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Jltoole · 22 May 2012, 03:56 PM

Hey everybody! I'm obviously very new to the forums and don't really know much about fine watches, but I was looking to possibly getting an appraisal for one of mine. A few years ago, my grandfather passed away and passed down his collection of luxury watches to me. Amongst them, he left me this Rolex Submariner that he won off of a friend in a bet in Aspen. I am currently looking to sell the watch in order to get money towards a car for myself as I am currently off at college and would like a means of transportation. The watch is in working order with very little damage other than a scratch near the center of the crystal. I was wondering if I would be better off selling it as-is or getting the crystal repaired? I also don't have either the original paperwork or the original box it came in. Any advice would be greatly appreciated in helping me.

Here is the photo of the watch if it helps: http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...filter=noflash

Best wishes to everybody!
Jack

Jltoole · 23 May 2012, 12:31 PM

Any help would be great!

dbphotos · 23 May 2012, 01:41 PM

Here's a photo for everyone to see.

I am suspicious about the watch. First the band does not belong on the watch and the dial has some issues for a ND Sub. I'll let a few others chime in.

Take the band off and take a photo of the serial # and model # located between the lugs (the part that holds the band in place) and post it here.

Jltoole · 23 May 2012, 02:58 PM

The band has been replaced. i forgot to mention that in the description.

crowncollection · 23 May 2012, 05:43 PM

Crown guards are off to me, also that dial is either a bad refinished one or fake to start with, it's clearly incorrect.

RolexWatcher · 23 May 2012, 06:23 PM

Fake at the moment unless you can provide more pics

rolex_DateJust · 23 May 2012, 08:00 PM

Watch screams out fake from all over the place. Incorrect band for sure and even if it was replaced, why would they replace it with a "jubilee" bracelet unless of course, it's one of those $100 bands you can find anywhere. We definitely need more photos of serial- model #'s

onions · 23 May 2012, 08:04 PM

Amazing how many watches get 'inherited' from grandfathers...

mrbill2mrbill2 · 23 May 2012, 08:27 PM

I say FAKE.

Bangel · 23 May 2012, 09:16 PM

Doesn't look right.

robertneville · 23 May 2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bangel

Doesn't look right.

i agree, does not look right.

rolex_DateJust · 23 May 2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by onions

Amazing how many watches get 'inherited' from grandfathers...

THIS! As soon as I read "A few years ago, my grandfather passed away and passed down his collection of luxury watches to me" I didn't have to keep on reading anymore

bondtoys · 24 May 2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by onions

Amazing how many watches get 'inherited' from grandfathers...

....and it seems to be a kind of rule, that the grandfathers only bought crap fakes

azguy · 24 May 2012, 12:24 AM

fake

Lmbeauleap · 24 May 2012, 01:04 AM

My daughter better not be on here someday saying "I just inherited a GMT from my father and I was wondering if it was real..."

She should KNOW it's real.

mdesa · 24 May 2012, 03:24 AM

Don't mean to make accusations but I remember this story about a watch almost word-for-word in an eBay auction months ago. The bit about being a college student needing a car and everything.

mltworldwide · 24 May 2012, 03:47 AM

that this guy is a tool. :) Just kidding! No offense if there is any truth to the story. Somehow I doubt it. You know actually the bracelet may be the most valuable part of the watch. Maybe worth $5.

onions · 24 May 2012, 06:48 AM

And yet again, nothing further from the beneficiary type OP...

Maybe there should be a minimum post count required before being able to post in the "watch out" section?

Although they are amusing albeit repetitive ...

QueueCumber · 24 May 2012, 07:37 AM

OMG, I'm begging you Jltoole, wash that blanket. If I look at the close-ups of those long black hairs on it again I am going to wretch.....

mrbill2mrbill2 · 24 May 2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by onions

And yet again, nothing further from the beneficiary type OP...

Maybe there should be a minimum post count required before being able to post in the "watch out" section?

Although they are amusing albeit repetitive ...

Good idea - I agree.

dbphotos · 24 May 2012, 11:38 AM

My first thought (besides the band) was that a 4 line ND Sub should have white gold outlines on the markers, correct? Did they make any 4 liners without gold framed markers?

Jltoole · 24 May 2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dbphotos

My first thought (besides the band) was that a 4 line ND Sub should have white gold outlines on the markers, correct? Did they make any 4 liners without gold framed markers?

Thats actually my carpet, just got it cleaned today! Thanks for the input everybody!

RolexWatcher · 24 May 2012, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jltoole

Thats actually my carpet, just got it cleaned today! Thanks for the input everybody!

dbphotos · 25 May 2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jltoole

Thats actually my carpet, just got it cleaned today! Thanks for the input everybody!

garymyman · 25 May 2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jltoole

he left me this Rolex Submariner that he won off of a friend in a bet in Aspen.

I keep a glove box full of bogus watches so I can welch on bets.

22 May 2012, 03:56 PM	#1
Jltoole "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Owings Mills, MD Posts: 4	Need help appraising a Rolex Hey everybody! I'm obviously very new to the forums and don't really know much about fine watches, but I was looking to possibly getting an appraisal for one of mine. A few years ago, my grandfather passed away and passed down his collection of luxury watches to me. Amongst them, he left me this Rolex Submariner that he won off of a friend in a bet in Aspen. I am currently looking to sell the watch in order to get money towards a car for myself as I am currently off at college and would like a means of transportation. The watch is in working order with very little damage other than a scratch near the center of the crystal. I was wondering if I would be better off selling it as-is or getting the crystal repaired? I also don't have either the original paperwork or the original box it came in. Any advice would be greatly appreciated in helping me. Here is the photo of the watch if it helps: http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...filter=noflash Best wishes to everybody! Jack

23 May 2012, 01:41 PM	#3
dbphotos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: David Location: Texas Watch: your 6! Posts: 898	Here's a photo for everyone to see. I am suspicious about the watch. First the band does not belong on the watch and the dial has some issues for a ND Sub. I'll let a few others chime in. Take the band off and take a photo of the serial # and model # located between the lugs (the part that holds the band in place) and post it here. __________________ www.DavidBailey.com Rolex DD YG 18238 \| Rolex 1675 Pepsi \| Rolex 14060 \| Rolex Vintage 6694 \| Rolex TT 16013 \| Tudor Tiger 79280P on Shark strap \| a whole bunch of misc watches

23 May 2012, 05:43 PM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,215	Crown guards are off to me, also that dial is either a bad refinished one or fake to start with, it's clearly incorrect. __________________ watches many

23 May 2012, 08:27 PM	#9
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	I say FAKE. __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

24 May 2012, 03:47 AM	#17
mltworldwide 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: florida Posts: 8,648	Maybe the OP screen name is a hint that this guy is a tool. :) Just kidding! No offense if there is any truth to the story. Somehow I doubt it. You know actually the bracelet may be the most valuable part of the watch. Maybe worth $5.

23 May 2012, 12:31 PM	#2
Jltoole "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Owings Mills, MD Posts: 4	Any help would be great!

23 May 2012, 02:58 PM	#4
Jltoole "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Owings Mills, MD Posts: 4	The band has been replaced. i forgot to mention that in the description.

23 May 2012, 06:23 PM	#6
RolexWatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: Vincent Location: LON HKG SYD Posts: 1,236	Fake at the moment unless you can provide more pics

23 May 2012, 08:00 PM	#7
rolex_DateJust 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Sergio Location: Miami, FL Watch: Yes please! Posts: 1,781	Watch screams out fake from all over the place. Incorrect band for sure and even if it was replaced, why would they replace it with a "jubilee" bracelet unless of course, it's one of those $100 bands you can find anywhere. We definitely need more photos of serial- model #'s

23 May 2012, 08:04 PM	#8
onions "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Worldwide Posts: 381	Amazing how many watches get 'inherited' from grandfathers...

23 May 2012, 09:16 PM	#10
Bangel "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Australia Watch: 116610LN Posts: 15,802	Doesn't look right.

24 May 2012, 12:24 AM	#14
azguy Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: ------- Location: ------- Watch: --------- Posts: 12,609	fake

24 May 2012, 01:04 AM	#15
Lmbeauleap "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Wisconsin Watch: Franken Posts: 437	My daughter better not be on here someday saying "I just inherited a GMT from my father and I was wondering if it was real..." She should KNOW it's real.

24 May 2012, 03:24 AM	#16
mdesa Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: chicago usa Watch: SS Sub 14060M Posts: 116	Don't mean to make accusations but I remember this story about a watch almost word-for-word in an eBay auction months ago. The bit about being a college student needing a car and everything.

24 May 2012, 06:48 AM	#18
onions "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Worldwide Posts: 381	And yet again, nothing further from the beneficiary type OP... Maybe there should be a minimum post count required before being able to post in the "watch out" section? Although they are amusing albeit repetitive ...

24 May 2012, 07:37 AM	#19
QueueCumber "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Q Location: The Q Continuum Watch: ST:TNG Posts: 8,466	OMG, I'm begging you Jltoole, wash that blanket. If I look at the close-ups of those long black hairs on it again I am going to wretch.....

24 May 2012, 11:38 AM	#21
dbphotos "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: David Location: Texas Watch: your 6! Posts: 898	My first thought (besides the band) was that a 4 line ND Sub should have white gold outlines on the markers, correct? Did they make any 4 liners without gold framed markers? __________________ www.DavidBailey.com Rolex DD YG 18238 \| Rolex 1675 Pepsi \| Rolex 14060 \| Rolex Vintage 6694 \| Rolex TT 16013 \| Tudor Tiger 79280P on Shark strap \| a whole bunch of misc watches

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