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pghjoe · 3 March 2013, 02:26 PM

Being rather new to forum, I need some advice. My wife and I have stick mid-80's datejust watches. I was going to buy an autowinder as a gift for her. I was told that I could cause premature damage to the watches. I don't understand and need some direction.

adam78 · 3 March 2013, 02:35 PM

No need really to use one for a quick-set date watch. With relatively modern watches, they're most useful for perpetual calendars and the like. I wouldn't use one on a pre-60s watch (with slow-set date) as it does excessively wear the movement parts (it's effectively running continuously).

Stoner319 · 3 March 2013, 02:48 PM

If you search a little bit there are tons of threads and discussions on the pros and cons. Personally they don't bother me but I agree I probably wouldn't use them for vintage watches.

onkyo · 3 March 2013, 02:53 PM

I wouldn't put vintage pieces on one.

motoikkyu · 3 March 2013, 03:47 PM

Which would you rather buy: a car that had been sitting in a garage since new, driven on weekends, or a car that had been driven continuously by drivers working in shifts, so that the motor never once was allowed to stop spinning? Do any professionals or factories use watch winders, other than on an intermittent basis for testing? Erm....listen, I know the people who make winders just need to feed their families and all but....

T. Ferguson · 3 March 2013, 04:12 PM

I see no useful purpose to running my watches if I'm not wearing them. About the only benefit to a winder would be if I had numerous watches that I rotate daily so that I would be having to set date and time every single day, especially if I had a couple of perpetuals in the rotation. I switch watches less frequently so having to set them now and then is no big deal. Saves wear and tear and increases the service interval a little. That can add up if you're talking about the cost of RSC service on a half dozen watches every five years because they've been sitting on a winder running constantly. But this is just my opinion.

crowncollection · 3 March 2013, 06:35 PM

No need for one, they just cause unecessary wear

HL65 · 3 March 2013, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkyo

I wouldn't put vintage pieces on one.

Agree!!

vintagewaferthin · 4 March 2013, 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkyo

I wouldn't put vintage pieces on one.

Totally agree!

pghjoe · 4 March 2013, 02:02 AM

Thanks for your input. I'll pass on the winder.

padi56 · 4 March 2013, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onkyo

I wouldn't put vintage pieces on one.

I would not put any Rolex watch on one.

MichaelB_Can · 4 March 2013, 02:47 AM

I have a winder for sale ....... Just kidding .

Mike B , Canada ⌚

Jason71 · 4 March 2013, 03:17 AM

Winders = BAD

shofzr · 4 March 2013, 03:36 AM

If the watch is not running then it's not wearing out.
You have a better chance of extending service intervals if you let it stop when not being worn.

swish77 · 4 March 2013, 03:43 AM

For non-quickset vintage Rolexes with a date function, I find winders useful. That way I don't need to stand there for five minutes spinning the hands to get the correct date. I just take it off the winder and it's ready to go. Still, I only do that with one or two watches that are in my rotation. The others sit in my case, resting peacefully, until they're put back in the rotation.

Tools · 4 March 2013, 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pghjoe

Being rather new to forum, I need some advice. My wife and I have stick mid-80's datejust watches. I was going to buy an autowinder as a gift for her. I was told that I could cause premature damage to the watches. I don't understand and need some direction.

A winder will NOT cause premature damage to any watch..

What it does though, is keep the watch running all the time. A watch that is running all the time is wearing itself out. A watch that is not running is incurring zero wear..

So, "premature damage" is a misnomer for normal wear.. If you are ok with your non-used watch running and wearing all the time, a winder is for you.. If you do not mind winding and setting a watch when you put it on, a winder is a waste of space, is cumbersome, and costs.

Personally, I don't have one and see no practical use for one..

theloxmyth · 4 March 2013, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pghjoe

Being rather new to forum, I need some advice. My wife and I have stick mid-80's datejust watches. I was going to buy an autowinder as a gift for her. I was told that I could cause premature damage to the watches. I don't understand and need some direction.

Welcome, Joe!

I'm near Monroeville.

IF you ever want to do lunch, PM me and I'll give you my number.

Lookout for the 3rd Annual Pittsburgh GTG coming in June, also!

Vincent65 · 4 March 2013, 06:27 AM

No winder here either - agree with the above: pointless for modern quick-set movements, and I wouldn't put unnecessary wear on my watches anyway, especially my vintage (most of them). It's like leaving the engine running on your car, in neutral, in the garage, all the time... Nah.

high5 · 4 March 2013, 06:43 AM

no winder for rolex.

3 March 2013, 02:26 PM	#1
pghjoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 14	Winders-good or bad? Being rather new to forum, I need some advice. My wife and I have stick mid-80's datejust watches. I was going to buy an autowinder as a gift for her. I was told that I could cause premature damage to the watches. I don't understand and need some direction.

3 March 2013, 02:35 PM	#2
adam78 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,830	No need really to use one for a quick-set date watch. With relatively modern watches, they're most useful for perpetual calendars and the like. I wouldn't use one on a pre-60s watch (with slow-set date) as it does excessively wear the movement parts (it's effectively running continuously). __________________ Cheers, Adam

3 March 2013, 04:12 PM	#6
T. Ferguson "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Left Coast Posts: 7,025	I see no useful purpose to running my watches if I'm not wearing them. About the only benefit to a winder would be if I had numerous watches that I rotate daily so that I would be having to set date and time every single day, especially if I had a couple of perpetuals in the rotation. I switch watches less frequently so having to set them now and then is no big deal. Saves wear and tear and increases the service interval a little. That can add up if you're talking about the cost of RSC service on a half dozen watches every five years because they've been sitting on a winder running constantly. But this is just my opinion. __________________ *Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.*

3 March 2013, 06:35 PM	#7
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,247	No need for one, they just cause unecessary wear __________________ watches many

4 March 2013, 03:17 AM	#13
Jason71 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Rolex/Tudor Divers Posts: 7,973	Winders = BAD __________________ Best Regards, Jason Just Say "NO" to Polishing Card-Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch Curmudgeons LIfe is too short to wear inexpensive watches PLEXI IS SEXY

3 March 2013, 02:48 PM	#3
Stoner319 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: USA Watch: ing You Sleep Posts: 379	If you search a little bit there are tons of threads and discussions on the pros and cons. Personally they don't bother me but I agree I probably wouldn't use them for vintage watches.

3 March 2013, 02:53 PM	#4
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	I wouldn't put vintage pieces on one.

3 March 2013, 03:47 PM	#5
motoikkyu 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: PRJ Posts: 1,732	Which would you rather buy: a car that had been sitting in a garage since new, driven on weekends, or a car that had been driven continuously by drivers working in shifts, so that the motor never once was allowed to stop spinning? Do any professionals or factories use watch winders, other than on an intermittent basis for testing? Erm....listen, I know the people who make winders just need to feed their families and all but....

4 March 2013, 02:02 AM	#10
pghjoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 14	Thanks for your input. I'll pass on the winder.

4 March 2013, 02:47 AM	#12
MichaelB_Can Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Mike Location: Canada Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 332	I have a winder for sale ....... Just kidding . Mike B , Canada ⌚

4 March 2013, 03:36 AM	#14
shofzr "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Adrian Location: Dallas Watch: 218235 BronzeWaves Posts: 760	If the watch is not running then it's not wearing out. You have a better chance of extending service intervals if you let it stop when not being worn. __________________ Sea-Dweller 16600 Day-Date II 218235 Cellinum 5240/6 Speedmaster 125

4 March 2013, 03:43 AM	#15
swish77 2025 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 7,089	For non-quickset vintage Rolexes with a date function, I find winders useful. That way I don't need to stand there for five minutes spinning the hands to get the correct date. I just take it off the winder and it's ready to go. Still, I only do that with one or two watches that are in my rotation. The others sit in my case, resting peacefully, until they're put back in the rotation.

4 March 2013, 06:27 AM	#18
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,298	No winder here either - agree with the above: pointless for modern quick-set movements, and I wouldn't put unnecessary wear on my watches anyway, especially my vintage (most of them). It's like leaving the engine running on your car, in neutral, in the garage, all the time... Nah.

4 March 2013, 06:43 AM	#19
high5 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: hong kong Posts: 300	no winder for rolex.

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