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Old 17 September 2013, 12:56 AM   #1
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does anybody know what year they changed band/clasp on gmt ii?

does anybody know what year they changed band/clasp on gmt ii?
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Old 17 September 2013, 12:58 AM   #2
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The newer clasp and bracelet is native to the 11671x watches..
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Old 17 September 2013, 01:00 AM   #3
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do you know what year they started with that number system?
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Old 17 September 2013, 01:05 AM   #4
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Are you referring to when they switched from 78360 to 78790/a bracelets and clasps?
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Old 17 September 2013, 01:11 AM   #5
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Im looking at a "v" serial number online and cant tell from the picture if its the heavier band
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Old 17 September 2013, 01:25 AM   #6
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A 'V' series will most likely have the ceramic bezel and the latest band/clasp, and
will be model 116710. As tools said, all of this latest model have the same
heavier band/clasp.

There are a small number of the older 16710 models with 'V' serial
numbers but it's unlikely to come across them. They will have the older
78790 band.

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Old 17 September 2013, 01:59 AM   #7
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does anybody know what year they changed band/clasp on gmt ii?
As others have pointed out all ceramic insert GMT-Master II Reference Numbers: 116710 all black insert (SS), 116713(TT), 116718(Gold) first date of production Basel release 2005/6 to present time will have the new bracelet and clasp.
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Old 17 September 2013, 02:30 AM   #8
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Im looking at a "v" serial number online and cant tell from the picture if its the heavier band
Yes, the V serial roughly corresponds to 2008-2010, and the newer GMTs were released in 2006. I have a V-serial 116710.
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Old 17 September 2013, 08:16 AM   #9
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Icon7 SS 116710LN GMT IIc introduced at Basel in 2007

Below found here (Not my authorship! This came from OP): http://www.timekeeperforum.com/threads/review-of-the-rolex-gmt-ii-116710ln.73/

(BTW, this is a great thread to read including the related links to the other GMT articles! There is so much neat history with the GMT.)
The steel/gold version (ref. 116713) came a year earlier, and the all-gold GMT II (ref. 116718) was launched in 2005 as an "Anniversary" model, sporting an all-green dial (later the all-gold version also came with a black dial option). The green-dial all-gold GMT II is still made and has never been "limited".

"LN" stands for "Lunette Noir" (French for "Black Bezel"), by the way.

The Oyster case of the GMT II 116710LN (from now on referred to as the "new GMT II") has been updated compared to the predecessor GMT II's. The case now has:
  • "Super Case" (sometimes also called "block case"): Larger lugs with vertical satination instead of diagonal, coarser sationation of the lugs than of those of the "old" GMT II's.
  • Triplock Crown as compared to the Twinlock Crown of the "old" GMT II's.
  • Flatter crystal and lower lying caseback.
  • AR (Anti-reflective) coating of the cyclops lense.
  • Green GMT hand (AKA "24-hour hand")
  • Green "GMT MASTER II" writing on the dial.
  • "Maxi Dial" (i.e.: larger hands and larger indices that provide more lume of the applied SuperLuminova).
  • Ceramic bezel insert (24 clicks) with numbers filled out with Platinum as compared to the anodized aluminium bezel insert of the "old" GMT II's with 120 clicks.
  • Updated bracelet and clasp: Solid, polished centre links. A heavier and much more complicated construction of the clasp, including a hidden "Easy Link".
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Old 17 September 2013, 05:07 PM   #10
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There are a small number of the older 16710 models with 'V' serial
numbers but it's unlikely to come across them. They will have the older
78790 band.

Jack D.
No 16710 have never been seen with a V serial.

If you have one to show us, it's very interesting ...
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Old 17 September 2013, 06:44 PM   #11
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I believe it was around 2005/2006 and Z serial.
That is the earliest I have seen in the YG 116718.
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Old 20 September 2013, 04:59 AM   #12
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No 16710 have never been seen with a V serial.

If you have one to show us, it's very interesting ...
Sorry, you're right. Last was 'M'. I misread some of my notes
regarding the series.

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Old 20 September 2013, 05:36 AM   #13
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I think i have seen 116710 come with Z serials. So the new clasp must have started in the Z's back in 2006/07 as others pointed.
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