2nd Opinion (pic heavy)

[petereoin]

Hi TRF

I am going to pull the trigger on a 5513 sub, realize that the crown and tube have been replaced during a previous service.

This watch is from another forum member, so I don't want to offend anyone with my request, just doing my due diligence.

Can the educated members of the forum provide a second opinion on the below photos.

The pip is no longer in the bezel.
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Thanks in advance

[petereoin]

Feedback, opinion would be appreciated

[1675-David]

Dial looks good, I'm a bit leary on the case. Based on the images you've posted I wouldn't pull the trigger, I'd ask for clearer images and specifically the crown guards both from front and back.

But thats just me! I really need to know what I'm getting into before buying a watch.

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

Dial looks good, I'm a bit leary on the case. Based on the images you've posted I wouldn't pull the trigger, I'd ask for clearer images and specifically the crown guards both from front and back.

But thats just me! I really need to know what I'm getting into before buying a watch.

I don't know enough on that dial to make a call other than it looks OK to me. I have not had that dial in my possession. Case overall looks OK, but not a top dollar case. A fair amount of 67-68 5513 have that style engraving on the 19 in the serial so it is probably legit, though the photos are a little soft (good case pics are hard). The CGs look OK from the one angle but would like more and better pics to see how rounded they have become.

So I think the case is OK, but in a mid-range condition, not top dollar. I echo the above in wanting better pics.

[CrownMe]

the case looks good to me. Still pretty thick. i just think it was polished without a lapping machine which took most of the chamfer edge off. But of course this could be fixed by Rolex, Abc, Bob etc.


The dial and insert look great. Cant speak on the authenticity of the dial because im not a expert but it looks very nice.

[nsumner]

Originally Posted by CrownMe

the case looks good to me. Still pretty thick. i just think it was polished without a lapping machine which took most of the chamfer edge off. But of course this could be fixed by Rolex, Abc, Bob etc.


The dial and insert look great. Cant speak on the authenticity of the dial because im not a expert but it looks very nice.

Agree with Kevin, the case looks really nice. It looks to have had a more "modern polish" with little to no bevel but the meat is still there.

Dial/hand set look great from the provided pics. Looks like a very nice MF, IMHO.

[CrownMe]

Originally Posted by nsumner

Agree with Kevin, the case looks really nice. It looks to have had a more "modern polish" with little to no bevel but the meat is still there.

Dial/hand set look great from the provided pics. Looks like a very nice MF, IMHO.

Yup looks more modern for sure. its a beautiful watch. the second picture shows the contrast of the insert to the dial. Looks great


Fyi i can not speak on the cases authenticity as well because i am not a expert. Im only commenting on the case condition.

[petereoin]

Thanks everyone for your feedback and comments. I knew this wasn't the top dollar range specimen, which I can live with.

[springer]

Originally Posted by nsumner

agree with kevin, the case looks really nice. It looks to have had a more "modern polish" with little to no bevel but the meat is still there.

Dial/hand set look great from the provided pics. Looks like a very nice mf, imho.

x3.

[Beaumont Miller II]

A little late to the party, but...
Not any great dial pics in the bunch, but from what i can tell, the dial looks to be in excellent condition with hands that match nicely.
Case shows minimal wear and appears to have had a recent polish. Case serial of 1.99 mil would be correct for a meters first dial.
Finished off with a nice insert.
A very nice watch that you can enjoy wearing everyday without worries.
Good luck.

[CrownMe]

Originally Posted by petereoin

Thanks everyone for your feedback and comments. I knew this wasn't the top dollar range specimen, which I can live with.

It actually is a top dollar piece or very close to imo. I don't see one negative thing about it. Goodluck with the purchase.

[RLX-lvr]

Yep, nice mf watch.

Dial looks perfect, and the case is pretty good as well. Something I would enjoy in my collection for sure.

Good luck luck with the purchase. Wear it often!

[1675-David]

I don't know if you should be concerned about this but would definitely be a deal breaker for me. The crown appears to be off centre in the crown guards. The crown guards also show an asymmetrical curvature on the faces towards the crown. Without better images it's difficult to make a judgement on something that could affect the performance and watertightness of the watch.

[The_Walrus]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

I don't know if you should be concerned about this but would definitely be a deal breaker for me. The crown appears to be off centre in the crown guards. The crown guards also show an asymmetrical curvature on the faces towards the crown. Without better images it's difficult to make a judgement on something that could affect the performance and watertightness of the watch.

David this looks to be distorted because of the way the natural light is reflecting on the watch from one angle.
I may be wrong but they look even to me.
OP if you do not go forward with the purchase I would appreciate information on the seller.
Thanks

[Vincent65]

I thought the CGs were uneven as well - certainly the lower one looks softer anyway...

[up2nogood]

I think the case assessments are correct.
Would make a great daily.

[linesiders]

Originally Posted by Vincent65

I thought the CGs were uneven as well - certainly the lower one looks softer anyway...

I think the CGs are a little soft & rounded, but could be the photos. If you put on your loupe and position your watch in the same profile, you will see that gap is slightly larger on the 6' side. In that photo is looks a little exaggerated but could be the photos. The CGs usually are not symmetrical on these and nor is the gap. In fact, when the CGs are symmetrical I get more suspicious.