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JJ Irani · 21 March 2008, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DSJ

Excellent AD service though!

koevoet · 21 March 2008, 03:46 AM

As I have mentioned in a couple of other posts, I am after a watch in the next couple of months and am erring towards a SD..but in my naivety I never thought that I would be needing to do such a strict check..I suppose I better ask for a loupe od the AD (is that pr loop,before I make I proper tube of myself!!lol).Am I too trusting of the mighty R and the carpeted halls of the AD....

JJ Irani · 21 March 2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by koevoet

As I have mentioned in a couple of other posts, I am after a watch in the next couple of months and am erring towards a SD..but in my naivety I never thought that I would be needing to do such a strict check..I suppose I better ask for a loupe od the AD (is that pr loop,before I make I proper tube of myself!!lol).Am I too trusting of the mighty R and the carpeted halls of the AD....

It's LOUPE.....and, as a paying customer, you should not feel "shy" to ask for one when about to buy a new Rolex.

Take your own sweet time examing the watch. I spend around FIVE whole minutes doing so....and the AD doesn't bat an eyelid.

You are the customer....a paying customer......and it's your privilege.

JJ

Baptistman · 21 March 2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by koevoet

As I have mentioned in a couple of other posts, I am after a watch in the next couple of months and am erring towards a SD..but in my naivety I never thought that I would be needing to do such a strict check..I suppose I better ask for a loupe od the AD (is that pr loop,before I make I proper tube of myself!!lol).Am I too trusting of the mighty R and the carpeted halls of the AD....

JJ's been saying it for years, and yes its pronounced loop. Best ask for a 10x loupe (loop) they sometimes have 5x loupes.

Do not be embarressed in asking for one. Satisfy yourself that everything is a-ok

Another arguement for going the AD route. What if I had gone Gray, where would I be now.

JJ Irani · 21 March 2008, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Baptistman

What if I had gone Gray, where would I be now.

EXACTLY!!! Another bloody thing I've been saying for friggin' years!!!!

SPACE-DWELLER · 21 March 2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

I see this thread reaching page 7 now!

Page 2 to come soon!

roadcarver · 21 March 2008, 04:04 AM

We're on page 2 now.

Do I hear page 3?

BTW, glad that you were able to replace your SD.

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Originally Posted by SPACE-DWELLER

Page 2 to come soon!

Chris B · 21 March 2008, 04:19 AM

Glad all's well that ends well Jon, methinks a letter to Rolex UK should be the order of the day, at least you might get some sort of explanation as to what was wrong.

JJ Irani · 21 March 2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris B

.....methinks a letter to Rolex UK should be the order of the day, at least you might get some sort of explanation as to what was wrong.

Now there's an idea!!

BlackpoolRolexCoaste · 21 March 2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

We're on page 2 now.

Do I hear page 3?

BTW, glad that you were able to replace your SD.

Page three with loop the loupe.......................!!

fear · 21 March 2008, 05:17 AM

Holy Moley!!! I'm glad it ended well. Jeez!

vegasvince · 21 March 2008, 06:13 AM

My God, how did that get past Rolex QC?

Perdu · 21 March 2008, 06:28 AM

Rolex, like every brand does not have a perfect record. I have seen oyster straps with differing sized gaps between the links and variations on the print job on the dial as others said. With my Sub. the lume never worked from day one.

Baptistman · 21 March 2008, 08:43 AM

I'm going to write a letter to Rolex at St James and copy it to Bexley and Geneva. Lets see what happens. Will keep you informed.

blackrhino12 · 21 March 2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

I wish you could have taken a good macro shot of that hole.JJ

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? Rolex gone wild DVD soon?

exchange83 · 21 March 2008, 08:56 AM

that's a shame. good thing you were able to get another one.

nsolga · 21 March 2008, 11:52 AM

Glad it got straightened out for you!

Paulie · 25 March 2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Whiskey

The metal blocks are made by pouring molten-metal into a cast. Should there be a variance in the temperature while that metal was poured, it would create an air-pocket/s in the castings.

Depending on how the machine at Rolex cut-out the cases, it's quite possible that in this case, the case was cut right smack through the middle of that air-pocket.

There's a movie on the Rolex site on the process with 904L. It's a bit virtual, but looks like the case is stamped from a blank, then cold forged into shape. See here: http://rolex.com/en/#/en/xml/inside-...rfection/index

There are new movies out there too!

four-thirteen · 26 March 2008, 03:39 AM

Stainless steel production is quite involved. Like all stainless steels, 904L is poured into a billet mold in a vacuum chamber to stop oxidization during cooling. After cooling, the billet is cold worked into the size of the stock desired by the customer. There is no possibility of air penetration during this process. Likely, the cause of the void in this instance is a small impurity that got caught in the metal during the pouring process and out-gassed during cooling. The cold working stretched the void into a long “pinhole” and by chance, it intersected the watch case. This doesn't happen often. I've never see anything like this in a production metal.

When a company buys a high quality alloy like 904L from a supplier, it is expected that the entire batch be defect free, that is the responsibility of the supplier. In this business, and others like the aerospace industry, the raw material makes up a very small part of the total production cost. There is really only a few dollars worth of stainless steel in a sea dweller, and that 10 tons of stainless Rolex reportedly rejected was worth about 400 grand, which is nothing compared to the amount of money they would pay to fix problems with 1% of the watches they would make with that 10 ton shipment.

This issue will go back to the supplier and their engineers will figure out why it happened and fix it. I doubt we will see this issue again. David

citidon · 27 March 2008, 09:26 AM

Is it me or is the case for that SD on the small side?!? SD are all in Medium size cases.

fear · 27 March 2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by citidon

Is it me or is the case for that SD on the small side?!? SD are all in Medium size cases.

Ok then, show me an automatic that has the history, status, and sheer strength of the SD?

Small? Well smaller than the overly blinged so-called dive watches out there, but much, much able to do it's job than ALL other dive jewelry out there. Puleeze.

mailman · 27 March 2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fear

Ok then, show me an automatic that has the history, status, and sheer strength of the SD?

Small? Well smaller than the overly blinged so-called dive watches out there, but much, much able to do it's job than ALL other dive jewelry out there. Puleeze.

No doubt the SD has all of the above. But aside from the strength part, the Sub has more of the first two things you mention.

I'm referring to the original concept of the tool watch both were produced to be.

fear · 27 March 2008, 10:40 AM

"But aside from the strength part, the Sub has more of the first two things you mention."

And that TOO!!!!

"I'm referring to the original concept of the tool watch both were produced to be."

21 March 2008, 06:13 AM	#42
vegasvince "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Vincent Location: Vegas, baby! Watch: one from ShopNBC! Posts: 436	My God, how did that get past Rolex QC? __________________ SeaDweller "Z" Yachtmaster "Z" Oyster Perpetual "M"

21 March 2008, 06:28 AM	#43
Perdu "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Gary Location: GMT-6 Watch: GMT Posts: 3,350	Rolex, like every brand does not have a perfect record. I have seen oyster straps with differing sized gaps between the links and variations on the print job on the dial as others said. With my Sub. the lume never worked from day one. __________________ Omega Seamaster 300M GMT Noire Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 Benson 1937 Sterling Silver Hunter

21 March 2008, 08:43 AM	#44
Baptistman "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Jon Location: UK Posts: 2,405	I'm going to write a letter to Rolex at St James and copy it to Bexley and Geneva. Lets see what happens. Will keep you informed. __________________ Whatever the watch, it's your wrist, it speaks to you, enjoy it

21 March 2008, 11:52 AM	#47
nsolga "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Real Name: Nick Location: Sonoma Co., CA Watch: GMTIIc Posts: 798	Glad it got straightened out for you! __________________ Present: 116710LN SS GMT-Master II C Past: 16610 SS Sub Date

21 March 2008, 03:46 AM	#32
koevoet "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 81	As I have mentioned in a couple of other posts, I am after a watch in the next couple of months and am erring towards a SD..but in my naivety I never thought that I would be needing to do such a strict check..I suppose I better ask for a loupe od the AD (is that pr loop,before I make I proper tube of myself!!lol).Am I too trusting of the mighty R and the carpeted halls of the AD....

21 March 2008, 04:19 AM	#38
Chris B "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peterborough Posts: 9,631	Glad all's well that ends well Jon, methinks a letter to Rolex UK should be the order of the day, at least you might get some sort of explanation as to what was wrong.

21 March 2008, 05:17 AM	#41
fear "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mililani, Oahu Posts: 1,307	Holy Moley!!! I'm glad it ended well. Jeez!

21 March 2008, 08:56 AM	#46
exchange83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Eric Location: New York Watch: Patek 5980r Posts: 489	that's a shame. good thing you were able to get another one.

26 March 2008, 03:39 AM	#49
four-thirteen Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NJ Watch: SD Posts: 31	Stainless steel production is quite involved. Like all stainless steels, 904L is poured into a billet mold in a vacuum chamber to stop oxidization during cooling. After cooling, the billet is cold worked into the size of the stock desired by the customer. There is no possibility of air penetration during this process. Likely, the cause of the void in this instance is a small impurity that got caught in the metal during the pouring process and out-gassed during cooling. The cold working stretched the void into a long “pinhole” and by chance, it intersected the watch case. This doesn't happen often. I've never see anything like this in a production metal. When a company buys a high quality alloy like 904L from a supplier, it is expected that the entire batch be defect free, that is the responsibility of the supplier. In this business, and others like the aerospace industry, the raw material makes up a very small part of the total production cost. There is really only a few dollars worth of stainless steel in a sea dweller, and that 10 tons of stainless Rolex reportedly rejected was worth about 400 grand, which is nothing compared to the amount of money they would pay to fix problems with 1% of the watches they would make with that 10 ton shipment. This issue will go back to the supplier and their engineers will figure out why it happened and fix it. I doubt we will see this issue again. David

27 March 2008, 09:26 AM	#50
citidon "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Don Location: NYC Watch: Sea-Dweller 4000 Posts: 166	Is it me or is the case for that SD on the small side?!? SD are all in Medium size cases.

27 March 2008, 10:40 AM	#53
fear "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mililani, Oahu Posts: 1,307	"But aside from the strength part, the Sub has more of the first two things you mention." And that TOO!!!! "I'm referring to the original concept of the tool watch both were produced to be."

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