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gregvisser · 13 August 2012, 06:06 PM

Ok - got the message loud and clear on my Pam 190 review that I was too harsh on the lume count. I decided to hold a 'lume off'. Charged both a standard issue Rolex Sub C and the Pam 190 up equally. This is what they look like:

I gave the Pam 6/10 and the Rolex 8/10. Did I get it wrong?

Which do you prefer lume wise: Pam 190 or Rolex Sub C?

Greg

Andad · 13 August 2012, 06:24 PM

The real test is to charge them up at 10pm and check them both with one eye open at 3am.
IMO a pix after a charge doesn't mean a lot as the reduction of lume is geometricaly equal to the quality/quantity of the luminova.

The best one is my tritium tubed Ball Fireman II.

htc8p · 13 August 2012, 06:31 PM

i stick with pam for lume. no pesky round markers.

experimentjon · 13 August 2012, 07:47 PM

Not sure if this is true for superluminova, but I know that for tritium tubes, green trits are perceived by our eye to be much brighter than blue trits.

Relative brightness chart from a site that I loved when I collected flashlights

Source Link

nauticajoe · 13 August 2012, 09:27 PM

PAM's definitely have the better lume IMO.

Megalobyte · 13 August 2012, 10:35 PM

You need to blast both equally until glowing like a torch. Then leave them side by side in a pitch black room. Take a pic every hour for 8 hours. then post again. :)

(8 pics or it didn't happen, properly.) :)

Psmith · 13 August 2012, 11:38 PM

Panerai lume is very good, and the Rolex blue lume ('Chromalight') is cool - especially on the new Explorer II

Ball gas tubes are a must for lume afficionados - other companies use them as well (Deep Blue, et al)

Puffy · 14 August 2012, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psmith

Panerai lume is very good, and the Rolex blue lume ('Chromalight') is cool - especially on the new Explorer II

Ball gas tubes are a must for lume afficionados - other companies use them as well (Deep Blue, et al)

again, high five to clive - i agree the lume on these are like high spec miltary torches

mfer · 14 August 2012, 03:03 AM

It is all subjective really. My unofficial thoughts are that the Panerai Lume last longer than the Rolex I have (16610 and the 116710LN I had). The blue is REALLY bright in the begining, but I felt it doesn't last as long.

I remembered squinting at my Rolex in the middle of the night, but the Panerai was easy to read. Could also have something to do with the size.

nick c · 14 August 2012, 03:45 AM

very nice

B. Doggy · 14 August 2012, 10:15 AM

Hmmm. Well, there is a reason they call it a LUMinor. Panerai gets my vote, hands down. That pic you took was probably the first few seconds after charging.

gregvisser · 14 August 2012, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalobyte

Take a pic every hour for 8 hours. then post again. :)

What?!?! You are killing me. I need my beauty sleep. I am not committed enough to be a true WIS.

Greg

RRGHOST1 · 14 August 2012, 02:04 PM

Not a Pam fan but they have Rolex beaten on this one !

subtona · 14 August 2012, 02:19 PM

Pam hands down

important for me is the lume on the hands... the hour markers are really insignificant in telling the time.

Megalobyte · 14 August 2012, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregvisser

What?!?! You are killing me. I need my beauty sleep. I am not committed enough to be a true WIS.

Greg

You certainly do need your beauty sleep, no argument there!

Who said it had to be overnight? You don't have a dark room?

jfbclub · 14 August 2012, 09:33 PM

1 vote for the PAM

Psmith · 15 August 2012, 01:40 AM

PAM and Blancpain lume...

View Poll Results: Which has the better lume - Rolex Sub C or Pam 190
Rolex Sub C	9	30.00%
Pam 190	21	70.00%
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13 August 2012, 06:06 PM	#1
gregvisser "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Greg Visser Location: New Zealand Posts: 608	Lume off Ok - got the message loud and clear on my Pam 190 review that I was too harsh on the lume count. I decided to hold a 'lume off'. Charged both a standard issue Rolex Sub C and the Pam 190 up equally. This is what they look like: I gave the Pam 6/10 and the Rolex 8/10. Did I get it wrong? Which do you prefer lume wise: Pam 190 or Rolex Sub C? Greg

13 August 2012, 06:24 PM	#2
Andad 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,929	The real test is to charge them up at 10pm and check them both with one eye open at 3am. IMO a pix after a charge doesn't mean a lot as the reduction of lume is geometricaly equal to the quality/quantity of the luminova. The best one is my tritium tubed Ball Fireman II. __________________ E

13 August 2012, 11:38 PM	#7
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,855	Panerai lume is very good, and the Rolex blue lume ('Chromalight') is cool - especially on the new Explorer II Ball gas tubes are a must for lume afficionados - other companies use them as well (Deep Blue, et al) __________________

14 August 2012, 03:03 AM	#9
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	It is all subjective really. My unofficial thoughts are that the Panerai Lume last longer than the Rolex I have (16610 and the 116710LN I had). The blue is REALLY bright in the begining, but I felt it doesn't last as long. I remembered squinting at my Rolex in the middle of the night, but the Panerai was easy to read. Could also have something to do with the size. __________________ member#3242

13 August 2012, 06:31 PM	#3
htc8p "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Bert Location: philippines Watch: 116710 ln Posts: 3,490	i stick with pam for lume. no pesky round markers.

13 August 2012, 07:47 PM	#4
experimentjon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Real Name: Jonathan Location: Honolulu Posts: 292	Not sure if this is true for superluminova, but I know that for tritium tubes, green trits are perceived by our eye to be much brighter than blue trits. Relative brightness chart from a site that I loved when I collected flashlights Source Link

13 August 2012, 09:27 PM	#5
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,773	PAM's definitely have the better lume IMO.

13 August 2012, 10:35 PM	#6
Megalobyte "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Real Name: Ari Location: Florida Watch: ...me go broke Posts: 2,428	You need to blast both equally until glowing like a torch. Then leave them side by side in a pitch black room. Take a pic every hour for 8 hours. then post again. :) (8 pics or it didn't happen, properly.) :)

14 August 2012, 03:45 AM	#10
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,845	very nice

14 August 2012, 10:15 AM	#11
B. Doggy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Bryan Location: Oregon Posts: 7,399	Hmmm. Well, there is a reason they call it a LUMinor. Panerai gets my vote, hands down. That pic you took was probably the first few seconds after charging. __________________ Rolex / Panerai / Omega

14 August 2012, 02:04 PM	#13
RRGHOST1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: luke standing Location: england Watch: Rolex TT SubC Blue Posts: 4,022	Not a Pam fan but they have Rolex beaten on this one ! __________________ RRGHOST1

14 August 2012, 02:19 PM	#14
subtona 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: gus Location: East Coast Watch: APK & sometimes Y Posts: 26,937	Pam hands down important for me is the lume on the hands... the hour markers are really insignificant in telling the time. __________________

14 August 2012, 09:33 PM	#16
jfbclub "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: jeff Location: PA Watch: panerai, tt blue Posts: 23	1 vote for the PAM

15 August 2012, 01:40 AM	#17
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,855	PAM and Blancpain lume... Attached Images __________________

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