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Roman · 22 August 2007, 11:00 AM

I tried on a used Sea Dweller at a Tourneau store and the band felt pretty thin and flimsy. Are the new Sea Dwellers the same way? I currently have a Datejust with the new jubilee bracelet, so I'm used to a heavier feeling bracelet. Just wondering, thanks.

colemanitis · 22 August 2007, 11:09 AM

The Oyster bracelet isn't as heavy as you'd expect. What year SD did you try on?

Oyster Lover · 22 August 2007, 11:10 AM

The Sub and SD are a bit top-heavy compared to the lighter bracelet, but that bracelet is as tough as they come - it can take quite a bit of abuse that others will cave under...

Roman · 22 August 2007, 11:16 AM

That's what I was worried about (how strong it was). She said it was about 2 years old.

colemanitis · 22 August 2007, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman

That's what I was worried about (how strong it was). She said it was about 2 years old.

There's no weight difference between this and a new one. They may not weigh much, but they're stong as heck!

Roman · 22 August 2007, 11:32 AM

Thanks guys for the quick answers!

SPACE-DWELLER · 22 August 2007, 11:16 PM

BTW: The SD was the first Sport's Rolex to get SEL's

Solar · 22 August 2007, 11:34 PM

My AD did a side by side comparison of the SD and the Sub to show that the SD has the thicker links, its fairly apparent without any specific measuring tools.

The SD bracelet I'm told and if anyone has any info to the contrary, please correct me, is the bad boy of the Rolex world.

C

Lol-x · 22 August 2007, 11:36 PM

Thanks Solar, that's good information on that "bad boy"

frostie · 22 August 2007, 11:40 PM

well i do believe the same thing solar

Downing · 22 August 2007, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

BTW: The SD was the first Sport's Rolex to get SEL's

Bo: "SEL's"?

Solar · 23 August 2007, 12:03 AM

SELS= Solid End Links.

Previously, the bracelet was attached to the case by a bent piece of steel. Mike has photos of this older design. Some felt the non-SELs were noisier, making rattling noises and less substantial.

The current models have a solid piece of steel that forms the attachment to the case. This is slightly heavier, and makes less noise in the movement of daily use.

I don't have any photos, but the links on my "old" GMT II 16710 Pepsi (Z series bought in March 2007) are visibly thinner than the beefy links of my Sea Dweller. When I get my macro lens in operation, I'll post some pix.

Chris

Downing · 23 August 2007, 12:07 AM

Ohhhh. Thanks for the info. Now that you mention it, my links do look solid.

SPACE-DWELLER · 23 August 2007, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downing

Bo: "SEL's"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solar

SELS= Solid End Links.

Previously, the bracelet was attached to the case by a bent piece of steel. Mike has photos of this older design. Some felt the non-SELs were noisier, making rattling noises and less substantial.

The current models have a solid piece of steel that forms the attachment to the case. This is slightly heavier, and makes less noise in the movement of daily use.

I don't have any photos, but the links on my "old" GMT II 16710 Pepsi (Z series bought in March 2007) are visibly thinner than the beefy links of my Sea Dweller. When I get my macro lens in operation, I'll post some pix.

Chris

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downing

Ohhhh. Thanks for the info. Now that you mention it, my links do look solid.

Thanks, Solar

I wasn't thinking about the fact that the abbreviation "SEL" would be too .....well..........abbreviated

Anyway, the centre links of the SD (and the Subs for that matter) are still hollow.

But on the bracelet of the new GMT II (and on all OTHER (NEW)Oyster bracelets than the diver "Fliplocks" and on the new Jubilee bracelets) the centre links are solid, making for a heavier bracelet.

Solar · 23 August 2007, 12:36 AM

Fine with me that the centre links on my SD are hollow, freaking thing is 147 g and I believe the heaviest stainless/TT Rolex in production.

My AD said that the SD bracelet is a work of art that performs beyond expectations based on what the routine servicing shows. No bracelet is forever, you may recall a post by outgoing forum member Nick Hacko about Rollies in the bottom of the bay in Syndey, Australia, due to worn bracelet pins that failed when hitting the surf/diving.

Be interesting to get the opinion of a watchmaker on luxury watch/jewel-tool band toughness (ie Omega vs Rolex vs Kobold etc).

C

22 August 2007, 11:00 AM	#1
Roman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 12	Sea Dweller I tried on a used Sea Dweller at a Tourneau store and the band felt pretty thin and flimsy. Are the new Sea Dwellers the same way? I currently have a Datejust with the new jubilee bracelet, so I'm used to a heavier feeling bracelet. Just wondering, thanks.

22 August 2007, 11:09 AM	#2
colemanitis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Jeff Location: Florida Watch: PAM 1090 Posts: 3,723	The Oyster bracelet isn't as heavy as you'd expect. What year SD did you try on? __________________ Member #471

22 August 2007, 11:16 PM	#7
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	BTW: The SD was the first Sport's Rolex to get SEL's __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

23 August 2007, 12:07 AM	#13
Downing "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Downing Location: Portland, Oregon Watch: SD ExpII GO Nav ND Posts: 1,640	Ohhhh. Thanks for the info. Now that you mention it, my links do look solid. __________________ One if by land, one if by sea, one if by air and one uh, just to tell time. Rolex Explorer II White Rolex Sea-Dweller Glashütte Original Navigator Panerai 183 G Black Seal

22 August 2007, 11:10 AM	#3
Oyster Lover "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 472	The Sub and SD are a bit top-heavy compared to the lighter bracelet, but that bracelet is as tough as they come - it can take quite a bit of abuse that others will cave under...

22 August 2007, 11:16 AM	#4
Roman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 12	That's what I was worried about (how strong it was). She said it was about 2 years old.

22 August 2007, 11:32 AM	#6
Roman "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 12	Thanks guys for the quick answers!

22 August 2007, 11:34 PM	#8
Solar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North America Watch: their hands, baby. Posts: 1,116	My AD did a side by side comparison of the SD and the Sub to show that the SD has the thicker links, its fairly apparent without any specific measuring tools. The SD bracelet I'm told and if anyone has any info to the contrary, please correct me, is the bad boy of the Rolex world. C

22 August 2007, 11:36 PM	#9
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,553	Thanks Solar, that's good information on that "bad boy"

22 August 2007, 11:40 PM	#10
frostie 1,000,000th PostMember Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Earth Posts: 14,048	well i do believe the same thing solar

23 August 2007, 12:03 AM	#12
Solar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North America Watch: their hands, baby. Posts: 1,116	SELS= Solid End Links. Previously, the bracelet was attached to the case by a bent piece of steel. Mike has photos of this older design. Some felt the non-SELs were noisier, making rattling noises and less substantial. The current models have a solid piece of steel that forms the attachment to the case. This is slightly heavier, and makes less noise in the movement of daily use. I don't have any photos, but the links on my "old" GMT II 16710 Pepsi (Z series bought in March 2007) are visibly thinner than the beefy links of my Sea Dweller. When I get my macro lens in operation, I'll post some pix. Chris

23 August 2007, 12:36 AM	#15
Solar "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North America Watch: their hands, baby. Posts: 1,116	Fine with me that the centre links on my SD are hollow, freaking thing is 147 g and I believe the heaviest stainless/TT Rolex in production. My AD said that the SD bracelet is a work of art that performs beyond expectations based on what the routine servicing shows. No bracelet is forever, you may recall a post by outgoing forum member Nick Hacko about Rollies in the bottom of the bay in Syndey, Australia, due to worn bracelet pins that failed when hitting the surf/diving. Be interesting to get the opinion of a watchmaker on luxury watch/jewel-tool band toughness (ie Omega vs Rolex vs Kobold etc). C

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