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esm · 1 February 2011, 10:33 PM

what are the future holds for the 210 and 183 or even 000?

the 380 def. reminds me of the above mentioned 3 pieces? maybe the 000 is "safe" because it is a Luminor... but what do you think about the 210 and 183? will they disappear from the Panerai catalogue eventually?

sorry - i havent really studied/read alot of the 2011 offerings, so this topic may have talked about already. if so, my apologies...

your thoughts?

(maybe im over analysing?)

mfer · 2 February 2011, 12:30 AM

I think there would be minimal change.

The 380 is solid back, painted dial. People love the display back and sammy dials, but this one will cater to those that don't.

psv · 2 February 2011, 12:33 AM

There is too much going on with that dial to satisfy my taste. Sub-seconds, texts, logo etc. Not in harmony IMO.

Noonan · 2 February 2011, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by psv

There is too much going on with that dial to satisfy my taste. Sub-seconds, texts, logo etc. Not in harmony IMO.

Agreed. Give me a 210 or 112 any day over the 380.

ocwatching · 2 February 2011, 01:56 AM

380 just looks a bit off to me as the Rads are typically non-cluttered..
but I guess it just takes time...
the 210/183 will be here to stay unless the ETA movements get swapped out...

bcacncnc · 2 February 2011, 03:54 AM

Too busy and unbalanced. The logo fits best (IMHO) on a 3-6-9-12 dial.

VetteBandit · 2 February 2011, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

I think there would be minimal change.

The 380 is solid back, painted dial. People love the display back and sammy dials, but this one will cater to those that don't.

I agree. I am a big Rad fan (as you can see from my PAM collection), but there is too much action with the 380 for me.

Stack · 2 February 2011, 05:56 AM

I have to agree with the consensus here and say that it is a bit too busy for my likes, at least for a Radiomir. If it wasn't a RAD i would be okay with it but one thing I have noticed about the Rad's is that they are a lot cleaner than this.

esm · 2 February 2011, 06:34 AM

Good stuff. That was my thoughts also. I was quite interested in the 380 when I first saw the pix, mainly due to the Panerai logo (a big fan of the logo). Then after a while I thought it was too busy on the dail.

I would love a 210 with a Panerai OP logo on it though

jay_man2 · 23 August 2011, 03:57 AM

I like my 380.

barstoolman · 23 August 2011, 04:14 AM

It seems to me that Rad fans don't like the 380 because for them, it's just plain too busy. For a Luminor fan (such as myself), this is actually the first Rad I would consider owning for the exact reason Rad fans don't care for it. Love all the stuff going on in the dial.............that's what makes us Luminor fans.

To each, his own.

texex91 · 23 August 2011, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jay_man2

I like my 380.

I like your 380 too

Love that logo.

red1108nyc · 23 August 2011, 08:33 AM

I respect everyone's opinion here and I for one, is a fan of the 380. I have owned a 190 and 287 in the past but I prefer 380 the most. Maybe its just me but I really enjoy the painted dial, the logo and the solid case back. This is the one Rad I want to own next to my 1950 and regular luminor models.

I think it looks pretty good on the vintage tan strap no?!

Have a great week everyone!

Best,

Fred

mboverst · 23 August 2011, 08:42 AM

Looks awesome on the vintage strap Fred! I love the 380 and think the logo is a nice addition.

jay_man2 · 23 August 2011, 08:43 AM

That vintage tan strap looks great. My 000 is on that strap, and looks good on it too.

red1108nyc · 23 August 2011, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jay_man2

That vintage tan strap looks great. My 000 is on that strap, and looks good on it too.

I like the vintage tan on PVD cases too!

Shade · 23 August 2011, 10:07 AM

I think the 380 is completely different than the rest of the watches. Its basically a 005 on a radiomir case. And with the existing 005, the 000, 112, 111, etc are all still there. So I wouldnt worry.

mfer · 23 August 2011, 10:42 AM

That strap is money Fred. Looks perfect on that 380.

dddrees · 23 August 2011, 11:22 AM

I'm a big fan of the logo also.

Great combo.

marcinthemiddle · 23 August 2011, 11:26 AM

I dislike the logo 000, 005- but that's just me.

I love that vintage tan strap- I have one for my 312...

red1108nyc · 23 August 2011, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfer

That strap is money Fred. Looks perfect on that 380.

Thank you Mik!

this is just the beauty of Panerai... everyone can find something they like or dislike and it's all just fine! Enjoy your pammies!

Fred

jhcam8 · 25 August 2011, 04:25 AM

Great looking strap, Fred. The watch is nice - as long as you're happy with it you'll enjoy it. If that changes you can sell it and move on - no worries!

A320 · 28 August 2011, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red1108nyc

I respect everyone's opinion here and I for one, is a fan of the 380. I have owned a 190 and 287 in the past but I prefer 380 the most. Maybe its just me but I really enjoy the painted dial, the logo and the solid case back. This is the one Rad I want to own next to my 1950 and regular luminor models.

I think it looks pretty good on the vintage tan strap no?!

Have a great week everyone!

Best,

Fred

Hello, I also have the 380... just wanna ask you where did you get your straps? Look real nice with the 380... Gotta get myself those straps... Thank you sir...

red1108nyc · 28 August 2011, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A320

Hello, I also have the 380... just wanna ask you where did you get your straps? Look real nice with the 380... Gotta get myself those straps... Thank you sir...

Thank you!

Its the OEM vintage gold calf and the boutique will take care of you. It is also the same strap on the 360.

Best,

Fred

masterkiller · 5 November 2012, 11:10 PM

I love the PAM380, it might soon be my first Rad, I originally though about getting a PAM210 but feel it is too similar to my PAM112...

I think it would be a nice addition to my PAM112, the are opposites almost even though they are similar...

Differences to the PAM112

Painted Dial
Small Second
Logo
No clearcaseback

It is almost a done deal :-)...

Glenn422 · 6 November 2012, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red1108nyc

I like the vintage tan on PVD cases too!

I like a vintage looking strap as well for my ceramic 335! It's currently on a kaktus/fransson drifter. Looks very nice with a PVD buckle!

I think the PAM 000 will hold out. People who are looking for entry level PAMs usually are more attracted to the crown guard more (luminors) than radiomirs..

iLLGT2 · 6 November 2012, 05:15 AM

LOVE the 380 as well, the first RAD I owned... I sold it however because i'm just not a big Radiomir fan... It felt delicate to wear a lot, weird and just mental though

TSW · 6 November 2012, 06:07 AM

As others already said, Too busy dial for me.

1 February 2011, 10:33 PM	#1
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	now that the 380 is "out"... what are the future holds for the 210 and 183 or even 000? the 380 def. reminds me of the above mentioned 3 pieces? maybe the 000 is "safe" because it is a Luminor... but what do you think about the 210 and 183? will they disappear from the Panerai catalogue eventually? sorry - i havent really studied/read alot of the 2011 offerings, so this topic may have talked about already. if so, my apologies... your thoughts? (maybe im over analysing?)

2 February 2011, 12:30 AM	#2
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	I think there would be minimal change. The 380 is solid back, painted dial. People love the display back and sammy dials, but this one will cater to those that don't. __________________ member#3242

2 February 2011, 01:56 AM	#5
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	380 just looks a bit off to me as the Rads are typically non-cluttered.. but I guess it just takes time... the 210/183 will be here to stay unless the ETA movements get swapped out... __________________ too much into watches...

2 February 2011, 03:54 AM	#6
bcacncnc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Bryan Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,577	Too busy and unbalanced. The logo fits best (IMHO) on a 3-6-9-12 dial. __________________ Omega Panerai Chopard Grand Seiko

2 February 2011, 05:56 AM	#8
Stack "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Orange County, CA Watch: PAM312\|AP 15400ST Posts: 302	I have to agree with the consensus here and say that it is a bit too busy for my likes, at least for a Radiomir. If it wasn't a RAD i would be okay with it but one thing I have noticed about the Rad's is that they are a lot cleaner than this. __________________ PAM 312 Panerai Central \| Panerai Central Instagram

2 February 2011, 12:33 AM	#3
psv 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA & France Posts: 11,077	There is too much going on with that dial to satisfy my taste. Sub-seconds, texts, logo etc. Not in harmony IMO.

2 February 2011, 06:34 AM	#9
esm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: Location,Location Watch: this, bro... Posts: 15,340	Good stuff. That was my thoughts also. I was quite interested in the 380 when I first saw the pix, mainly due to the Panerai logo (a big fan of the logo). Then after a while I thought it was too busy on the dail. I would love a 210 with a Panerai OP logo on it though

23 August 2011, 03:57 AM	#10
jay_man2 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Jay Location: Northern Virginia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,490	I like my 380.

23 August 2011, 04:14 AM	#11
barstoolman Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 801	It seems to me that Rad fans don't like the 380 because for them, it's just plain too busy. For a Luminor fan (such as myself), this is actually the first Rad I would consider owning for the exact reason Rad fans don't care for it. Love all the stuff going on in the dial.............that's what makes us Luminor fans. To each, his own.

23 August 2011, 08:33 AM	#13
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,514	I respect everyone's opinion here and I for one, is a fan of the 380. I have owned a 190 and 287 in the past but I prefer 380 the most. Maybe its just me but I really enjoy the painted dial, the logo and the solid case back. This is the one Rad I want to own next to my 1950 and regular luminor models. I think it looks pretty good on the vintage tan strap no?! Have a great week everyone! Best, Fred

23 August 2011, 08:42 AM	#14
mboverst "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Dallas Posts: 1,683	Looks awesome on the vintage strap Fred! I love the 380 and think the logo is a nice addition.

23 August 2011, 08:43 AM	#15
jay_man2 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Jay Location: Northern Virginia Watch: Rolex Posts: 2,490	That vintage tan strap looks great. My 000 is on that strap, and looks good on it too.

23 August 2011, 10:07 AM	#17
Shade "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Norman Location: Jakarta Watch: All of 'em.. Posts: 2,926	I think the 380 is completely different than the rest of the watches. Its basically a 005 on a radiomir case. And with the existing 005, the 000, 112, 111, etc are all still there. So I wouldnt worry. __________________ My collections.. Plus PAM 233, 232, 249 & PAM 417.

23 August 2011, 10:42 AM	#18
mfer "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: Mik Location: USA Posts: 13,724	That strap is money Fred. Looks perfect on that 380. __________________ member#3242

23 August 2011, 11:22 AM	#19
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,258	I'm a big fan of the logo also. Great combo. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

23 August 2011, 11:26 AM	#20
marcinthemiddle Vacated Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Marc Location: Connecticut Watch: PAM 111 'N' Posts: 2,558	I dislike the logo 000, 005- but that's just me. I love that vintage tan strap- I have one for my 312... __________________ NAWCC Member Card Carrying Member of the Global Assoc. of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons Executive Dorklehead

25 August 2011, 04:25 AM	#22
jhcam8 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Jim Location: SE MI, USA Watch: Sub C Posts: 2,068	Great looking strap, Fred. The watch is nice - as long as you're happy with it you'll enjoy it. If that changes you can sell it and move on - no worries!

5 November 2012, 11:10 PM	#25
masterkiller "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sweden Watch: Rolex, AP & PAM... Posts: 1,403	I love the PAM380, it might soon be my first Rad, I originally though about getting a PAM210 but feel it is too similar to my PAM112... I think it would be a nice addition to my PAM112, the are opposites almost even though they are similar... Differences to the PAM112 Painted Dial Small Second Logo No clearcaseback It is almost a done deal :-)... __________________ Rolex - SubC... AP - Diver... Panerai - PAM380 Omega - Speedy PRO

6 November 2012, 05:15 AM	#27
iLLGT2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Martin Location: NY And FLA Watch: AP ROO Blue Scuba Posts: 2,695	LOVE the 380 as well, the first RAD I owned... I sold it however because i'm just not a big Radiomir fan... It felt delicate to wear a lot, weird and just mental though

6 November 2012, 06:07 AM	#28
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	As others already said, Too busy dial for me. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

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