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fastrails · 19 July 2014, 06:27 AM

Hi, I am new to this forum and I am looking into purchasing a Rolex from the classified section here. I realized that there are well known sellers and some not so well known. What's the ideal way to go about purchasing from a seller here? Thank you.

Vincent

Tools · 19 July 2014, 07:42 AM

TRF is not a sales site..

You are not purchasing anything from the "site". As detailed in the guidelines posted in our For Sale Boards, it is a convenience for members who have a watch for sale and a member who is looking to buy.

All transactions are to be done by pm between the buyer and seller. All of them may have different requirements or desires - ask them; they will be happy to work with you.

fastrails · 19 July 2014, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

TRF is not a sales site..

You are not purchasing anything from the "site". As detailed in the guidelines posted in our For Sale Boards, it is a convenience for members who have a watch for sale and a member who is looking to buy.

All transactions are to be done by pm between the buyer and seller. All of them may have different requirements or desires - ask them; they will be happy to work with you.

Tools, thanks for the reminder. You're absolutely correct, my bad!

Chelseafan · 19 July 2014, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fastrails

Tools, thanks for the reminder. You're absolutely correct, my bad!

I am in same place but would add that the site does contain lots of endorsements of trusted sellers so I feel reassured as I think you are seeking to be.

fastrails · 19 July 2014, 08:26 AM

It seems like the method of payment is either wire transfer or paypal+fees. Paypal I get, but how do you protect yourself if it's a wire transfer.

AK797 · 19 July 2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fastrails

It seems like the method of payment is either wire transfer or paypal+fees. Paypal I get, but how do you protect yourself if it's a wire transfer.

Research the seller before you buy.

Kyu · 19 July 2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ak797

research the seller before you buy.

+1

Turpentine · 19 July 2014, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fastrails

Paypal I get, but how do you protect yourself if it's a wire transfer.

There is none.

14060m · 19 July 2014, 10:31 AM

It's been said before
Buy the seller not the watch
You could find any watch "for sale"
But a limited select few that I would buy from

lapince · 19 July 2014, 11:39 AM

There are very reputable sellers with great sales histories behind them, and there are others like me for whom it is the 1st time, even though I am very honest can't vouch for any other that I don't know, and in your place with a first time or almost seller, would ask for a face to face meeting, at an AD of the brand in question to get authentication if you are not an expert, I am selling 2 and am asking a face to face deal with the buyer, not expecting anything from TRF as 99% of the members are from US or at least not from the EU, some AD's do it for free, my Rolex AD in Paris does it for free, but they know me 25 years, not sure they do the same for everyone, some ask for a fee, which is the buyer who needs to pay. Good luck for your buy. Can advise you David SW, he has outstanding general opinion here, not on this forum in US is www.bernardwatch.com, just ordered a Blancpain from him, searching on the net I found that he has an excellent reputation, if you were in Europe I could give you a few great grey dealers but in the States apart from David SW and bernardwatch don't know any, you should post a new thread about "best grey dealers for (brand you want to buy)", many members will be happy to help you with this, it's one of them who put me on to bernardwatch because he knew what Blancpain I wanted, and I thank him immensely since with shipping and VAT for entry into Europe I am getting a watch in new condition for 9.900 euros instead of 11.700 euros, which was the best deal I found in Europe or anywhere else for that matter, and also in better condition. Also with internet you will find many sites where buyers talk about their experience with this or that dealer, I made a search for bernardwatch and all were unanimous about 1 thing that they were excellent for everything except 1 thing buying from you watches, but for selling they seem to be great, which made me go ahead as this is the 1st time I buy a watch without a face to face deal

good luck with your purchase, please post a new thread with pics when you get it, one of the things TRF members prefer is a new thread about a member getting a new watch with pics

Roll the Lex · 19 July 2014, 11:47 AM

I had the same concerns. With my first Rolex, I wanted it NOW and didn't want to spend time researching it. My second Rolex, I had spent a year on TRF and did enough research where I felt comfortable buying from a trusted seller. I bought a sub-c from davidsw and would buy from him again.

That being said, there is NO protection if you wire money. So you really better be comfortable buying from whoever.

If you buy from a seller here, you can save several thousands depending on the dealer, model, popularity. That is the biggest draw to buying to a seller here.

The biggest disadvantage is that there is no 100% guarantee that what you buy is real, isn't tampered with, or not stolen compared to buying from an authorized dealer. Other things to think about are getting an appraisal (if you want insurance) and resizing the bracelet (you can DIY or go to any jeweler to get that done. However depending on your relationship with them, you may have to pay extra for this, where if you buy from a dealer, this will all be thrown in for free.

Buying from an authorized dealer will guarantee 100% that you are getting a real Rolex. That's the biggest advantage. Usually you will have to pay more, but this is not always the case and it's not always thousands more. My first Rolex was a few hundred more from the dealer and my second Rolex was $2000 more from the dealer. And this is the biggest disadvantage.

There is no wrong way and you have to go with your gut- if you are uncomfortable buying for a seller, that's fine. Don't let everybody here push you into doing something you don't feel comfortable doing.

fastrails · 19 July 2014, 11:55 AM

Thanks everyone, really appreciate all your help. Yes I've been checking out the Who's Who and Watch Out sections. Also pulling up, and reading past posts from sellers. There were just questions about small time sellers, and wire transfer that I couldn't find enough info on.

AK797 · 19 July 2014, 07:20 PM

The one protection you have from a trusted seller here is this forum. If you have a problem you can post a thread here so I'm sure the seller would make things right rather than have his reputation take a beating.

The Libertine · 19 July 2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fastrails

Thanks everyone, really appreciate all your help. Yes I've been checking out the Who's Who and Watch Out sections. Also pulling up, and reading past posts from sellers. There were just questions about small time sellers, and wire transfer that I couldn't find enough info on.

Doing you research is the first step!

THC · 19 July 2014, 09:19 PM

If I may, I have bought and sold 2 different Rolexes from www.Goldwatchco.com
Dennis and his crew are 100% trustworthy. Overnight insured delivery included in price and they are very reasonable.

Racerdj · 19 July 2014, 09:25 PM

Before I purchased a Rolex from DavidSW, I read all the reviews I could about him. It was a flawless transaction without any problems and a fast delivery.

19 July 2014, 06:27 AM	#1
fastrails "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bay area Posts: 29	Purchase advice Hi, I am new to this forum and I am looking into purchasing a Rolex from the classified section here. I realized that there are well known sellers and some not so well known. What's the ideal way to go about purchasing from a seller here? Thank you. Vincent

19 July 2014, 07:42 AM	#2
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,496	TRF is not a sales site.. You are not purchasing anything from the "site". As detailed in the guidelines posted in our For Sale Boards, it is a convenience for members who have a watch for sale and a member who is looking to buy. All transactions are to be done by pm between the buyer and seller. All of them may have different requirements or desires - ask them; they will be happy to work with you. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

19 July 2014, 10:31 AM	#9
14060m "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Watch: 116610 , 16233 Posts: 1,802	It's been said before Buy the seller not the watch You could find any watch "for sale" But a limited select few that I would buy from __________________

19 July 2014, 09:25 PM	#16
Racerdj 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Indianapolis Watch: Patek-Philippe Posts: 16,832	Before I purchased a Rolex from DavidSW, I read all the reviews I could about him. It was a flawless transaction without any problems and a fast delivery. __________________ Rolex and Patek Philippe

19 July 2014, 08:26 AM	#5
fastrails "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bay area Posts: 29	It seems like the method of payment is either wire transfer or paypal+fees. Paypal I get, but how do you protect yourself if it's a wire transfer.

19 July 2014, 11:39 AM	#10
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	There are very reputable sellers with great sales histories behind them, and there are others like me for whom it is the 1st time, even though I am very honest can't vouch for any other that I don't know, and in your place with a first time or almost seller, would ask for a face to face meeting, at an AD of the brand in question to get authentication if you are not an expert, I am selling 2 and am asking a face to face deal with the buyer, not expecting anything from TRF as 99% of the members are from US or at least not from the EU, some AD's do it for free, my Rolex AD in Paris does it for free, but they know me 25 years, not sure they do the same for everyone, some ask for a fee, which is the buyer who needs to pay. Good luck for your buy. Can advise you David SW, he has outstanding general opinion here, not on this forum in US is www.bernardwatch.com, just ordered a Blancpain from him, searching on the net I found that he has an excellent reputation, if you were in Europe I could give you a few great grey dealers but in the States apart from David SW and bernardwatch don't know any, you should post a new thread about "best grey dealers for (brand you want to buy)", many members will be happy to help you with this, it's one of them who put me on to bernardwatch because he knew what Blancpain I wanted, and I thank him immensely since with shipping and VAT for entry into Europe I am getting a watch in new condition for 9.900 euros instead of 11.700 euros, which was the best deal I found in Europe or anywhere else for that matter, and also in better condition. Also with internet you will find many sites where buyers talk about their experience with this or that dealer, I made a search for bernardwatch and all were unanimous about 1 thing that they were excellent for everything except 1 thing buying from you watches, but for selling they seem to be great, which made me go ahead as this is the 1st time I buy a watch without a face to face deal good luck with your purchase, please post a new thread with pics when you get it, one of the things TRF members prefer is a new thread about a member getting a new watch with pics

19 July 2014, 11:47 AM	#11
Roll the Lex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,842	I had the same concerns. With my first Rolex, I wanted it NOW and didn't want to spend time researching it. My second Rolex, I had spent a year on TRF and did enough research where I felt comfortable buying from a trusted seller. I bought a sub-c from davidsw and would buy from him again. That being said, there is NO protection if you wire money. So you really better be comfortable buying from whoever. If you buy from a seller here, you can save several thousands depending on the dealer, model, popularity. That is the biggest draw to buying to a seller here. The biggest disadvantage is that there is no 100% guarantee that what you buy is real, isn't tampered with, or not stolen compared to buying from an authorized dealer. Other things to think about are getting an appraisal (if you want insurance) and resizing the bracelet (you can DIY or go to any jeweler to get that done. However depending on your relationship with them, you may have to pay extra for this, where if you buy from a dealer, this will all be thrown in for free. Buying from an authorized dealer will guarantee 100% that you are getting a real Rolex. That's the biggest advantage. Usually you will have to pay more, but this is not always the case and it's not always thousands more. My first Rolex was a few hundred more from the dealer and my second Rolex was $2000 more from the dealer. And this is the biggest disadvantage. There is no wrong way and you have to go with your gut- if you are uncomfortable buying for a seller, that's fine. Don't let everybody here push you into doing something you don't feel comfortable doing.

19 July 2014, 11:55 AM	#12
fastrails "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: bay area Posts: 29	Thanks everyone, really appreciate all your help. Yes I've been checking out the Who's Who and Watch Out sections. Also pulling up, and reading past posts from sellers. There were just questions about small time sellers, and wire transfer that I couldn't find enough info on.

19 July 2014, 07:20 PM	#13
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,368	The one protection you have from a trusted seller here is this forum. If you have a problem you can post a thread here so I'm sure the seller would make things right rather than have his reputation take a beating.

19 July 2014, 09:19 PM	#15
THC 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 126333 Posts: 10,662	If I may, I have bought and sold 2 different Rolexes from www.Goldwatchco.com Dennis and his crew are 100% trustworthy. Overnight insured delivery included in price and they are very reasonable.

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