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eah990 · 24 August 2011, 09:47 PM

Hey guys I have a quick question. I have been wearing my new rolex sub c for two days now and just decided to try and manually wind the watch to see what it felt like. I let the watch sit overnight so I knew it would not be fully wound in the morning. Anyway I tried to wind it this morning and was surprised number 1 how much force it took to wind the watch. And it also made a clicking noise as I wound the watch, even though it was not fully wound. Is this normal ? I decided I'm going to let the watch completely die and try winding it again to get a better feel for it. Any inputs would be appreciated.

watchf · 24 August 2011, 10:38 PM

It shouldn't take any force to wind it.

ro-lex · 24 August 2011, 10:47 PM

Sounds very bad ,should be silky smooth to wind, and no clicks. Needs taking
back to Rolex AD pretty quick I would say !

dddrees · 24 August 2011, 10:50 PM

Are your sure it's in position 1? That is you you just unscrewed the crown?

2th Dr · 24 August 2011, 11:09 PM

Should not take any force whatsoever to wind. And so you know, you don't have to let the watch wind down before you wind it up. You cannot overwind it.

eah990 · 24 August 2011, 11:23 PM

Yes it is in position 1. It sounds like a ratchet kind of when I am winding it.

vette7 · 24 August 2011, 11:29 PM

Mine makes a clicking noise as well

eah990 · 24 August 2011, 11:37 PM

Yes I would say clicking is a better way to describe it.

dddrees · 24 August 2011, 11:40 PM

If you have it between 1 and 2 this kind of behavior can occur. Verify that you have it in position 1 and try again.

Danand · 24 August 2011, 11:56 PM

Mine clicks and there is some resistance, although it had more when new. I wonder if it is tight fitting gaskets?

eah990 · 25 August 2011, 12:00 AM

Sounds like the clicking is typical. And I think your right the watch is brand new and the gaskets are probably very tight.I am going to give the watch time to die down some then I will try again

tulsaokusa · 25 August 2011, 12:14 AM

A little resistance is perfectly normal - and yes you will hear little clicks as you wind it. There is a built-in clutch that keeps you from overwinding. 40 turns is fully-wound.

Cheers,
jason

Megalobyte · 25 August 2011, 12:51 AM

Even after 8 hours at rest my Sub C is close to fully wound. A watch near full wind absolutely has more resistance. And you always hear a soft clicking as the mainspring is wound and the gears turn. When the clicking sound stops, and you hear/feel the spring slip it's fully wound.

If I do wind in the morning, I rarely do, it only takes 5-8 winds to get it back to full wind. When I wind from the watch being stopped, at the beginning, there's noticeably less resistance. When the watch is near a full wind, there's a lot more.

Your watch is totally normal.

eah990 · 25 August 2011, 01:15 AM

Great thanks a lot

The GMT Master · 25 August 2011, 01:43 AM

Just out of interest, did you try to wind it about 2 hours either side of midnight? Sounds very similar to when you're on the date setting and trying to adjust in that time frame

Payesrob · 25 August 2011, 03:01 AM

My Sub does not click, it is very sss...ssss...type of winding...why would it click? do you know the parts of a Rolex?, none of the winding parts would produce a click click noise...Prob best thing to do is take it in for service...

(there)....

Danand · 25 August 2011, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payesrob

My Sub does not click, it is very sss...ssss...type of winding...why would it click? do you know the parts of a Rolex?, none of the winding parts would produce a click click noise...Prob fake...

Well MINE is definitely not fake, even the battery says "Rolex Genuine"!!

Ps 1000th post!

The GMT Master · 25 August 2011, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payesrob

My Sub does not click, it is very sss...ssss...type of winding...why would it click? do you know the parts of a Rolex?, none of the winding parts would produce a click click noise...Prob fake...

I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it is a fake. There could well be an issue with the movement, or, as I suggested in my post, there could be resistance arising from the date trying to be adjusted either side of midnight. Calling it a fake isn't helpful for the OP

Payesrob · 25 August 2011, 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it is a fake. There could well be an issue with the movement, or, as I suggested in my post, there could be resistance arising from the date trying to be adjusted either side of midnight. Calling it a fake isn't helpful for the OP

RIGHT!!!..Take in for service is the best call, they did say it was a new watch not used. Rolex its known for its attention to detail with their watches, if one does not meet standards it will not make quality control check list and it will be destroyed on the spot,it will not make it off factory.

Danand · 25 August 2011, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it is a fake. There could well be an issue with the movement, or, as I suggested in my post, there could be resistance arising from the date trying to be adjusted either side of midnight. Calling it a fake isn't helpful for the OP

Also if a few people post that theirs also clicks then I think it is prudent to assume that is normal and not fake. I know for instance with mine it was bought new from an ad, and the dealer wound it when he took it out of the plastic coffin packaging. If he felt it was not right I'm sure he would have said something ( or had a reaction of surprise or something).

Megalobyte · 25 August 2011, 04:22 AM

If you look at a typical mvt you'll see a little spring loaded hook that engages the gears as you wind the MS. Each time it advances to the next gear tooth, there's a faint click as it slips into that gear tooth, if it didn't the mainspring would never stay put as you put more pressure on it by winding, it's a ratcheting type of thing, which the OP even said it seemed like. It's this faint click you hear at regular intervals as you wind. I should mention you'll only hear it with the watch up to your ear as you're winding.

Every watch I own makes a similar sound when slowly winding with the watch to your ear, and no, didn't buy them from Chung Fat Co in Chinatown. :)

gwalker · 25 August 2011, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payesrob

RIGHT!!!..Take in for service is the best call, they did say it was a new watch not used. Rolex its known for its attention to detail with their watches, if one does not meet standards it will not make quality control check list and it will be destroyed on the spot,it will not make it off factory.

Not to get off topic but Rolex makes 800000 watches a year. Most are flawless but to think that none make it out the factory without issues is crazy. I see posts on here from time to time about issues with new watches. Its not normal but it happens. Rolex isn't some rare time peice. They are mass produced.

Danand · 25 August 2011, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

If you look at a typical mvt you'll see a little spring loaded hook that engages the gears as you wind the MS. Each time it advances to the next gear tooth, there's a faint click as it slips into that gear tooth, if it didn't the mainspring would never stay put as you put more pressure on it by winding, it's a ratcheting type of thing, which the OP even said it seemed like. It's this faint click you hear at regular intervals as you wind. I should mention you'll only hear it with the watch up to your ear as you're winding.

Every watch I own makes a similar sound when slowly winding with the watch to your ear, and no, didn't buy them from Chung Fat Co in Chinatown. :)

Even my little manual timex from 1971does this. The only thing where I disagree with you is I can clearly hear mine while winding without putting it close to my ear (but I do have good hearing for quiet sounds).
Nice explanation. Cheers!

eah990 · 25 August 2011, 07:48 AM

I just went to wind my sub c after letting it sit for 10 hours. And it is pefectly fine, I think I was just trying to wind the watch when it was already fully wound. And yes if you listen carefully you can hear clicking, the ratchet like sound. Which is normal according to 2 other sub c owners. Chrisis averted. Thanks for the help.

and no its not a fake

Payesrob · 25 August 2011, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eah990

I just went to wind my sub c after letting it sit for 10 hours. And it is pefectly fine, I think I was just trying to wind the watch when it was already fully wound. And yes if you listen carefully you can hear clicking, the ratchet like sound. Which is normal according to 2 other sub c owners. Chrisis averted. Thanks for the help.

and no its not a fake

My apologies on the hasty assumption, just looking out for your investment. I removed the coment about maybe being fake...Cheers

tomallen · 25 August 2011, 04:44 PM

It has to click. If there was not a rachet, a stop, a pawl, or a brake of some type each time the wind mechanism was advanced it would unwind when you let go.

24 August 2011, 09:47 PM	#1
eah990 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: Baltimore Watch: 116610LN Posts: 114	Winding rolex sub c Hey guys I have a quick question. I have been wearing my new rolex sub c for two days now and just decided to try and manually wind the watch to see what it felt like. I let the watch sit overnight so I knew it would not be fully wound in the morning. Anyway I tried to wind it this morning and was surprised number 1 how much force it took to wind the watch. And it also made a clicking noise as I wound the watch, even though it was not fully wound. Is this normal ? I decided I'm going to let the watch completely die and try winding it again to get a better feel for it. Any inputs would be appreciated.

24 August 2011, 10:50 PM	#4
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	Are your sure it's in position 1? That is you you just unscrewed the crown? __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

24 August 2011, 11:40 PM	#9
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,253	If you have it between 1 and 2 this kind of behavior can occur. Verify that you have it in position 1 and try again. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

25 August 2011, 04:44 PM	#26
tomallen 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Tom Location: Connecticut Watch: Rolex SubC,GMTIIC Posts: 966	It has to click. If there was not a rachet, a stop, a pawl, or a brake of some type each time the wind mechanism was advanced it would unwind when you let go. __________________ Unless you are the lead dog the scenery never changes

24 August 2011, 10:38 PM	#2
watchf "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 2,458	It shouldn't take any force to wind it.

24 August 2011, 10:47 PM	#3
ro-lex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: uk Posts: 71	Sounds very bad ,should be silky smooth to wind, and no clicks. Needs taking back to Rolex AD pretty quick I would say !

24 August 2011, 11:09 PM	#5
2th Dr Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark-O! Location: Arlington, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 12,714	Should not take any force whatsoever to wind. And so you know, you don't have to let the watch wind down before you wind it up. You cannot overwind it.

24 August 2011, 11:23 PM	#6
eah990 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: Baltimore Watch: 116610LN Posts: 114	Yes it is in position 1. It sounds like a ratchet kind of when I am winding it.

24 August 2011, 11:29 PM	#7
vette7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kentucky Watch: SS Sub C Posts: 1	Mine makes a clicking noise as well

24 August 2011, 11:37 PM	#8
eah990 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: Baltimore Watch: 116610LN Posts: 114	Yes I would say clicking is a better way to describe it.

24 August 2011, 11:56 PM	#10
Danand "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Ottawa Watch: 116610LN Posts: 1,246	Mine clicks and there is some resistance, although it had more when new. I wonder if it is tight fitting gaskets?

25 August 2011, 12:00 AM	#11
eah990 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: Baltimore Watch: 116610LN Posts: 114	Sounds like the clicking is typical. And I think your right the watch is brand new and the gaskets are probably very tight.I am going to give the watch time to die down some then I will try again

25 August 2011, 12:14 AM	#12
tulsaokusa Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: N/A Location: N/A Watch: 2010 SS/Black SubC Posts: 773	A little resistance is perfectly normal - and yes you will hear little clicks as you wind it. There is a built-in clutch that keeps you from overwinding. 40 turns is fully-wound. Cheers, jason

25 August 2011, 12:51 AM	#13
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	Even after 8 hours at rest my Sub C is close to fully wound. A watch near full wind absolutely has more resistance. And you always hear a soft clicking as the mainspring is wound and the gears turn. When the clicking sound stops, and you hear/feel the spring slip it's fully wound. If I do wind in the morning, I rarely do, it only takes 5-8 winds to get it back to full wind. When I wind from the watch being stopped, at the beginning, there's noticeably less resistance. When the watch is near a full wind, there's a lot more. Your watch is totally normal.

25 August 2011, 01:15 AM	#14
eah990 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: Baltimore Watch: 116610LN Posts: 114	Great thanks a lot

25 August 2011, 01:43 AM	#15
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	Just out of interest, did you try to wind it about 2 hours either side of midnight? Sounds very similar to when you're on the date setting and trying to adjust in that time frame

25 August 2011, 03:01 AM	#16
Payesrob Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Watch: Submariner 116610 Posts: 64	My Sub does not click, it is very sss...ssss...type of winding...why would it click? do you know the parts of a Rolex?, none of the winding parts would produce a click click noise...Prob best thing to do is take it in for service... (there)....

25 August 2011, 04:22 AM	#21
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	If you look at a typical mvt you'll see a little spring loaded hook that engages the gears as you wind the MS. Each time it advances to the next gear tooth, there's a faint click as it slips into that gear tooth, if it didn't the mainspring would never stay put as you put more pressure on it by winding, it's a ratcheting type of thing, which the OP even said it seemed like. It's this faint click you hear at regular intervals as you wind. I should mention you'll only hear it with the watch up to your ear as you're winding. Every watch I own makes a similar sound when slowly winding with the watch to your ear, and no, didn't buy them from Chung Fat Co in Chinatown. :)

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