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Old 9 September 2012, 10:12 AM   #1
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16013 for Speedmaster 861?

I met a seller who offered to trade his Speedmaster 861 for my 16013.

His Speedy Pro is from the early 1980's, has the original bracelet with 19 links; original dial, hands, crystal, bezel, crown, and pushers. Recently serviced by non-Omega watchmaker, but no service bill/receipt to show the work done, (quite possibly a service was not done.) No boxes, or papers, Clean case back, without any enamel loss, or scratches.

My 16013 a 1983 steel/14k yellow gold, on 22 link jubilee, with usual, but not excessive stretch; champagne dial with indice hour markers. Original boxes, and books, serviced by Rolex Canada 2 1/2 years ago with service warranty paper; red seal, translation paper.

If I pay the seller cash, rather than trade my Datejust, he wants $2500 CDN which seems pretty high to me.

Fair trade?
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Old 9 September 2012, 10:32 AM   #2
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I would not trade, ive seen a handful of .861's going for less than 2k and they were all serviced. There is one on TZ right now for under 2.
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Old 10 September 2012, 02:45 AM   #3
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I would not trade, ive seen a handful of .861's going for less than 2k and they were all serviced. There is one on TZ right now for under 2.
Thank you for your help, Frogman4me. Unfortunately, a lot of the really great 861's are in America, and a lot of sellers won't sell to Canadians. Those that do won't fudge the forms, and charge full insurance, and pretty high shipping. One seller I spoke to here, wanted $100 just for shipping, and that didn't cover insurance.

I don't think I'm going to accept his offer, simply because my 16013 comes with a full set, and service history, while the Speedmaster has no packaging, and a suspect service history.
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Old 10 September 2012, 03:19 AM   #4
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I have a speedy date and I know the movements are different but speedmasters aren't cheap to service under any circumstance. Keep the Rolex and buy a speedmaster outright when the right Canadian deal comes along.


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Old 10 September 2012, 04:04 AM   #5
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Old 10 September 2012, 05:56 AM   #6
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I have a speedy date and I know the movements are different but speedmasters aren't cheap to service under any circumstance. Keep the Rolex and buy a speedmaster outright when the right Canadian deal comes along.
Good point, joe100. A fellow collector I know spent well over $700 getting his 1861 serviced at Swatch Canada.
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Old 10 September 2012, 05:58 AM   #7
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I wouldn't.
Thanks, TSW I've contacted the seller and passed on his offer. Here's his reply:

"Ok then. If you want to keep your junky Datejust go a head. This watch is for MEN ONLY anyways. Too much a manly watch for your delicate Rolex wrists LOL!!!!"

Stay classy, douchebag.
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Old 10 September 2012, 06:23 AM   #8
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Good decision you took

Now I would only buy a 321 Pre-Moon . . ;-)

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Good decision you took

Now I would only buy a 321 Pre-Moon . . ;-)

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