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Old 21 August 2007, 05:41 AM   #1
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No winders for your Rolex?

I called Rolex New York to ask a ? and then asked them about winders. Lomng story short but they are very against them. Said you have to worry about overwinding your watch. What do you guys think?
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Old 21 August 2007, 05:48 AM   #2
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A Rolex watch cannot be overwinded at all. There is a clutch mechanism that separates the mainspring from the watch's winding mechanism when it is fully wound so there is no worry about overwinding.

Think of it as a car's clutch, separating the transmission from the engine and wheels. It works in a similar fashion to the clutch on the watch. You can basically wind the watch an X number of times and it will still not overwind, but 40 clockwise turns of the crown if the watch has stopped is more than enough.

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Old 21 August 2007, 05:52 AM   #3
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I am guessing Rolex New York probably gave you that advice because they WANT you to always wear the watch all the time rather than leaving it just on a winder.
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Old 21 August 2007, 07:01 AM   #4
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I called Rolex New York to ask a ? and then asked them about winders. Lomng story short but they are very against them. Said you have to worry about overwinding your watch. What do you guys think?
Like Jerome said, a winder will not harm your watch.

Either the person you were talking to didn't know what he was talking about or Rolex is against them because they don't make them and can't get anymore money out of you.
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Old 21 August 2007, 07:19 AM   #5
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I use a winder. What's the difference if I wear a watch all the time ot throw it on a winder!
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Old 21 August 2007, 07:26 AM   #6
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I also have my watches on winder mostly because they have a date funtction and I hate having to reset the dates everytime i wear another watch
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Old 21 August 2007, 07:33 AM   #7
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Irritating to call a RSC and talk to someone "out to lunch". If there is valid reason not to use a winder say so. Since they can't be overwound, it makes one doubt anything they tell you!
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Old 21 August 2007, 07:58 AM   #8
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I also have my watches on winder mostly because they have a date funtction and I hate having to reset the dates everytime i wear another watch
Ditto.
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Old 21 August 2007, 09:30 AM   #9
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Irritating to call a RSC and talk to someone "out to lunch". If there is valid reason not to use a winder say so. Since they can't be overwound, it makes one doubt anything they tell you!
Exactly! Winders are great for non-quickset.

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Old 21 August 2007, 06:03 PM   #10
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With just two Rollies in my possession, I don't think I really need a winder.

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Old 21 August 2007, 06:25 PM   #11
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Well, watch winders are more of a convenience than a necessity

If you would have a very complicated watch like a Patek Philippe or IWC perpetual calendar, a watch winder comes in handy so that you do not have to adjust the whole calendar if the watch has stopped.

But for a Rolex where you would only have to adjust the date, I do not believe you need a watch winder. So I would just let it stop and give it a full 40 windings before wearing it again.

You can read more in the FAQ's, section "Winding setting your watch". here is the link:

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=8478

(scroll a bit down)

A long term "rest" of the watch would definately NOT harm the watch! Modern watch lubrication oils are synthetic and would not dry out like the oils used in older watches.

When you are wearing your watch, the parts are actually being exposed to WEAR AND TEAR. And if you are keeping the watch constantly moving on a watch winder, this means even MORE wear and tear.

Therefore a watch winder has no positive effect on the watch whatsoever, but is a mere practical device to keep it going.
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Old 21 August 2007, 06:56 PM   #12
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Winders are not necessary with watches with like say a simple date complication.And the quality of some watch winders perfectly mirrors the quality of the average Swiss watch. A high quality finish on the outside (to justify the extremely high price),but hiding some very cheaply mass-produced insides.Myself would rather rest a watch if not wearing it,how long does it take to set the date and time seconds.And no you will not wear the crown,just think of the manual wind Rolex oysters.Have one from the 1960s my son wears it now.But its been wound now almost daily for 40 years.And as far as I know still original crown and tube.Now if you rest any watch for a period of time.All thats needed is a small manual wind once a month to keep it lubricated.And no you will not wear out the winding crown just again think of the manual winding watches.
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Old 21 August 2007, 08:21 PM   #13
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Winders are not necessary with watches with like say a simple date complication.
That's true Padi, but I have several automatic watches with day and date function, and rotate wearing them. It's convenient to take one off the winder already set to the day and date, especially this one which requires pulling the stem out and pushing it in repeatedly to set the date (I think it's this one, memory's starting to go).


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I particularly like my watch-winder. Not only does it keep my watches FULLY wound, but also keeps the anti-shock mechanism in check too.






















































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I particularly like my watch-winder. Not only does it keep my watches FULLY wound, but also keeps the anti-shock mechanism in check too.






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Old 22 August 2007, 02:07 AM   #16
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This plus duct tape = REDNECK watch winder..
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...A long term "rest" of the watch would definately NOT harm the watch! Modern watch lubrication oils are synthetic and would not dry out like the oils used in older watches...
Hi Bo,

Do you know what brand and viscosity of synthetic oil is used by Rolex?

I have been a big proponent of fully synthetic oils for many years but it's amazing to me how many myths are still believed about synthetic oil usage amongst the general US population -- particularly in cars -- which has severely limited its widespread adoption.

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Hi Bo,

Do you know what brand and viscosity of synthetic oil is used by Rolex?

I have been a big proponent of fully synthetic oils for many years but it's amazing to me how many myths are still believed about synthetic oil usage amongst the general US population -- particularly in cars -- which has limited their widespread adoption.

Well the amount of oil used to correctly oil a mechanical movement you could fit on a few pin heads its a real tiny amount.





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That's true Padi, but I have several automatic watches with day and date function, and rotate wearing them. It's convenient to take one off the winder already set to the day and date, especially this one which requires pulling the stem out and pushing it in repeatedly to set the date (I think it's this one, memory's starting to go).
Well yes would agree to a point but watch winders are a relative
new thing compared to the winding and setting the date etc.So
IMO there would be more wear on the watch on a winder than to occasionally wind and reset time etc.Dont forget watches they have been winding and setting,a long time before the expensive watch winders came into production.And some the prices of these pretty boxes you could almost buy a new watch.
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Well the amount of oil used to correctly oil a mechanical movement you could fit on a few pin heads its a real tiny amount...


But those few tiny, pin-head, amounts of synthetic oil are critical, agreed?

Question of quality not quantity here.
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But those few tiny, pin-head, amounts of synthetic oil are critical, agreed?

Question of quality not quantity here.
Yes but they way they are going now with out the need for oil in
certain escapements who knows whats around the corner.With the oil synthetic or mineral if its not done correctly,too much is
far worst in most cases than too little.
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But those few tiny, pin-head, amounts of synthetic oil are critical, agreed?

Question of quality not quantity here.
Yes, indeed they are

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