DSSD servicing

[redsubby]

My Deepsea is coming up to 5 full years in a few months. When I decide to take it in to local RSC for a full service, will they need to send the watch back to Geneva? The reason I'm asking is because I am not sure if local RSC's have the machines to test its 3900m depth?
From what I read in the magazines, these machines/tanks are in Geneva so how do local RSC's go about testing the deepsea after the service is complete?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by redsubby

My Deepsea is coming up to 5 full years in a few months. When I decide to take it in to local RSC for a full service, will they need to send the watch back to Geneva? The reason I'm asking is because I am not sure if local RSC's have the machines to test its 3900m depth?
From what I read in the magazines, these machines/tanks are in Geneva so how do local RSC's go about testing the deepsea after the service is complete?

Well although the DSSD uses the cal 3135 easily serviced but because of its rated depth that no man will ever use to the full.To test to its rated depth then its only certain places they can do it like the RSC. But in the real world if any watch passes say a pressure test to around 200-300m it will be fine for all normal water activities scuba pool etc.Do you dive or plan to exceed underwater depths of 300m to get into the exclusive group of guys that have gone past 300m just using scuba,.As today there have been more men that have gone to the moon than have gone past 300m just on scuba. Regarding service if your watch is running fine then myself would go another year before thinking about a service. Unless watch has been used in water a lot or worn 24/7 and used in say a dusty environment.

[HL65]

Why are you feeling need to get it serviced? Is it not running well or not within COSC? Just get a pressure check as Peter said above and save your money on the service!

[crowncollection]

Myself I would not worry about a service for seven years on a new watch, a pressure test at any good watchmaker with a Rolex parts account is fine, maybe gaskers are needed and you want original parts with a normal 300m test imho.This will suffice until Rolex service in a few years, they have the necessary equipment to do a full depth test, but it will definetely not leak in the meantine that's for Sure.:thumbup::beer:

[kilyung]

IIRC some of the RSCs now have the necessary equipment to pressure test to the stated depth so I doubt it'd be shipped back to Rolex SA.

[gpfps]

Rolex has the equipment in P.A Rolex center.

[Chewbacca]

the advice as stated by all above is on the money but if possible, can you post pix? if its a 5yr daily wear dssd, i'd love to see how it held up. thanks

[redsubby]

Thanks all.
The watch runs fine at this moment and probably doesn't require a service right now, I was just curious when it comes to that time, then how does RSC do the pressure test. I wasn't sure if the RSC's have proper equipment to pressure test the Deepsea. I understand that I will never go down that far but if the dial says 3900m, it is also my understanding that Rolex will have to make sure it don't leak at that depth, am I wrong? I mean what's the point of making such a watch if the stated depth rating is only good up until the watch is serviced, then it's the standard 300m-1220m after that?

[KBM]

Funny thing, if they pressured tested the watch to 300m and told you that it was good for 3900, no one would ever find out!

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by kauebm

Funny thing, if they pressured tested the watch to 300m and told you that it was good for 3900, no one would ever find out!

exactly it's really all in the owners head this amazing depth stuff, you will never use it or know any different

[jojosnr]

your local rsc may have the pressure test chamber. just check with them. and if they don't they shud be able to send your watch to one nearest to you that has. depending on where you are, it may just take a little longer. it is not feasible for every rsc to have the full set of equipment especially specialized ones for niche watches. that's partly why your DSSD is special.

Originally Posted by redsubby

Thanks all.
The watch runs fine at this moment and probably doesn't require a service right now, I was just curious when it comes to that time, then how does RSC do the pressure test. I wasn't sure if the RSC's have proper equipment to pressure test the Deepsea. I understand that I will never go down that far but if the dial says 3900m, it is also my understanding that Rolex will have to make sure it don't leak at that depth, am I wrong? I mean what's the point of making such a watch if the stated depth rating is only good up until the watch is serviced, then it's the standard 300m-1220m after that?

[dcash0615]

I know RSC Dallas has the necessary equipment to test the DSSD watch to the stated depth rating. Actually Rolex watches are tested beyond the stated depth rating. It is my understanding Rolex will not let any timepiece leave the RSC after a service if it does not pass all of their tests. This includes the depth rating.

Originally Posted by redsubby

Thanks all.
The watch runs fine at this moment and probably doesn't require a service right now, I was just curious when it comes to that time, then how does RSC do the pressure test. I wasn't sure if the RSC's have proper equipment to pressure test the Deepsea. I understand that I will never go down that far but if the dial says 3900m, it is also my understanding that Rolex will have to make sure it don't leak at that depth, am I wrong? I mean what's the point of making such a watch if the stated depth rating is only good up until the watch is serviced, then it's the standard 300m-1220m after that?

[padi56]

Originally Posted by kauebm

Funny thing, if they pressured tested the watch to 300m and told you that it was good for 3900, no one would ever find out!

Exactly and I am 100% sure no member on this forum would ever test it to 200m or 100m in the real world not alone 3900m.If a watch is going to leak it would show on test in most cases around 20m if it leaks then you have a problem. Just like if it leaks at 3900m but at that depth underwater you would be long dead so it would not really matter.

[ryandavid25]

Hello, as a ex scuba diver I just want to confirm what Peter (padi56) said above. I have enclosed a decompression table that is used by most scuba divers in the world, as you can see the Max depth is 40 meters this is because of the capacity of the Air Tank on your back and the time needed to decompress on the way back up. You get very little bottom time on a normal scuba dive as your breeding rate can be effected by the cold and other things. This is why the bezel on your dive watch only turns one way to stop you increasing your dive time by accident as you can only decrease your time if your bezel is moved by accident during a dive.

[zeuloa]

I'm sure RSC will sorted out. If it says 3900 meters on the dial then you have every right to have it tested to that depth!

Good luck.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by zeuloa

I'm sure RSC will sorted out. If it says 3900 meters on the dial then you have every right to have it tested to that depth!

Good luck.

True but have India on my car tyres but I am not going there.

[redsubby]

I think some of you are missing my point.
Of course none of us will ever go down to 3900m in the water but if it's advertized to go down that far, it had better be that way. And I think Dave was right that RSC will not let a watch leave without proper pressure testing, otherwise they would note the service paper that the watch was not test for whatever reason.
It's not a matter of me actually diving that far down (I don't even dive), but the simple question of if all RSC's have the proper equipment to carry out this test, and if not, what do they do with your Deepsea?

[waterman1]

Well said redsubby. Exactly.

[jojosnr]

i agree with you. I believe if they do not have the equipment, they would just send it to the nearest centre that has.

Originally Posted by redsubby

I think some of you are missing my point.
Of course none of us will ever go down to 3900m in the water but if it's advertized to go down that far, it had better be that way. And I think Dave was right that RSC will not let a watch leave without proper pressure testing, otherwise they would note the service paper that the watch was not test for whatever reason.
It's not a matter of me actually diving that far down (I don't even dive), but the simple question of if all RSC's have the proper equipment to carry out this test, and if not, what do they do with your Deepsea?

[jojosnr]

yes they could but they wont

Originally Posted by kauebm

Funny thing, if they pressured tested the watch to 300m and told you that it was good for 3900, no one would ever find out!

[skprd13]

I would be satisfied at 100m! And I am not sure I would ever see that depth! Actually no I know I would never see that depth. As for service 5 yrs is not a magic number as many have stated is the watch not running to specs? If so wait and save your money for another year or two. Just my 2 cents!

[hao881026]

I hope my reply help this debate to a close, if a watch is pressure tested to 200m or 300m, the rest 300m~ 3900m is rely on the strength of the case and sapphire. Because the higher outside pressure will just make the watch as a whole become tighter. There is no need to actually test actual leak. In another word, good case+good sapphire+ pressure test 300m = pressure test to 3900m

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by redsubby

I think some of you are missing my point.
Of course none of us will ever go down to 3900m in the water but if it's advertized to go down that far, it had better be that way. And I think Dave was right that RSC will not let a watch leave without proper pressure testing, otherwise they would note the service paper that the watch was not test for whatever reason.
It's not a matter of me actually diving that far down (I don't even dive), but the simple question of if all RSC's have the proper equipment to carry out this test, and if not, what do they do with your Deepsea?

Exactly how I feel. Who cares if your tires say India but you aren't going, they better be capable of it though. It's irrelevant what I'm going to do with the equipment, but the equipment needs to be capable of what it's sold/purposed for.
Again, just because I weigh 200lbs doesn't mean my climbing rope should be good for 1000lbs, if it says 8500lbs, that's what I expect.
Further more, let's say you get one of these boot leg tests for 100m, and your Deepsea leaks and you take it to RSC and show them the paper work that says it was tested for 100m, I'm pretty sure they'd say the watch wasn't calibrated to factory specs and that's why it leaked, now pay up. What will you say, the guys on TRF said it was ok though.

To me, if the watch says 3900m on the dial that's what it better be rated and tested at by the manufacturer and what the watch's maintenance requires. Everyone keeps talking about the practical application....like every single person here is a pilot with their GMTs, or Yachting with their YM, or racing with their Daytonas, or even Irish with their Sub LVc.
You're going to tell me that if you own a Veyron that you're going to forego that it requires $30k tires because hey, you're never going to hit 200mph right.

Originally Posted by hao881026

I hope my reply help this debate to a close, if a watch is pressure tested to 200m or 300m, the rest 300m~ 3900m is rely on the strength of the case and sapphire. Because the higher outside pressure will just make the watch as a whole become tighter. There is no need to actually test actual leak. In another word, good case+good sapphire+ pressure test 300m = pressure test to 3900m

This is a theory, but not logical at all. The Deepsea doesn't get it's rating solely by compression. In fact the reason it has a titanium back is to help the case flex from the pressure, were it steel it would likely crack. It's not an SR-71 Blackbird. So NO, a 300m pressure test does not equal 3900m. In fact it has been shown that in many cases Rolex test it's watches beyond the rated depth.

[Billywiz]

My car says 160mph poss....aint goin there...

[WatchnRoll]

I paid for 3900m and I want it! lol

I'll never use it but when I send mine in for service...it better be tested to the fullest.

Those service bills aren't cheap.