SubC and GMTIIC in same collection OVERKILL??

[watchwatcher]

1. No, but there are so many cool options with either TT, full gold, or LVc, that if you get restless, there you go. (Answers #2 as well)
3. No

Relax and enjoy what you've got. If you don't, switch it for something else!

[thomaspp]

Thanks for all the great feedback everyone!

[QUOTE=paverman;3884165]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Hi all. I would very much appreciate your thoughts on the following:

1. Do you think having both a SubC and GMTIIC in the same collection of several watches (rolex/non-rolex) "repetitive" at all in light of similarities in case/bezel/face, etc.?

2. Does your answer change if one of the two is TT or Gold (black face gold watches only)?

3. Would you consider trading a Daytona (v series) for a TT GMTIIC?

I've been thinking about rounding out my collection and have too many thoughts in my mind!


Nope, not too repetitive IMO, especially if you go with a TT or gold version.

Thanks. I'm tending to agree.

Originally Posted by Grissom

If you like them both, then by all means, they both belong in your collection! I buy and collect what I enjoy owning and wearing.......and I recommend you consider doing the same. Hope this helps, for at the end of the day, they are for your enjoyment, right!

I do as you say, but always nice to hear what other fellow watch lovers think. Thanks!

Originally Posted by kilyung

I'm very happy with my WG SubC & YG GMTIIc and find them not at all repetitive. The same is true of steel versions for me.

I've seen many pictures of those two lovley pieces you have and very much agree!

Originally Posted by Monte Cristo

That's a NO to all three questions...

Thanks for the feedback!

Originally Posted by DCgator

If you must have both models, yes definitely mix it up - SS, TT, YG, WG, etc..... My 2c.

Thanks! I'm feeling that I must indeed have both! I have a sub and would be considering the GMTII!

Originally Posted by Thatguy

Nope!

Originally Posted by HRV

No, in fact I think having a couple of versions of the same watch is ok, say 1 in SS then 1 in TT , 1 in YG and maybe one in RG, it's your collection and I hope you enjoy it

Thanks! That's an interesting perspective on collecting.

Originally Posted by xjeeunitx

My wife thinks they are the same watch. I think not.

haha.. same here. I showed my wife some pictures of the GMT and she said "you already have that one"! Here's my "GMT".

Originally Posted by Ravager135

If you are looking for a diverse watch collection there might be other GMT options in the Rolex line that could give you greater variation. But if you like both the SS Sub and GMT then by all means get them both. They wear differently and have different heritages. In for one would get one of the two models in two tone but that is because variation in a collection is important to me. Other people would say a collection is defined by having many of the same model. The short answer is with Rolex, each model particularly in the sports line has a different feel and although there are arching similarities you will regret not getting one if you pick something else you are less enthused about.

Ironically I passed up a GMT to get a Navitimer which I now regret a little but when I bought my next Rolex I went with an Explorer II because it was so different from my Sub. Logic never wins once you get the bug.

Thank you! very thoughtful my friend. The "different heritages" and functions is certainly a consideration.

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

No problem having both a Sub and GMT. I'd be a hypocrite if I said otherwise because I have both.

If you want more of a different look then TT for one is a good way to go. Personally I'd go TT in the GMT rather than the Sub.

I would prefer a Sub and GMT over a Sub and Daytona, but I love the GMT and am not big on Daytonas or chronographs in general. But that's just me and ymmv.

Thanks! I'm tending to agree. I find myself having to force myself to wear my daytona more (just not as in love with it any more, not sure why though). I think the TT GMT is a great looking watch!

Originally Posted by Ravager135

Agree, the GMT wears slightly dressier in it's new ceramic build and PCL bracelet. If you go two tone that's the way to go.

Thanks again!

Originally Posted by DolphinV8

Yes, those two watches are similar in many ways but they are also different enough for me to own both of them.

Yes, thanks. As I said above to someone who doesn't know much about rolex they may even appear as the same watch.

Originally Posted by Time Exposure

Speaking for myself (of course):
1) A bit repetitive perhaps in terms of general appearance, but I'm more into appreciating each model for the differences. I wouldn't hesitate to have each in my collection because they are designed for two different purposes.
2) Every time I tell myself I don't like TT Rolexes, I begin to appreciate them more. However, despite the similarities, I'd rather have each in SS.
3) I really (really) love chronos, so I would have a Daytona first then the GMT then the Sub.
All opinions based on today's feelings. Subject to change...!

Thanks! I hear you. As to 3, having a chrono just hasn't excited me that much - not sure why. I never use the chrono feature although I really enjoy looking down at the busy dial.

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

And that is exactly my reasoning as well. The nature and function of the GMT lends itself a bit more to being dressed up (think pilot or world traveler) versus the Sub (think salvage diver or knocking it on coral reef). And since the GMT has PCL's anyway it is more so the better candidate for going TT because if you go TT with the Sub you forfeit the brushed center links (which I prefer on SS models) - then have two watches with PCLs. And now they are a little more the same rather than a little more different. I like having the brushed CLs for knocking around and the SS Sub suits that purpose.

Thanks friend. Agree. If I were to go gold or TT on one of those two it would have to be the GMT!

Originally Posted by Z-Sub

Not at all. Very different look n serve different function. The lugs are visibly thinner in GMT-c and bezel inserts are very different. Unless u brush the GMT-C's bracelet, that is another significant distinction.

So enjoy both if u love them both.

Thanks! Insightful!

Originally Posted by DK3

If it brings you joy that is all that matters. They are two different watches and you can and should enjoy both of them.

Certainly! Thanks.

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Well, IMO, the TT GMTIIc is the best TT in the lineup. Would go great with a Submariner.

Yes. Thanks. That is exactly the thought.

Originally Posted by Woody

I am lucky to have both in my small collection and don't have any issue with them looking similar etc - "land, sea and air", what more could you want

Thanks! Would love to see a picture of your line-up!

Originally Posted by Bangel

x2

The sub c and the GMT IIc are my 2 favourite watches in the current Rolex line up and I would have no reservations in owning both of them. The fact they are similar just reflects the style of watch I like.

Being a flipper is also not really part of my DNA. If I owned a Daytona I'd have bought it after long and careful consideration and probably wouldn't want to part with it. I'd keep saving to add the GMT IIc. This idiosyncratic attitude, of course, may not apply to you at all!

Thanks! Agree that the Sub and GMT are of the coolest in the rolex line-up. Hear you on the daytona. Thanks.

Originally Posted by TSW

No on all three

Definitive! Thanks.

Originally Posted by esm

Not an overkill, they are different enough for me.

Thanks! Great picture! Love the different lumes.

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

No, No and No.

Thank you! No wiggle room, huh?

Originally Posted by gmtm2

a cool collection

Agreed.

Originally Posted by jvo300

1. Yes. As a former owner of both, I'd feel better about having the two if one was modern and one vintage or #2 below.

2. No. Different metals would be a good reason to own both in my book.

3. No. That's my own personal preference between the watches. I'm also not a fan of two tone.

Good luck with your decision!

Thanks for this. You're point in 1 is well taken.

Originally Posted by travisb

Definately NOT overkill.
Many around here have both in their collection, and yes I would trade a SS Daytona towards a TT GMT-C.

Thanks! The one odd man out. Appreciate the feedback.

Originally Posted by landroverking

First off not a Subc fan.
One in TT or 18kt gold and one in SS would be very cool.
Two in SS not for me.

Agree with this! Thanks.

Originally Posted by joe100

Having both in SS doesn't make much sense to me. They're very similar. Owning one in TT would change my answer a bit but I don't think I'd own a TT unless it was the GMT 2c. A TT Sub defeats the purpose.

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Thanks. The TT/Gold would be the GMT. Best.

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by justdate

Having both in SS would not be worth it to me, they are both pretty similar so you would pick a favourite and never use the other! One YG and one SS or TT would make a lot more sense however, as there is a number of circumstances where the YG would not be appropriate and you could use the SS, for example.

YES! Agreed. Would be considering going gold or TT on the GMTIIC. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Trouble15

No for the first two & yes for the third for me.

Thank you. Making the flip an easier choice!

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

1. No, but there are so many cool options with either TT, full gold, or LVc, that if you get restless, there you go. (Answers #2 as well)
3. No

Relax and enjoy what you've got. If you don't, switch it for something else!

Thank you, sir.

[Bruno C]

1. no
2. no
3. no

[Enoch]

Originally Posted by thomaspp

Hi all. I would very much appreciate your thoughts on the following:

1. Do you think having both a SubC and GMTIIC in the same collection of several watches (rolex/non-rolex) "repetitive" at all in light of similarities in case/bezel/face, etc.?

Yes... It certainly bothered me.... Had a Sub C first, then added the GMT...
And side by side, I thought they were to similar...
As I already had another LV sub it was a very simple decision to get rid of the SubC for something that looked different....

So the Sub C was exchanged for this...... And I'm. Very happy with my choice..

[gwozhog]

Hey he who pays calls the tune. Your dime so do as yo please. I think the the watches are completely different.

[AK797]

I agree with most others, both in SS is too similar so Im getting the TT GMTc as my second Rolex as its a pilot watch not a diver and can better take some gold.

[thomaspp]

Thank you all. It's great having a sounding board for all these crazy ideas that float in most of our minds!

To put the question more directly, how would you feel about trading the SS Daytona in the collection below for a TT GMTii or gold GMTii ?Thanks!

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by Bruno C

1. no
2. no
3. no

Thanks!

Originally Posted by Enoch

Yes... It certainly bothered me.... Had a Sub C first, then added the GMT...
And side by side, I thought they were to similar...
As I already had another LV sub it was a very simple decision to get rid of the SubC for something that looked different....

So the Sub C was exchanged for this...... And I'm. Very happy with my choice..

Thank you! Great pics!

[thomaspp]

Originally Posted by gwozhog

Hey he who pays calls the tune. Your dime so do as yo please. I think the the watches are completely different.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by AK797

I agree with most others, both in SS is too similar so Im getting the TT GMTc as my second Rolex as its a pilot watch not a diver and can better take some gold.

Thank you.

[samuel019]

Not at all. There are sufficient differences between the two IMO. From a aesthetic stand point you have the Pcls, bezel, and for the most part the font etc. Mechanically you have a diving watch and multi time zone function. If people were to say yes then some could say the same thing for the Exp II and SubC comparison. When they are for the most part two different watches just like the GmtII and the SubC.

[Watchdog]

Originally Posted by Cru Jones

Well, IMO, the TT GMTIIc is the best TT in the lineup. Would go great with a Submariner.

Agree with this!

[iLLGT2]

Had both in SS and my DSSD at the same time.. Eventually got rid of Sub C , kept GMT and Deepsea !

[Spartacus]

Originally Posted by esm

Not an overkill, they are different enough for me.

Do newer GMT-IIc's have blue lume??

[submariner66]

For me I look at the function of these two watches. I would buy a GMT for its aviation history and 24 hr timezone function. That would be the appeal of it for me.

On the other hand; yes they are both ss watches with black face and black bezels. If you are looking for a diverse collection of watches and are not terribly interested in an expansive Rolex collection of models, history, then I would not bother getting both of these watches.

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by T. Ferguson

And that is exactly my reasoning as well. The nature and function of the GMT lends itself a bit more to being dressed up (think pilot or world traveler) versus the Sub (think salvage diver or knocking it on coral reef). And since the GMT has PCL's anyway it is more so the better candidate for going TT because if you go TT with the Sub you forfeit the brushed center links (which I prefer on SS models) - then have two watches with PCLs. And now they are a little more the same rather than a little more different. I like having the brushed CLs for knocking around and the SS Sub suits that purpose.

Completely on the same page. I say it in all my posts but watches have a heritage that factors into their design. While a pilots watch is a tool watch, it's definitely the more "white collar" of professions in the military and has certainly affected the design and heritage of watches intended for the vocation. As an aviator I see my fair share of quartz Breitlings and stainless steel models but I certainly see a lot more gold and two tone on aviators than I do in my surface and submariner shipmates.

[Ravager135]

Originally Posted by Enoch

Yes... It certainly bothered me.... Had a Sub C first, then added the GMT...
And side by side, I thought they were to similar...
As I already had another LV sub it was a very simple decision to get rid of the SubC for something that looked different....

So the Sub C was exchanged for this...... And I'm. Very happy with my choice..

This is the ultimate sport collection right there. Land, sea, and air covered.