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Grailor · 9 April 2012, 02:58 AM

Hi,

Advice please!? I have just purchased a 1999 Submariner date, stainless steel black dial - at the 6 o'clock position it shows 'swiss made', however on a number of forums I have seen that 1999 subs have just 'swiss' in this position. Please could someone tell me when 'swiss', switched to 'swiss made', is my model on the cusp of the change?

Cheers,
Grailor

nyyankees · 9 April 2012, 03:00 AM

A serial was the switch-over from Tritium to Luminova. Most A serial will say SWISS at the botton. If it says SWISS MADE it could be a service dial. Others may weigh-in too here.

Grailor · 9 April 2012, 03:28 AM

Thanks for the response. So are you saying that the change from swiss to swiss made happened during the 'A' serial number. I think mine was around October 1999, based on the clasp code (X10).

Zirotti · 9 April 2012, 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyyankees

A serial was the switch-over from Tritium to Luminova. Most A serial will say SWISS at the botton. If it says SWISS MADE it could be a service dial. Others may weigh-in too here.

Excellent. Thanks.

padi56 · 9 April 2012, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grailor

Hi,

Advice please!? I have just purchased a 1999 Submariner date, stainless steel black dial - at the 6 o'clock position it shows 'swiss made', however on a number of forums I have seen that 1999 subs have just 'swiss' in this position. Please could someone tell me when 'swiss', switched to 'swiss made', is my model on the cusp of the change?

Cheers,
Grailor

Well today with Rolex nothing is written in stone although the change from Tritium to Luminover was around 1998 with the A serials.All these Internet codes are just a approximation when a case/clasp was stamped and not when a watch was made.Now A serials ran from November 1998 till approx December 1999 but could be overlaped.And they started using Swiss Made early 2000 on, so its possible some of the last of the A serial cases could have Swiss Made on Dial.

Grailor · 9 April 2012, 04:16 AM

Many thanks. The watch is in great condition and I am really happy with it but this was the one 'concern' I had. Is there anything else I can do to check whether this is the 'original' dial? Guess we could poll for any tother A series 'swiss made' Submariners!!!!?

crman · 9 April 2012, 04:24 AM

My explorer II u series Swiss

Kingair · 9 April 2012, 05:21 AM

Here you go

Swiss Dials

On modern day Rolex it was the change from Tritium dials to Luminover roughly from 1998 till 2000, A and P series possible late U series, then sometime in 2000 they switched to Swiss Made.But Swiss was used on all Rolex watches till around 1960 but then the lume was radio active radium.

Happy Easter

Tools · 9 April 2012, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grailor

Many thanks. The watch is in great condition and I am really happy with it but this was the one 'concern' I had. Is there anything else I can do to check whether this is the 'original' dial? Guess we could poll for any tother A series 'swiss made' Submariners!!!!?

It is extremely unlikely that a watch only a decade old would have had the original dial changed.

Even if it did though, it would be irrelevant as you would have no way to know..

lebowski321 · 9 April 2012, 02:10 PM

My "A" serial GMTII says "Swiss Made".

superdelsol · 9 April 2012, 02:19 PM

My A-serial GMT-Master II has the Super-LumiNova dial, and is marked "Swiss Made". It also has solid end links, and the SELs are usually associated with GMT-Master II watches produced in 2000 and later.

Watchzombie · 9 April 2012, 02:59 PM

I got a U series Submariner with "SWISS" Dial as well. I would say late U to A series would have the "SWISS" dial. Production would be 1-2 years.

Kingair · 9 April 2012, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Watchzombie

I got a U series Submariner with "SWISS" Dial as well. I would say late U to A series would have the "SWISS" dial. Production would be 1-2 years.

Shall we start a SUB Swiss owner topic ?

Just an idea ;-)

HANW

FloridaSam · 10 April 2012, 02:27 AM

My A series 14060 with clasp code X11 has "Swiss Made"

9 April 2012, 02:58 AM	#1
Grailor "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London Posts: 3	swiss v swiss made Hi, Advice please!? I have just purchased a 1999 Submariner date, stainless steel black dial - at the 6 o'clock position it shows 'swiss made', however on a number of forums I have seen that 1999 subs have just 'swiss' in this position. Please could someone tell me when 'swiss', switched to 'swiss made', is my model on the cusp of the change? Cheers, Grailor

9 April 2012, 02:19 PM	#11
superdelsol "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Scott Location: Arizona, USA Watch: your 6. Posts: 388	My A-serial GMT-Master II has the Super-LumiNova dial, and is marked "Swiss Made". It also has solid end links, and the SELs are usually associated with GMT-Master II watches produced in 2000 and later. __________________ "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Dr. Richard P. Feynman, Rogers Commission Report, Appendix F, 9 June 1986

9 April 2012, 03:00 AM	#2
nyyankees "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southeastern PA Watch: 1216610 Posts: 2,131	A serial was the switch-over from Tritium to Luminova. Most A serial will say SWISS at the botton. If it says SWISS MADE it could be a service dial. Others may weigh-in too here.

9 April 2012, 03:28 AM	#3
Grailor "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London Posts: 3	Thanks for the response. So are you saying that the change from swiss to swiss made happened during the 'A' serial number. I think mine was around October 1999, based on the clasp code (X10).

9 April 2012, 04:16 AM	#6
Grailor "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: London Posts: 3	Many thanks. The watch is in great condition and I am really happy with it but this was the one 'concern' I had. Is there anything else I can do to check whether this is the 'original' dial? Guess we could poll for any tother A series 'swiss made' Submariners!!!!?

9 April 2012, 04:24 AM	#7
crman Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: north carolina Posts: 20	My explorer II u series Swiss

9 April 2012, 05:21 AM	#8
Kingair "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Watch: Not enough ;-) Posts: 21,233	Here you go Swiss Dials On modern day Rolex it was the change from Tritium dials to Luminover roughly from 1998 till 2000, A and P series possible late U series, then sometime in 2000 they switched to Swiss Made.But Swiss was used on all Rolex watches till around 1960 but then the lume was radio active radium. Happy Easter

9 April 2012, 02:10 PM	#10
lebowski321 Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Tyler Location: Hill Country, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 496	My "A" serial GMTII says "Swiss Made".

9 April 2012, 02:59 PM	#12
Watchzombie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Green City Posts: 155	I got a U series Submariner with "SWISS" Dial as well. I would say late U to A series would have the "SWISS" dial. Production would be 1-2 years.

10 April 2012, 02:27 AM	#14
FloridaSam "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Sam Location: Sunny Florida Watch: Rolex 16013 Posts: 291	My A series 14060 with clasp code X11 has "Swiss Made"

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