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HDS · 27 August 2014, 07:35 AM

Dear folks - I've been looking for a solid and affordable 1016 for quite a while now and this one may be in reach. The case looks rather polished, not sure about the font / relume... but maybe I have become to paranoid. You will maybe see and know more – any input is much appreciated. No images of caseback/movement, alas.

Thanks in advance!!!

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HDS · 27 August 2014, 07:39 AM

Hm, the font I suspected seems similar to this
http://www.woodrich-trading.com/shop...ABC%201581.jpg

And the lumen of hands/dial seems to fit quite nicely and so on.
(But then again it could be a Yuki for all I know)

HDS · 27 August 2014, 10:24 AM

I've been looking at this for quite some time now. The 3 seems to be rounder than usual (but I've seen some dials with this) and the serifs of the E and L look strange (if this isn't just the photo), seem to go up AND down instead of just inwards. Although they seem a bit better on the angled photo. Hope all this guessing doesn't make me look TOO stupid, and actually it's great fun comparing dials and all this - I can see why you folks love this so much ;-D , but before closing the deal tomorrow I'd love to be sure(er) of what to do and have some more experienced counsel, if possible.

Tricky if you're not a pro but just a regular Junkie looking for a good catch... ;-) - maybe someone around here can help me make the right decision?

Thanks for taking some time with this...!

waQstar · 27 August 2014, 10:29 AM

Good day, there have been some excellent fakes, a recent read somewhere mentioned explorers as one of the faked ones... In a few hours some members with great eye and knowledge time will chime in and help you out...

HDS · 27 August 2014, 11:47 AM

The minute Hand also seems to be too short compared to other explorers from 1979. Quite frankly, I feel like this might be a bad idea.

HDS · 27 August 2014, 01:40 PM

After some more time spent looking at references at unhealthy zoom levels, I decided against it. And the hunt goes on... ;-).

WaQstar, many thanks for your kind words...!

SilentWitness · 31 August 2014, 02:55 AM

Wise to leave it alone, the lume looks like a relume on a refinished dial to me

linesiders · 31 August 2014, 04:40 AM

Hands look aftermarket, no?

mdw3 · 1 September 2014, 02:13 AM

Fake dial and hands. Move along.

Michael

alhamady89 · 1 September 2014, 06:03 AM

The hand could be genuine, however a 5513 hands instead, which fits perfectly and have a shorter minute hand.

HDS · 1 September 2014, 06:57 AM

Folks - many thanks for your input regarding this watch. Despite the very low price I decided to let this one go, as the typography on the dial, lume, 5513 hands and rather polished-down case would make this a bad buy even at below 4K.
Gets harder & harder to find an affordable sexy Explorer 1 or 2, but as always with watches part of the fun is looking for something nice.

Many thanks to all who chimed in.

gregorpal · 6 September 2014, 12:59 PM

agree. fake dial. distance between numbers and minute markers is too long. just a quick clue to know it is not a legit dial

27 August 2014, 07:35 AM	#1
HDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Thought on 1016 Dear folks - I've been looking for a solid and affordable 1016 for quite a while now and this one may be in reach. The case looks rather polished, not sure about the font / relume... but maybe I have become to paranoid. You will maybe see and know more – any input is much appreciated. No images of caseback/movement, alas. Thanks in advance!!!

27 August 2014, 10:29 AM	#4
waQstar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Walter A. Location: Sunny California Watch: 16760 Posts: 2,629	Good day, there have been some excellent fakes, a recent read somewhere mentioned explorers as one of the faked ones... In a few hours some members with great eye and knowledge time will chime in and help you out... __________________ Our shadows taller than our soul........

31 August 2014, 04:40 AM	#8
linesiders 2025 TitaniumYM Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,522	Hands look aftermarket, no? __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

27 August 2014, 07:39 AM	#2
HDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Hm, the font I suspected seems similar to this http://www.woodrich-trading.com/shop...ABC%201581.jpg And the lumen of hands/dial seems to fit quite nicely and so on. (But then again it could be a Yuki for all I know)

27 August 2014, 10:24 AM	#3
HDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 21	I've been looking at this for quite some time now. The 3 seems to be rounder than usual (but I've seen some dials with this) and the serifs of the E and L look strange (if this isn't just the photo), seem to go up AND down instead of just inwards. Although they seem a bit better on the angled photo. Hope all this guessing doesn't make me look TOO stupid, and actually it's great fun comparing dials and all this - I can see why you folks love this so much ;-D , but before closing the deal tomorrow I'd love to be sure(er) of what to do and have some more experienced counsel, if possible. Tricky if you're not a pro but just a regular Junkie looking for a good catch... ;-) - maybe someone around here can help me make the right decision? Thanks for taking some time with this...!

27 August 2014, 11:47 AM	#5
HDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 21	The minute Hand also seems to be too short compared to other explorers from 1979. Quite frankly, I feel like this might be a bad idea.

27 August 2014, 01:40 PM	#6
HDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 21	After some more time spent looking at references at unhealthy zoom levels, I decided against it. And the hunt goes on... ;-). WaQstar, many thanks for your kind words...!

31 August 2014, 02:55 AM	#7
SilentWitness "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: UK Posts: 1	Wise to leave it alone, the lume looks like a relume on a refinished dial to me

1 September 2014, 02:13 AM	#9
mdw3 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 677	Fake dial and hands. Move along. Michael

1 September 2014, 06:03 AM	#10
alhamady89 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Mohammed Location: Abu Dhabi Watch: 5513 Posts: 49	The hand could be genuine, however a 5513 hands instead, which fits perfectly and have a shorter minute hand.

1 September 2014, 06:57 AM	#11
HDS "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Folks - many thanks for your input regarding this watch. Despite the very low price I decided to let this one go, as the typography on the dial, lume, 5513 hands and rather polished-down case would make this a bad buy even at below 4K. Gets harder & harder to find an affordable sexy Explorer 1 or 2, but as always with watches part of the fun is looking for something nice. Many thanks to all who chimed in.

6 September 2014, 12:59 PM	#12
gregorpal "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Myplaceintheworld Posts: 360	agree. fake dial. distance between numbers and minute markers is too long. just a quick clue to know it is not a legit dial

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