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Louscamaro91 · 5 July 2014, 07:03 PM

Hello fellow members,
I recently acquired this 3035 movement for what I thought was a decent price ($150). The watch seems to all parts there save for needing a few new screws, the jewel above the balance assembly. Crown and winding stem.

The watch substained substantial water damage that sat in its case for an unknown time(rust cleaning easily). The owner replaced the movement and sold this to me. I'm really toting with the idea of having it restored, but, not if it's not cost effective. I have no idea as to what parts it will require, and if it is actually a canadate for investing the money to be restored. If it could cost more than $400 to get this watch going, I will try the following in my next paragraph..

I'm also considering the idea of disassembling the watch and taking a stab at it myself. I would consider myself experienced at disassembly and assembly, not nescesarry watches, but have a good memory of such tasks. My only issue would be obtaining parts that would be required for the job.

If I do decide to go at this, I will definitely post pictures and "as I go pictures".

So what do you watchmakers thinks? A doable project or destined failure?

In the last picture, I started to clean the dial. It is cleaner from the first set of pictures to the very last one.

Kobayashi · 5 July 2014, 08:28 PM

Are you the same Louscamaro91 on CGN? If so I have no doubt you can do this yourself. If you aren't that individual, sorry for the confusion.

The challenge is acquiring the parts. Unless you have a Rolex parts account or know a watchmaker with a Rolex parts account willing to sell you those items it'll be a challenge.

Oleg at Joe Escobar's in Campbell is a CW21 watchmaker. Giovanni at the service center in SF is another option as well as Joshua of Kroman Watchworks in San Jose.

Louscamaro91 · 6 July 2014, 12:46 AM

Haha, yes I am.
Thanks for the words of encouragement and references!

I'm definitely thinking I could do it, but worried about obtaining parts.
I'm not opposed to using aftermarket parts either.

I have been farting about with watches for the last year or so and I've been picking up tools along the way. I would say my confidence level is fair.
I'm also thinking that when dealing with quality parts and movement, the disasembly and assembly will go smoother than working on the cheaper windup watches that I've been experimenting on..

Anyone know of a good tutorial that outlines this movement?

Louscamaro91 · 6 July 2014, 02:34 AM

Anyone use antique time or his other name timebuilder?
Here is his webpage: http://www.horologist.com
I emailed this links and he is thinking he can get it going.
I'm thinking I'm going to pass on doing this myself, not because I don't think I'm capable, but more along the lines of having trouble sourcing parts...

Kobayashi · 6 July 2014, 03:25 AM

Others may know of that site so I'll defer any comments. Most on this forum would refer you to:

Rikki of Time Care Inc:

http://timecareinc.com

Vanessa of Jewelers on Time:

http://www.jewelersontime.com

Mention her name and TRF and you'll receive a discount.

Both Rikki and Vanessa are TRF members and highly regarded.

ABC Watchwerks is another consideration in LA:

http://www.abcwatchwerks.com

But if you're in the Bay Area you can also take it to the others I've mentioned in my previous post. Good luck!

Louscamaro91 · 6 July 2014, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kobayashi

Others may know of that site so I'll defer any comments. Most on this forum would refer you to:

Rikki of Time Care Inc:

http://timecareinc.com

Vanessa of Jewelers on Time:

http://www.jewelersontime.com

Mention her name and TRF and you'll receive a discount.

Both Rikki and Vanessa are TRF members and highly regarded.

ABC Watchwerks is another consideration in LA:

http://www.abcwatchwerks.com

But if you're in the Bay Area you can also take it to the others I've mentioned in my previous post. Good luck!

I've reached out to Rikki, I'm going to let him take a peak at it and go from there. No one in the greater SF area felt up to a challenge. They would rather take the COA work.

Thanks for the reference!

rmfnla · 8 July 2014, 02:21 AM

I think you should go for it!

It's not any good as it is and you got it for a song, exactly the kind of movement you want for your first attempt.

Can't wait to see the "as you go" pics; post lots!

Louscamaro91 · 8 July 2014, 06:45 AM

Pictures for rikki

Crwilsn · 9 July 2014, 11:05 AM

Its always the keyless. Top plate looked good but those pictures of the bottom scare me. Ive had a few eta movements that look like that and unfortunately if the rust from the keyless has gotten into the main plate, you may have a parts movement there. Still worth it for $150 though. You could part out the good bits from the top and still make your money back at least.

Look on the bright side, you cannot make it any worse by taking it apart.

rmfnla · 10 July 2014, 02:23 AM

I'm guessing you will need a new date wheel...

Nycturbovr6 · 10 July 2014, 02:47 AM

I'm sure it can be done.

crowncollection · 10 July 2014, 12:11 PM

i think you will get a fright when you start replacing so many parts as it is rusted, the cost to restore that movement will be high

rmfnla · 11 July 2014, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crowncollection

i think you will get a fright when you start replacing so many parts as it is rusted, the cost to restore that movement will be high

Not necessarily.

I've been gunsmithing for years and I've encountered many rusted parts that could be saved with a good cleaning.

Hopefully that will be the case here as well...

crhfish · 11 July 2014, 01:39 PM

I'll give my two cents worth on this as I have tried to fix quite a few basket cases over the years myself. The hairspring has to be shot, Its hard to see why it would not be compromised by the water. This movement is free sprung, so the balance assembly has to be correct, there is not much adjustment that can be done. You have other parts that will need to be replaced, several by the looks of the front of the movement. I would suspect the clutch is also shot as well as the mainspring. The date wheel needs to be replaced, etc.

Anything past 17 jewels means you are getting into multiple cap jewels. If you have never tried to lubricate a capped jewel, then you are in for a treat. It takes some experience and the correct tools to do this correctly. One little hicup and you are looking for the tiniest little thing you can imagine, the cap jewel, to try and get it back in its place.

If it were me, I would sell it and move on.

Louscamaro91 · 13 July 2014, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crhfish

I'll give my two cents worth on this as I have tried to fix quite a few basket cases over the years myself. The hairspring has to be shot, Its hard to see why it would not be compromised by the water. This movement is free sprung, so the balance assembly has to be correct, there is not much adjustment that can be done. You have other parts that will need to be replaced, several by the looks of the front of the movement. I would suspect the clutch is also shot as well as the mainspring. The date wheel needs to be replaced, etc.

Anything past 17 jewels means you are getting into multiple cap jewels. If you have never tried to lubricate a capped jewel, then you are in for a treat. It takes some experience and the correct tools to do this correctly. One little hicup and you are looking for the tiniest little thing you can imagine, the cap jewel, to try and get it back in its place.

If it were me, I would sell it and move on.

I have listed it on ebay. I'm moving on....

handsfull · 13 July 2014, 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louscamaro91

I have listed it on ebay. I'm moving on....

Wise man.

5 July 2014, 07:03 PM	#1
Louscamaro91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Lou Location: SF, CA Watch: All of them Posts: 94	To restore or not to restore, that is the question... Hello fellow members, I recently acquired this 3035 movement for what I thought was a decent price ($150). The watch seems to all parts there save for needing a few new screws, the jewel above the balance assembly. Crown and winding stem. The watch substained substantial water damage that sat in its case for an unknown time(rust cleaning easily). The owner replaced the movement and sold this to me. I'm really toting with the idea of having it restored, but, not if it's not cost effective. I have no idea as to what parts it will require, and if it is actually a canadate for investing the money to be restored. If it could cost more than $400 to get this watch going, I will try the following in my next paragraph.. I'm also considering the idea of disassembling the watch and taking a stab at it myself. I would consider myself experienced at disassembly and assembly, not nescesarry watches, but have a good memory of such tasks. My only issue would be obtaining parts that would be required for the job. If I do decide to go at this, I will definitely post pictures and "as I go pictures". So what do you watchmakers thinks? A doable project or destined failure? In the last picture, I started to clean the dial. It is cleaner from the first set of pictures to the very last one.

5 July 2014, 08:28 PM	#2
Kobayashi "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: SF Bay Area Watch: Any Rolex! Posts: 1,060	To restore or not to restore, that is the question... Are you the same Louscamaro91 on CGN? If so I have no doubt you can do this yourself. If you aren't that individual, sorry for the confusion. The challenge is acquiring the parts. Unless you have a Rolex parts account or know a watchmaker with a Rolex parts account willing to sell you those items it'll be a challenge. Oleg at Joe Escobar's in Campbell is a CW21 watchmaker. Giovanni at the service center in SF is another option as well as Joshua of Kroman Watchworks in San Jose.

8 July 2014, 02:21 AM	#7
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	I think you should go for it! It's not any good as it is and you got it for a song, exactly the kind of movement you want for your first attempt. Can't wait to see the "as you go" pics; post lots! __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

10 July 2014, 02:23 AM	#10
rmfnla "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Real Name: Richard Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: TT DJ Posts: 4,456	I'm guessing you will need a new date wheel... __________________ Today, I believe my jurisdiction ends here... Lug Hole Lover®

10 July 2014, 12:11 PM	#12
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,247	i think you will get a fright when you start replacing so many parts as it is rusted, the cost to restore that movement will be high __________________ watches many

6 July 2014, 12:46 AM	#3
Louscamaro91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Lou Location: SF, CA Watch: All of them Posts: 94	Haha, yes I am. Thanks for the words of encouragement and references! I'm definitely thinking I could do it, but worried about obtaining parts. I'm not opposed to using aftermarket parts either. I have been farting about with watches for the last year or so and I've been picking up tools along the way. I would say my confidence level is fair. I'm also thinking that when dealing with quality parts and movement, the disasembly and assembly will go smoother than working on the cheaper windup watches that I've been experimenting on.. Anyone know of a good tutorial that outlines this movement?

6 July 2014, 02:34 AM	#4
Louscamaro91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Lou Location: SF, CA Watch: All of them Posts: 94	Anyone use antique time or his other name timebuilder? Here is his webpage: http://www.horologist.com I emailed this links and he is thinking he can get it going. I'm thinking I'm going to pass on doing this myself, not because I don't think I'm capable, but more along the lines of having trouble sourcing parts...

6 July 2014, 03:25 AM	#5
Kobayashi "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Michael Location: SF Bay Area Watch: Any Rolex! Posts: 1,060	Others may know of that site so I'll defer any comments. Most on this forum would refer you to: Rikki of Time Care Inc: http://timecareinc.com Vanessa of Jewelers on Time: http://www.jewelersontime.com Mention her name and TRF and you'll receive a discount. Both Rikki and Vanessa are TRF members and highly regarded. ABC Watchwerks is another consideration in LA: http://www.abcwatchwerks.com But if you're in the Bay Area you can also take it to the others I've mentioned in my previous post. Good luck!

8 July 2014, 06:45 AM	#8
Louscamaro91 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Lou Location: SF, CA Watch: All of them Posts: 94	Pictures for rikki

9 July 2014, 11:05 AM	#9
Crwilsn "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Clay Location: Fairfax, VA Watch: 16710 and 16660 Posts: 29	Its always the keyless. Top plate looked good but those pictures of the bottom scare me. Ive had a few eta movements that look like that and unfortunately if the rust from the keyless has gotten into the main plate, you may have a parts movement there. Still worth it for $150 though. You could part out the good bits from the top and still make your money back at least. Look on the bright side, you cannot make it any worse by taking it apart.

10 July 2014, 02:47 AM	#11
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	I'm sure it can be done.

11 July 2014, 01:39 PM	#14
crhfish Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 159	I'll give my two cents worth on this as I have tried to fix quite a few basket cases over the years myself. The hairspring has to be shot, Its hard to see why it would not be compromised by the water. This movement is free sprung, so the balance assembly has to be correct, there is not much adjustment that can be done. You have other parts that will need to be replaced, several by the looks of the front of the movement. I would suspect the clutch is also shot as well as the mainspring. The date wheel needs to be replaced, etc. Anything past 17 jewels means you are getting into multiple cap jewels. If you have never tried to lubricate a capped jewel, then you are in for a treat. It takes some experience and the correct tools to do this correctly. One little hicup and you are looking for the tiniest little thing you can imagine, the cap jewel, to try and get it back in its place. If it were me, I would sell it and move on.

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