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EchoBlueUK · 17 February 2011, 06:16 AM

A buddy of mine disputes the fact that the all steel GMTIIC is all made entirely from 904L steel (i.e. Case+Bracelet). I'm pretty certain that they are, although when i went on the Rolex.com website to prove it they don't seem to refer to it specifically as 904L anymore, just steel.

They seem to make a big deal of it regarding the SS SubC in the 'specials' section.

Cheers guys!

dooder202 · 17 February 2011, 06:36 AM

Pretty sure it's all 904L steel.

cedargrove · 17 February 2011, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

A buddy of mine disputes the fact that the all steel GMTIIC is all made entirely from 904L steel (i.e. Case+Bracelet). I'm pretty certain that they are, although when i went on the Rolex.com website to prove it they don't seem to refer to it specifically as 904L anymore, just steel.

They seem to make a big deal of it regarding the SS SubC in the 'specials' section.

Cheers guys!

All I could see on the website is reference to the TT model as gold and 904L steel. I have the GMT IIc and assume it is all 904L.

I also have the Milgauss and it is 904L as per the website. The bracelet and case seem to be identical steel to my GMT.

I realize this is nothing definitive, but my understanding is that all new SS models are 904L (case and bracelet).

Rob_b · 17 February 2011, 06:50 AM

I'll wade in here, I always thought that only the cases and case backs were made from 904L SS to prevent pitting between the two

I don't think you can tell the difference between the metals by eye, weight or feel? A test would be needed for this, acid etch test?

Does anyone have a definitive answer to this?

BTW, I don't think it matters too much in the real world. 316 SS is a hardy material anyway.

witch watch · 17 February 2011, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cedargrove

I also have the Milgauss and it is 904L as per the website..
I realize this is nothing definitive, but my understanding is that all new SS models are 904L (case and bracelet).

Echo's what i think

jeremyam · 17 February 2011, 07:03 AM

i never heard otherwise, 904l for the layman might not be of much interest or carry much weight, i think you're right

EchoBlueUK · 17 February 2011, 09:16 AM

Does anyone have any evidence to settle this? Would it be specified in any kind if service manual? Thanks.

BB83 · 17 February 2011, 10:36 AM

Rolex doesn't do half-ass-- all 904L steel, baby!

Sub'erman · 17 February 2011, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

Does anyone have any evidence to settle this? Would it be specified in any kind if service manual? Thanks.

A quick visit to:
www.rolex.com
should settle this and shut him up!!

A GMT II C is ALL 904L

Mosco · 17 February 2011, 10:48 AM

It's actually 1808 steel. Used to cut diamonds.

GradyPhilpott · 17 February 2011, 11:06 AM

I think that that the GMTIIc is all 904L.

My 116200 is all 904L.

Here's a discussion of the matter from an earlier thread.

I'm not sure if it clarifies the question or not.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=133431

wdalew5 · 17 February 2011, 11:12 AM

My rolex is made of plastic. It also has a long life battery in it..TOP THAT ALL......

Rolex77 · 17 February 2011, 04:27 PM

all 904L

EchoBlueUK · 17 February 2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

A quick visit to:
www.rolex.com
should settle this and shut him up!!

A GMT II C is ALL 904L

If you read the OP you would see I've already done this.

Nice attitude btw.

karmatp · 17 February 2011, 11:28 PM

Interesting,.

I know the new Sub C is is complete 904 were the old 16610's were not. The old 16710's were not complete 904 and I was under the impression that the new GMT II C's were complete 904.

Rolex does make a point to inform people that the new Sub's are complete 904, but I have never heard a peep about the GMT II C's.

Sub'erman · 18 February 2011, 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EchoBlueUK

If you read the OP you would see I've already done this.

Nice attitude btw.

Sorry I was a bit fast there...
The rolex PDF press kit from 2007 states that it made from 904L steel...
You might want to get your hands on it...

SS Oyster · 18 February 2011, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karmatp

Interesting,.

I know the new Sub C is is complete 904 were the old 16610's were not. The old 16710's were not complete 904 and I was under the impression that the new GMT II C's were complete 904.

Rolex does make a point to inform people that the new Sub's are complete 904, but I have never heard a peep about the GMT II C's.

How do you know this? The Rolex.com video on 904L only states the case is made of this version of stainless steel.

SS Oyster · 18 February 2011, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sub'erman

Sorry I was a bit fast there...
The rolex PDF press kit from 2007 states that it made from 904L steel...
You might want to get your hands on it...

What is "it"? The only thing the Rolex web site is made of 904L is the case. Nothing at all about the bracelet. Some say only the DSSD - but where did they get that information? Others say the new SubC - again, same question?

The OP is looking for something in writing from Rolex. If someone has a scan of the 2007 press kit, I'd like to read what it says in terms of what is and isn't made of 904L.

Sub'erman · 18 February 2011, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Oyster

What is "it"? The only thing the Rolex web site is made of 904L is the case. Nothing at all about the bracelet. Some say only the DSSD - but where did they get that information? Others say the new SubC - again, same question?

The OP is looking for something in writing from Rolex. If someone has a scan of the 2007 press kit, I'd like to read what it says in terms of what is and isn't made of 904L.

Ups! Missed an "is" there. It is made from 904L steel and the bracelet, too...
The PDF is downloadable. Google it to find it!!!

Sub'erman · 18 February 2011, 08:30 AM

Hmm, my attempt gave the 2010 press kit...

SS Oyster · 18 February 2011, 04:38 PM

Here is the 2010 Basel press kit that shows the SubC case AND bracelet is made of 904L ... even the DJ and Explorer bracelets are made of 904L, so even though I cannot find the 2007 Basel press kit, I have to think the new GMT IIc bracelet is made of 904L as well.

Strange that Rolex spent all that extra money on 904L for their bracelets yet only state that cases are made of 904L in their website video on 904L and in the verbage ... that's a lost opportunity by their marketing team for sure!

Basel 2010 Press Kit

Ha ... finally some proof

EchoBlueUK · 19 February 2011, 04:27 AM

Can't seem to locate the 2007 press kit online. Does anyone have some scans and care to share? Thanks.

17 February 2011, 06:16 AM	#1
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Please settle an argument... A buddy of mine disputes the fact that the all steel GMTIIC is all made entirely from 904L steel (i.e. Case+Bracelet). I'm pretty certain that they are, although when i went on the Rolex.com website to prove it they don't seem to refer to it specifically as 904L anymore, just steel. They seem to make a big deal of it regarding the SS SubC in the 'specials' section. Cheers guys!

17 February 2011, 06:50 AM	#4
Rob_b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Brisbane AUS Watch: SeaDweller Posts: 850	I'll wade in here, I always thought that only the cases and case backs were made from 904L SS to prevent pitting between the two I don't think you can tell the difference between the metals by eye, weight or feel? A test would be needed for this, acid etch test? Does anyone have a definitive answer to this? BTW, I don't think it matters too much in the real world. 316 SS is a hardy material anyway. __________________ Travelling Through Time at The Speed of Life.

17 February 2011, 10:48 AM	#10
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	It's actually 1808 steel. Used to cut diamonds. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

17 February 2011, 11:06 AM	#11
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,447	I think that that the GMTIIc is all 904L. My 116200 is all 904L. Here's a discussion of the matter from an earlier thread. I'm not sure if it clarifies the question or not. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=133431 __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

17 February 2011, 11:28 PM	#15
karmatp "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Real Name: Trevor Location: Arizona Posts: 5,740	Interesting,. I know the new Sub C is is complete 904 were the old 16610's were not. The old 16710's were not complete 904 and I was under the impression that the new GMT II C's were complete 904. Rolex does make a point to inform people that the new Sub's are complete 904, but I have never heard a peep about the GMT II C's. __________________ My grails:

17 February 2011, 06:36 AM	#2
dooder202 Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: US Watch: DateJust Posts: 1,468	Pretty sure it's all 904L steel.

17 February 2011, 07:03 AM	#6
jeremyam Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Jeremy Location: Toronto, Ontario Watch: 16610 V Posts: 511	i never heard otherwise, 904l for the layman might not be of much interest or carry much weight, i think you're right

17 February 2011, 09:16 AM	#7
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Does anyone have any evidence to settle this? Would it be specified in any kind if service manual? Thanks.

17 February 2011, 10:36 AM	#8
BB83 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Watch: Daytona Posts: 375	Rolex doesn't do half-ass-- all 904L steel, baby!

17 February 2011, 11:12 AM	#12
wdalew5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Dale Location: ohio Watch: Rolex,omega,casio Posts: 508	My rolex is made of plastic. It also has a long life battery in it..TOP THAT ALL......

17 February 2011, 04:27 PM	#13
Rolex77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Indra Location: Jakarta Watch: ROLEXes, OMEGAs Posts: 154	all 904L

18 February 2011, 08:30 AM	#20
Sub'erman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: SK Location: Greenland Watch: Various SUBs Posts: 473	Hmm, my attempt gave the 2010 press kit... __________________ Founder and CEO of the "BLUME" Club Rolex ref: 14060 - 92', 16600- 06', 116610LN 11' In Da House!! He who only loves one woman and one watch, doesn't truly love women or watches!! "Not all that is countable, counts; and not all that counts, is countable"

18 February 2011, 04:38 PM	#21
SS Oyster 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 9,202	Here is the 2010 Basel press kit that shows the SubC case AND bracelet is made of 904L ... even the DJ and Explorer bracelets are made of 904L, so even though I cannot find the 2007 Basel press kit, I have to think the new GMT IIc bracelet is made of 904L as well. Strange that Rolex spent all that extra money on 904L for their bracelets yet only state that cases are made of 904L in their website video on 904L and in the verbage ... that's a lost opportunity by their marketing team for sure! Basel 2010 Press Kit Ha ... finally some proof

19 February 2011, 04:27 AM	#22
EchoBlueUK "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,543	Can't seem to locate the 2007 press kit online. Does anyone have some scans and care to share? Thanks.

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