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pwriterman · 4 March 2012, 07:29 AM

Have a line on an 18k YG President, Ref. No. 803, with diamond dial and bezel. Question: is the bezel an aftermarket bezel, or did Rolex make diamond bezels in this model, which is a non quick set, and I think dates to late 1960s...?
Also, is $3200 too much just for the watch head, no bracelet..in good condition and working well..?
Thanks for what I know will be astute answers!

Kingair · 4 March 2012, 08:04 AM

Show some pics and you'll get loads of info.

pwriterman · 4 March 2012, 08:31 AM

Ok, sorry for the photo quality....but here's the best I can do at moment..

gwalker · 4 March 2012, 08:34 AM

IMO price is high. You might do better posting in vintage section. Good luck. It is a cool watch. Sorry I can't answer your questions.

joe100 · 4 March 2012, 10:49 AM

Looks aftermarket to me, too thin

oceandweller · 4 March 2012, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pwriterman

Have a line on an 18k YG President, Ref. No. 803, with diamond dial and bezel. Question: is the bezel an aftermarket bezel, or did Rolex make diamond bezels in this model, which is a non quick set, and I think dates to late 1960s...?
Also, is $3200 too much just for the watch head, no bracelet..in good condition and working well..?
Thanks for what I know will be astute answers!

At that price I reckon, you will never get Rolex factory-original bezel with diamonds. Rolex will always use top quality diamonds, more than likely Wesselton, for their watches. From the blurry pix, it can be deduced, the bezel is after-market.

Paladin · 4 March 2012, 12:28 PM

Just say NO to diamonds that is IF you are a man!

Jackxv · 4 March 2012, 06:22 PM

Both dial and bezel are aftermarket.

I also don't like the crystal

Original dial 300 to 400
Original bezel 300 to 400
New Plexi 100.

So count in 1K , from this point you'll have other options. Ask Greekbum (Nick Gogas) he has incoming 1803 and 18038 through out the year and is a respectable guy.

Jack

oceandweller · 4 March 2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Paladin

Just say NO to diamonds that is IF you are a man!

Not only that, the price of a Rolex watch with factory-original diamonds (dial or bezel) is mighty expensive and not many can afford such a luxury. As a result of which, there are many aftermarket ones, floating around.

joe100 · 5 March 2012, 02:54 AM

I agree with everyone here. The acrylic looks funny

RLXSTR · 6 March 2012, 03:21 AM

Many of the Non-Quickset Dials with diamonds are original except for the diamonds themselves. The diamonds were usually added by a jeweler per customer request. I've seen so many non-quickset dial conversations and I have yet to see one I like.

The diamond bezel on this is aftermarket. My understanding is the non-quickset Day Dates did not come with diamond bezels from the factory but added afterwards. You can always have it removed, add a nice 18K fluted bezel and change to a correct crystal to make it look better than it does now.

The Non-quickset Day Dates look classier without diamonds and on a high quality leather strap.

Rikki · 6 March 2012, 11:18 AM

Actually the ref # is 1803 your missing a digit and the dial and bezel are most likely aftermarket. Scrap value in gold is around 1200 dollars so 2000 grand for am parts and movement kinda steep. IMO Rikki

4 March 2012, 07:29 AM	#1
pwriterman Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: USA Posts: 66	A question, oh Rolex gurus! Have a line on an 18k YG President, Ref. No. 803, with diamond dial and bezel. Question: is the bezel an aftermarket bezel, or did Rolex make diamond bezels in this model, which is a non quick set, and I think dates to late 1960s...? Also, is $3200 too much just for the watch head, no bracelet..in good condition and working well..? Thanks for what I know will be astute answers!

4 March 2012, 10:49 AM	#5
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,838	Looks aftermarket to me, too thin __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

4 March 2012, 12:28 PM	#7
Paladin "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: So. California Posts: 1,232	Just say NO to diamonds that is IF you are a man! __________________ 1601, 1675/3, 16753, 16750, 16750, 16700, 16610, 18238

4 March 2012, 06:22 PM	#8
Jackxv "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 969	Both dial and bezel are aftermarket. I also don't like the crystal Original dial 300 to 400 Original bezel 300 to 400 New Plexi 100. So count in 1K , from this point you'll have other options. Ask Greekbum (Nick Gogas) he has incoming 1803 and 18038 through out the year and is a respectable guy. Jack __________________ If it's to vintage to wear...it's worthless Wear the crown like ik should be , don't pamper it

5 March 2012, 02:54 AM	#10
joe100 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: New Mexico Watch: Explorer Posts: 12,838	I agree with everyone here. The acrylic looks funny __________________ It's Espresso, not Expresso. Coffee is not a train in Italy. -TRF Member 6982-

4 March 2012, 08:04 AM	#2
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,232	Show some pics and you'll get loads of info.

4 March 2012, 08:34 AM	#4
gwalker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Gunter Location: AL/NJ Watch: DSSD; 116610LN Posts: 5,509	IMO price is high. You might do better posting in vintage section. Good luck. It is a cool watch. Sorry I can't answer your questions.

6 March 2012, 03:21 AM	#11
RLXSTR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Donald Location: Texas Watch: Sub5513 / Choc1675 Posts: 826	Many of the Non-Quickset Dials with diamonds are original except for the diamonds themselves. The diamonds were usually added by a jeweler per customer request. I've seen so many non-quickset dial conversations and I have yet to see one I like. The diamond bezel on this is aftermarket. My understanding is the non-quickset Day Dates did not come with diamond bezels from the factory but added afterwards. You can always have it removed, add a nice 18K fluted bezel and change to a correct crystal to make it look better than it does now. The Non-quickset Day Dates look classier without diamonds and on a high quality leather strap. __________________ '66 5513 Meters First \| '77 1675 Chocolate \| '85 DateJust 2-Tone \| Omega Planet Ocean Chrono XL Orange \| 1978 Omega Speedmaster 1st Walk on the Moon

6 March 2012, 11:18 AM	#12
Rikki TechXpert Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rik Dietel Location: Seminole Fla Watch: 5512 s/s Sub Posts: 1,818	Actually the ref # is 1803 your missing a digit and the dial and bezel are most likely aftermarket. Scrap value in gold is around 1200 dollars so 2000 grand for am parts and movement kinda steep. IMO Rikki __________________ Century 21 Certified watchmaker Omega Service Provider Trained Omega OWME Certified. Rolex Parts Account Holder.

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