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Old 5 December 2007, 12:19 AM   #1
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mist on inside of glass?

hi all,

just got my first rolex (ss datejust, jubille, black dial)
and after wearing it in shower its got little blobs of water on inside and steams up when i wear it, then goes when i take it off.
is this normal?
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Old 5 December 2007, 12:23 AM   #2
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Welcome date,

No, that is not normal, or even to be expected. No Rolex Oyster watch should ever mist up or allow water in during a shower.....

Tell us a bit more about your watch... How old is it, where did you purchase it ?

Did you ensure the crown was screwed down ?

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Old 5 December 2007, 12:23 AM   #3
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Welcome to TRF. That's not normal i think you should go to an RSC and check it out.
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Old 5 December 2007, 12:48 AM   #4
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it was a present from a friend on sunday,
ive been told that it was produced after 2002 because it has a very small etched crown at bottom of glass by the 6.
what else do you need to know?
i dont want to ask my friend as he will go mad.
ive started to worry that ive ruined a very nice present...


any help would be great..

thanks

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Old 5 December 2007, 12:51 AM   #5
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Welcome to TRF!

I would have your watch serviced by RSC as soon as possible.

Water on the OUTER SIDE of a Rolex case with seals and crystal intact, crown screwed in: No problem!

Water on the INNER SIDE of the case at the movement : BIG problem!

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Old 5 December 2007, 01:01 AM   #6
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Good for you Jim

I wish I had friends that would give me a $6 thousand dollar watch for a present...

A photo would help us a lot.

You say it is a 2002 model, so it is possible that the rubber "O" rings in the stem tube have become cracked or hard and are letting water past them.. There is also a gasket for the screw on back that might leak if not fitted properly, as well as a gasket around the base of the crystal.

I would take it to any good watchmaker and have him/her check the gaskets integrity.

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Old 5 December 2007, 01:03 AM   #7
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2002 + Rolex letting in water ?. You either have a significant fault with the Rolex ....or, not to be too delicate, you have a low grade copy.

Do you have any paperwork etc ?, As your friend is good enough to give you a Rolex, then you should be able to ask for provenenance without embarrassment.
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Old 5 December 2007, 01:12 AM   #8
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Welcome!

Besides the gaskets and crown, it could be that the sudden change in the temperatures causes this steam. It has been known to happen, even to best waterproof watches. But take it to a Rolex Service Center as soon as possible. To check it out!
Hope it workes out :)
Best of luck
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Old 5 December 2007, 01:13 AM   #9
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Besides the gaskets and crown, it could be that the sudden change in the temperatures causes this steam. It has been known to happen, even to best waterproof watches. But take it to a Rolex Service Center as soon as possible. To check it out!
Hope it workes out :)
Best of luck
Is this possible to happen at a rolex watch?
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Old 5 December 2007, 01:16 AM   #10
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Besides the gaskets and crown, it could be that the sudden change in the temperatures causes this steam. It has been known to happen, even to best waterproof watches. But take it to a Rolex Service Center as soon as possible. To check it out!
Hope it workes out :)
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If my watch ever steams it's straight down to the RSC. Steam = moisture=corrosion
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Old 5 December 2007, 01:34 AM   #11
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2002 + Rolex letting in water ?. You either have a significant fault with the Rolex ....or, not to be too delicate, you have a low grade copy.

Do you have any paperwork etc ?, As your friend is good enough to give you a Rolex, then you should be able to ask for provenenance without embarrassment.
as with the paper work mid week he will be giving this to me,
as for telling him it is a low grade copy i will insult him by even sugesting this.
(and will be looking for a new job i must add and who know it might be one of his ferraris next year!)
it might of been me not screwing the crown down it may have been the wife or the kids before i put it on it could be many things, but one things is for sure i better get it to a shop asap,

thanks

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Old 5 December 2007, 03:20 AM   #12
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It happened to me. It turns out the barrel (the threaded portion the crown screws down on) was loose in the case. I don't know how it happed but they fixed it.
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Old 5 December 2007, 04:43 AM   #13
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Mike is right with this one, if the crown is ever come under some light knocks, maybe from normal wear or letting it rest frequently on its crown could loosen the barrel and let a minuscule amount of water in.
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Old 5 December 2007, 05:04 AM   #14
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Old 5 December 2007, 06:05 AM   #15
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Man, I hope that it was due to the crown not being screwed down, and I hope that the service dep't can dry it out, lube it up, and pressure test it asap. Keep us posted.
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Old 5 December 2007, 06:07 AM   #16
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hi all,

just got my first rolex (ss datejust, jubille, black dial)
and after wearing it in shower its got little blobs of water on inside and steams up when i wear it, then goes when i take it off.
is this normal?
Please post a clear picture of the dial, back of the watch and band.

From there we can give you better answers.
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Old 5 December 2007, 07:02 AM   #17
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Is this possible to happen at a rolex watch?

It can happen to even the best waterproof watch, because of the air humidity inside the watch. Expands and decreases under high and low temperatures. But i`m not sure what these temperatures are.

For instant, if you have moisture inside your watch, and you put it on a hot fan or in the sun. You can see the steam inside under the saphire crystal glace.
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It can happen to even the best waterproof watch, because of the air humidity inside the watch. Expands and decreases under high and low temperatures. But i`m not sure what these temperatures are.

For instant, if you have moisture inside your watch, and you put it on a hot fan or in the sun. You can see the steam inside under the saphire crystal glace.
Thanks for the info Daniel-San.
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Old 5 December 2007, 07:15 AM   #19
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It can happen to even the best waterproof watch, because of the air humidity inside the watch. Expands and decreases under high and low temperatures. But i`m not sure what these temperatures are.

For instant, if you have moisture inside your watch, and you put it on a hot fan or in the sun. You can see the steam inside under the saphire crystal glace.
I have never seen this before in a watch operating properly. Not saying that you're wrong, but in all the years of reading about watches I have never seen this assertion anywhere. I can recall being told that there isn't enough air volume that even the most humid air couldn't generate a viewable form of water vapor.

Can you share your references with us? Trying to learn as much as I can.
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Old 5 December 2007, 07:28 AM   #20
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The only reason to wear a watch in the shower is to collect soap scum.
Take it off and save it some misery and increase the lifespan of the seals.
If you can see condensation inside the crysal then there is imminent damage.
Get it to a Rolex mechanic.
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Old 5 December 2007, 07:32 AM   #21
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The moisture could have been inside the case before you ever owned it. The heat in the shower might just have caused it to fog...

Who knows how it had been treated in the past.
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Old 5 December 2007, 08:16 AM   #22
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Not too long ago, Tom (Kansaivet) posted that after washing his his hands, he noticed the crown on his Daytona wasn't screwed all the way in. I don't think it caused any problems.

Then I did pretty much the same thing with my Explorer II a week or so later. I took a shower and afterwards noticed my crown wasn't screwed all the way in. I immediately turned the watch crown side down and put it under a hair dryer for a few minutes. Then I left the crown in the unthreaded position for a few hours. That was about a month ago, and I've experienced no problems.

Thank God for O-rings!

I'm not sure this actually adds anything to this thread. I just wanted to put it out there.
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Old 5 December 2007, 12:07 PM   #23
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You should be able to shower with your Rolex on with no problems. I have worn mine in the shower for almost 20 years. Never a problem and it always comes out very clean as I wash it, no soap scum on mine...
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Old 5 December 2007, 12:37 PM   #24
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The only reason to wear a watch in the shower is to collect soap scum.
Take it off and save it some misery and increase the lifespan of the seals.
If you can see condensation inside the crysal then there is imminent damage.
Get it to a Rolex mechanic.
On that premise, the only reason to wear your watch diving then is to generate corrosion and collect barnacles...

How and what each person does with his/her watch is as varied as each individual. I'm one of those who wears his watch pretty much 24/7 and for all activities. The few exceptions include working on the car, and, uh, working on the car. For some, like me, it's a tool not a jewel.

Back on topic, if you have condensation in the case... get it to a watchmaker (or RSC) ASAP. Not good...
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Rolex watches are still waterproof (to a certain extent) even with the crown unscrewed. The problem isn't that your crown wasn't screwed in all the way. Either your friend passed a fake on to you, or the watch is in serious need of a service, especially now that moisture is in the case.
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I have never seen this before in a watch operating properly. Not saying that you're wrong, but in all the years of reading about watches I have never seen this assertion anywhere. I can recall being told that there isn't enough air volume that even the most humid air couldn't generate a viewable form of water vapor.

Can you share your references with us? Trying to learn as much as I can.

I agree, I haven`t found anything about that subject either. But I have experienced it with new watches, where the watch has been exposed of extreme temperature differences. There are many forms of waterproof tests, that can be performed. One of those is that you put the watch on top of a hot fan, and then put a drop of cold water on the glace. To see if the air humid inside the watch shows up.

There are also watches that has water vapor inside of it, but it doesen`t appear under the glace. But this depends on where the water has come in.

I can try asking my colleagues, to see if they have a better explanation on this subject.
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take it in for service
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I agree, I haven`t found anything about that subject either. But I have experienced it with new watches, where the watch has been exposed of extreme temperature differences. There are many forms of waterproof tests, that can be performed. One of those is that you put the watch on top of a hot fan, and then put a drop of cold water on the glace. To see if the air humid inside the watch shows up.

There are also watches that has water vapor inside of it, but it doesen`t appear under the glace. But this depends on where the water has come in.

I can try asking my colleagues, to see if they have a better explanation on this subject.
Nice info thanks for sharing it with us
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hi all,

just got my first rolex (ss datejust, jubille, black dial)
and after wearing it in shower its got little blobs of water on inside and steams up when i wear it, then goes when i take it off.
is this normal?
My guess would be no - what would your guess be?
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