321. It's different, but you don't have a divers watch, how about the 305? Or since you like the look of the 312, how about the 233, it's similar and arguably more desirable than the 312.

Going to look into the 233, thanks.

psv · 11 January 2011, 12:06 PM

233 is my fav affordable Panerai. Domed crystal, GMT + 8 days PR complications, the first Panerai with the in-house movement, looks great on a JV strap. If you could only have one Panerai, that might be the one.

Spencer · 11 January 2011, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeI

Going to look into the 233, thanks.

I personally would rather have the 15300 over a 233, but I'd rather have the 233 over a SECOND 15300, I say go for it! Trade it straight up, or maybe through in 1K ifneed be, save the Breilting and maybe use the Breitling as trade bait in the future

tech_controller · 11 January 2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by psv

233 is my fav affordable Panerai. Domed crystal, GMT + 8 days PR complications, the first Panerai with the in-house movement, looks great on a JV strap. If you could only have one Panerai, that might be the one.

I had the 233....as I thought it had everything I wanted in a pannie...in-house movement, NON-cyclops date window, GMT and 8 days plus on the PR...but in the end...the domed sapphire drove me crazy with all the glare on the crystal...so off it went...

I think i prefer my panerai to be from the basic, historic line...OP can do all they want to compete with the big watch names that have been around for hundreds of years by coming up with their in-house movemements...I will stick with their watches that first appealed to me long time ago...like the 111

10 January 2011, 12:39 AM	#1
JoeI "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Real Name: Joe Location: New York Watch: Panerai Posts: 146	Trade these for these. I am trading a royal oak 15300 white dial BNIB still wrapped, I picked it up for 33% off the old list of $12,500( I already have a black dial 15300 and prefer it much more, one that I have been actually wearing) + a Breitling steelfish which was worn only a few times for two Panerai models : a 312 and a 321 which retail for 7400 & 9000. I will be getting a 19% discount on the Pams so I will have to come up with 3700 for the trade. Opinions please! __________________ Panerai 1312 Panerai 1320

10 January 2011, 10:06 AM	#2
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	I agree in dumping the white dial 15300 since you already have the black dial and the Breilting. But IMO those 2 PAM's are very similar. I like swapping teh 15300 & Breitlng for eitehr the 312 or 321 and smething else, not both. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

11 January 2011, 10:21 AM	#9
Spencer "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: US Posts: 1,338	There are SO many differnet PAM's it's hard to reccomend you one w/o knowing what you are looking for. I happen to like the 312, so I agree with getting that, but not the 321. It's different, but you don't have a divers watch, how about the 305? Or since you like the look of the 312, how about the 233, it's similar and arguably more desirable than the 312. __________________ I'm a perpetual kind of guy Resident Audemars Piguet Fanatic

10 January 2011, 11:16 AM	#3
clarencek "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New York Posts: 400	Agree as well, I'm not a fan of the 321 - too busy.

10 January 2011, 01:21 PM	#4
tech_controller 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Daniel Location: みな& Watch: Me Bleed... Posts: 690	Since you asked for opinions...I'd keep the APs...I had a 312...dumped it. And yes the 321 is too busy for me as well. I can't speak for the Breitlings as they don't really do anything for me. I'm jealous of your AP though...those are sweet!

10 January 2011, 11:56 PM	#6
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,682	Joe, I'll go against the tide a bit. I quite like the 321. I kinda like PR's on the front. I do think that perhaps a 321 and 312 are a bit close given the fact you can hide the 24 hr. hand when not in use. My first thought was something like a 359 in leiu of the 312. Might make a nice combo.

11 January 2011, 12:15 AM	#7
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,077	Not a big fan of either 321 either. The 312 is nice but somewhat bland. Then again, I'm not a fan of Gerald Genta designed watches either! ;-) Dump'em all and get a 127/Fiddy!

11 January 2011, 12:06 PM	#12
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,077	233 is my fav affordable Panerai. Domed crystal, GMT + 8 days PR complications, the first Panerai with the in-house movement, looks great on a JV strap. If you could only have one Panerai, that might be the one.

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