Watch Rankings

[The Crown]

An AD told me there was a ranking of watch makers as to how accurate the watches were, along other criteria, with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. Do any of you know what he was reffering to? Would be interesting to check out.
Thanks
Phillip

[frostie]

i have no idea about that. Let's see what the other forum members will say

[roadcarver]

For accuracy (not specifically targetting automatics), I think a superquartz would be at the top of a list.

[frostie]

what's the difference of a quartz and a superquatz?

[Stef_Call]

errrrrrr??? I'll take a guess SuperQuartz is more accurate ?? :)

[frostie]

So superquartz is more accurate than quartz ?

[Stef_Call]

SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

[Stef_Call]

Originally Posted by Stef_Call

SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

Or so I read on another forum

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Stef_Call

SuperQuartz compensates for temperature changes which is why it is so much more accurate

That's right...it's also called a THERMOCOMPENSATED Quartz movement.

Owned a Longines VHP (Very High Precision) once which was fitted with such a quartz movement. Super duper accurate....within 1 second a month....guaranteed.

JJ

[frostie]

somebody is going to answer to our question. Let's be patient and stop confusing ourselves

[BiG JeEzY]

I heard radio controlled quartz watches are one of the most accurate in the world. Its like having an atomic clock on your wrist. Only less than a second off after one year.

[Stef_Call]

Think it just got answered !!

[frostie]

Originally Posted by JJ Irani

That's right...it's also called a THERMOCOMPENSATED Quartz movement.

Owned a Longines VHP (Very High Precision) once which was fitted with such a quartz movement. Super duper accurate....within 1 second a month....guaranteed.

JJ

Thanks for the info JJ

[frostie]

Originally Posted by Stef_Call

Think it just got answered !!

You were right from the beginning

[roadcarver]

Darn... I missed the party!

[frostie]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Darn... I missed the party!

[BiG JeEzY]

Originally Posted by roadcarver

Darn... I missed the party!

You were only about 15 or so minutes late, the party's just getting started up in here!

[roadcarver]

LOL! I was busy surfing watchnet.com

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

You were only about 15 or so minutes late, the party's just getting started up in here!

[Tools]

Originally Posted by The Crown

An AD told me there was a ranking of watch makers as to how accurate the watches were, along other criteria, with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. ...Thanks
Phillip

A comment by an AD should not be taken as any more than that....

Subjective "polls" and "rankings" are everywhere, as well as unsupported comments and rumors....usually for the purpose of "proving" the sponsors or commentors point...

As an item of interest, Forbes magazine just came out with the 10 "essential" items a man should have in his wardrobe....For a watch it was the Submariner - of course, it also said he should have a pair of Levis 501's and they cost 198 bucks, so take that for what it's worth also.

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by The Crown

....with Patek at the top and rolex sitting about #5. Do any of you know what he was reffering to? Would be interesting to check out.
Thanks
Phillip

I saw this "World Rang List" of watches somewhere here on TRF (had it saved as a Word document, but cannot find the link), but on that list, Rolex is "number 5", too:

Tier 1 High End Luxury
a) Patek Phillippe A. Lange & Sohne
b) Audemars Piguet Vacheron Constantin
c) Breguet Glasshutte Original Girrard Perregaux Blancpain
d) Ulysse Nardin Franck Muller Jaeger LeCoultre F.P. Journe

Tier 2 Luxury
a) IWC Rolex Piaget
b) Cartier Chopard Maurice Lacroix
c) Breitling Omega Chronoswiss
d) Bvlgari Zenith

Tier 3 Transitory Luxury
a) Baume & Mercier Raymond Weil
b) Tag Heuer
c)
d)

Tier 4 Basic Luxury
a) Movado Rado
b) Fortis
c) Oris Revue Thommen
d)

[frostie]

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I saw this "World Rang List" of watches somewhere here on TRF (had it saved as a Word document, but cannot find the link), but on that list, Rolex is "number 5", too:

Tier 1 High End Luxury
a) Patek Phillippe A. Lange & Sohne
b) Audemars Piguet Vacheron Constantin
c) Breguet Glasshutte Original Girrard Perregaux Blancpain
d) Ulysse Nardin Franck Muller Jaeger LeCoultre F.P. Journe

Tier 2 Luxury
a) IWC Rolex Piaget
b) Cartier Chopard Maurice Lacroix
c) Breitling Omega Chronoswiss
d) Bvlgari Zenith

Tier 3 Transitory Luxury
a) Baume & Mercier Raymond Weil
b) Tag Heuer
c)
d)

Tier 4 Basic Luxury
a) Movado Rado
b) Fortis
c) Oris Revue Thommen
d)

That's intersting info bo thanks for sharing

[Tools]

So if you believe that, the Swatch Groups ETA movement watches are in the Tier 1 luxury category and the lowly Rolex and IWC are only able to make it to a Tier 2...

I shoulda bought a Rado and stuck with the basics..

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

I saw this "World Rang List" of watches somewhere here on TRF (had it saved as a Word document, but cannot find the link), but on that list, Rolex is "number 5", too:

Tier 1 High End Luxury
a) Patek Phillippe A. Lange & Sohne
b) Audemars Piguet Vacheron Constantin
c) Breguet Glasshutte Original Girrard Perregaux Blancpain
d) Ulysse Nardin Franck Muller Jaeger LeCoultre F.P. Journe

Tier 2 Luxury
a) IWC Rolex Piaget
b) Cartier Chopard Maurice Lacroix
c) Breitling Omega Chronoswiss
d) Bvlgari Zenith

Tier 3 Transitory Luxury
a) Baume & Mercier Raymond Weil
b) Tag Heuer
c)
d)

Tier 4 Basic Luxury
a) Movado Rado
b) Fortis
c) Oris Revue Thommen
d)

UN and GP in the Super Luxury tier?

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

UN and GP in the Super Luxury tier?

Well, I did not make that list

But I assume that the list is made on the principles "How many watches made per year" + "in-house movements or not".

Rolex has now in-house movements ONLY, but then again makes about 900,000 watches a year.

Patek has also solely in-house movements but makes FAR less. That makes for a Tier 1.

IWC makes also far less watches than Rolex, but does seldomly make OWN movements, but mostly modifies ETA movements. UN + GP, however, would also use modified NON in-house movements, but movements of higher built quality than ETA's (for example PERRELET movements in GP watches!) and also make fewer watches than Rolex per year. This would put them in a higher tier than Rolex.

[supermarz]

hmmm i wonder why breguet is below audemars.... i wouldve thought its the other way around.
franck muller has some nice designs but in my opinion it is overprice for what it is. havign said that though some collectors in asia are crazy about them. i saw franck muller's store when i was in hong kong ....PHWOA.....!! you can almost live in the place.

funny how this luxury tier doesnt really represent the re selling value of the watches. i think patek and rolex are the only two that holds their resell value best out of all. (except for collectors pieces that is put up in auction houses liek sothebys christies etc)