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Jede89 · 1 February 2012, 07:57 PM

Hey guys, looking at this GMT on eBay.. No bids thus far and good price but looking closely at the bracelet and it looks a bit suspicious to me.. I am no expert by any means but would value your opinion. Thanks!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Stainless...ht_3463wt_1188

GradyPhilpott · 1 February 2012, 08:59 PM

The bracelet definitely looks fake.

The coronet on the clasp is horrible.

The bracelet has a diver's extension.

The watch head actually looks pretty good to me, but I don't claim to be an expert. The cyclops looks a little weird, but I'm not familiar with every nuance of every model.

These are just my observations, for whatever they are worth

Jede89 · 1 February 2012, 09:16 PM

Yeah my thoughts exactly.. I thought the head looked okay.. But the bracelet just looked really bad.. A divers extension for a GMT should be a give away.. And comparing it to other 93150 bracelets the stamps look really poor.. Thanks for your input!

LeotheLion · 1 February 2012, 09:46 PM

Don't know about the watch but the bracelet is definitely a fake.

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robertneville · 1 February 2012, 10:20 PM

watch looks ok...band not so much.

Jede89 · 1 February 2012, 10:42 PM

Have contacted the seller so will let you know when i get a reply. Thanks everyone for your input!

Jede89 · 2 February 2012, 09:58 AM

Seller said he had his watch makers check the bracelet and they said it was genuine and then took it to a rolex AD and they also said it was genuine.. What do you guys think?

toph · 2 February 2012, 10:05 AM

at best it is an older sub bracelet.... clasp code, i4 it looks like, which would be from 1984 i think

tudorman8276 · 2 February 2012, 12:24 PM

...camera lens/angle/lighting or a combination of for the buckle/clasp.

GradyPhilpott · 2 February 2012, 12:41 PM

I say the seller is a liar, but that's just my opinion.

tudorman8276 · 2 February 2012, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I say the seller is a liar, but that's just my opinion.

...has sold several high end watches.

...gotta give the seller the benefit of the doubt on this one..

GradyPhilpott · 2 February 2012, 12:55 PM

Okay, I do value the opinions of those more expert than myself, but please allow me to introduce into evidence the two blow-up photos below.

If the consensus is that these elements of the bracelet are genuine, then I will have learned something valuable today.

MoBe · 2 February 2012, 02:54 PM

Just sold for $3700.00,I sure hope it`s ok.

GradyPhilpott · 2 February 2012, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoBe

Just sold for $3700.00,I sure hope it`s ok.

Yep!

Jede89 · 2 February 2012, 04:43 PM

The most obvious part on the fake bracelet IMO was the divers extension.. It looked terrible and the other stamping on the bracelet looked really poor as well.. Oh well hopefully for the sake of the buyer it was okay! Thanks for all your input!

dieseldragon · 2 February 2012, 05:59 PM

I don't see any problem with it, other than it is not new and mint. and to my knowledge GMT was available with option of this bracelet.

Andad · 2 February 2012, 06:25 PM

At best it's a bitsa.

GradyPhilpott · 3 February 2012, 02:43 AM

The clasp stampings don't look like any genuine Rolex I've ever seen, but what the hey, Grady is just a cog in the wheel of WISdom.

1 February 2012, 07:57 PM	#1
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	Rolex GMT Master II Ebay Hey guys, looking at this GMT on eBay.. No bids thus far and good price but looking closely at the bracelet and it looks a bit suspicious to me.. I am no expert by any means but would value your opinion. Thanks! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Stainless...ht_3463wt_1188

1 February 2012, 08:59 PM	#2
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,447	The bracelet definitely looks fake. The coronet on the clasp is horrible. The bracelet has a diver's extension. The watch head actually looks pretty good to me, but I don't claim to be an expert. The cyclops looks a little weird, but I'm not familiar with every nuance of every model. These are just my observations, for whatever they are worth __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

1 February 2012, 10:20 PM	#5
robertneville "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Greg Location: PA Watch: me burn Posts: 1,435	watch looks ok...band not so much. __________________ Motocross is life!

2 February 2012, 10:05 AM	#8
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	at best it is an older sub bracelet.... clasp code, i4 it looks like, which would be from 1984 i think __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

2 February 2012, 12:24 PM	#9
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...it could simply be... ...camera lens/angle/lighting or a combination of for the buckle/clasp.

1 February 2012, 09:16 PM	#3
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	Yeah my thoughts exactly.. I thought the head looked okay.. But the bracelet just looked really bad.. A divers extension for a GMT should be a give away.. And comparing it to other 93150 bracelets the stamps look really poor.. Thanks for your input!

1 February 2012, 09:46 PM	#4
LeotheLion Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dennis Location: England Watch: GMT2 and Datejust Posts: 440	Don't know about the watch but the bracelet is definitely a fake. ..

1 February 2012, 10:42 PM	#6
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	Have contacted the seller so will let you know when i get a reply. Thanks everyone for your input!

2 February 2012, 09:58 AM	#7
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	Seller said he had his watch makers check the bracelet and they said it was genuine and then took it to a rolex AD and they also said it was genuine.. What do you guys think?

2 February 2012, 12:41 PM	#10
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,447	I say the seller is a liar, but that's just my opinion. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

2 February 2012, 02:54 PM	#13
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	Just sold for $3700.00,I sure hope it`s ok.

2 February 2012, 04:43 PM	#15
Jede89 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Black Bay Posts: 221	The most obvious part on the fake bracelet IMO was the divers extension.. It looked terrible and the other stamping on the bracelet looked really poor as well.. Oh well hopefully for the sake of the buyer it was okay! Thanks for all your input!

2 February 2012, 05:59 PM	#16
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	I don't see any problem with it, other than it is not new and mint. and to my knowledge GMT was available with option of this bracelet. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

2 February 2012, 06:25 PM	#17
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,479	At best it's a bitsa. __________________ E

3 February 2012, 02:43 AM	#18
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK050 Posts: 34,447	The clasp stampings don't look like any genuine Rolex I've ever seen, but what the hey, Grady is just a cog in the wheel of WISdom. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

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