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p_mcgee · 2 March 2012, 03:58 AM

I finally got around to timing my two month old PAM 177 (purchased BNIB) and found it to be over 60 seconds slow in 24 hours on a full wind. Ugh. My old PAM 48 didn't keep time accurately, either.

The 177 is under warranty, so I'm thinking about sending it off to Panerai Service Center in Texas. After reading the reviews here on TRF, that facility seems like amateur hour. Almost wondering whether it would be better to just take it to my local guy to be regulated. It would probably cost a couple hundred dollars, but no 2 month turnaround time & worries about it getting hacked up. What would you do?

I never seem to have these problems with my Rolexes, all of which are just about spot-on.

B. Doggy · 2 March 2012, 07:32 AM

Yeah, with an ETA movement is would be much easier to have it done locally. Many here have done that. Me, I like my watches touched only by the SC. I also don't have a local guy either though....

p_mcgee · 2 March 2012, 12:44 PM

I rested it on the other side (crown down) for another 24 hours without re-winding and now its come back to -20 secs over 2 days. Probably not enough variance for me to bother with a service.

I assume that the side on which it's stored & the amount it's wound have an undue influence on its accuracy.

Shade · 2 March 2012, 01:07 PM

Have it adjusted. It shouldn't run that low.

red1108nyc · 2 March 2012, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by p_mcgee

I finally got around to timing my two month old PAM 177 (purchased BNIB) and found it to be over 60 seconds slow in 24 hours on a full wind. Ugh. My old PAM 48 didn't keep time accurately, either.

The 177 is under warranty, so I'm thinking about sending it off to Panerai Service Center in Texas. After reading the reviews here on TRF, that facility seems like amateur hour. Almost wondering whether it would be better to just take it to my local guy to be regulated. It would probably cost a couple hundred dollars, but no 2 month turnaround time & worries about it getting hacked up. What would you do?

I never seem to have these problems with my Rolexes, all of which are just about spot-on.

Could it be magnitized? A competent watchmaker and a trustworthy one can probably check it out very quickly and espcially for an ETA based movement.

Worst case... send it back under warranty.

Best,

Fred

p_mcgee · 2 March 2012, 01:39 PM

OK off it goes, thanks for the advice

canwatchco · 3 March 2012, 06:17 AM

Most watchmakers do NOT have the correct tool for removing the caseback. Only a truly careful considerate watchmaker will care not to scratch the caseback. Others will use ill fitting tools and leave permanent scars.

Sending it to Panerai not only guarantees that it will be properly opened, but they will also replace the gasket and close it properly as well.

Lessons learned the hard way. :-(

2 March 2012, 03:58 AM	#1
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	1 minute slow per day I finally got around to timing my two month old PAM 177 (purchased BNIB) and found it to be over 60 seconds slow in 24 hours on a full wind. Ugh. My old PAM 48 didn't keep time accurately, either. The 177 is under warranty, so I'm thinking about sending it off to Panerai Service Center in Texas. After reading the reviews here on TRF, that facility seems like amateur hour. Almost wondering whether it would be better to just take it to my local guy to be regulated. It would probably cost a couple hundred dollars, but no 2 month turnaround time & worries about it getting hacked up. What would you do? I never seem to have these problems with my Rolexes, all of which are just about spot-on.

2 March 2012, 07:32 AM	#2
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Yeah, with an ETA movement is would be much easier to have it done locally. Many here have done that. Me, I like my watches touched only by the SC. I also don't have a local guy either though.... __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

2 March 2012, 01:07 PM	#4
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	Have it adjusted. It shouldn't run that low. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

2 March 2012, 12:44 PM	#3
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	I rested it on the other side (crown down) for another 24 hours without re-winding and now its come back to -20 secs over 2 days. Probably not enough variance for me to bother with a service. I assume that the side on which it's stored & the amount it's wound have an undue influence on its accuracy.

2 March 2012, 01:39 PM	#6
p_mcgee "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,150	OK off it goes, thanks for the advice

3 March 2012, 06:17 AM	#7
canwatchco "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Bobby Location: Montreal Posts: 6,425	Most watchmakers do NOT have the correct tool for removing the caseback. Only a truly careful considerate watchmaker will care not to scratch the caseback. Others will use ill fitting tools and leave permanent scars. Sending it to Panerai not only guarantees that it will be properly opened, but they will also replace the gasket and close it properly as well. Lessons learned the hard way. :-(

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