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Octopus · 9 April 2008, 09:25 PM

I need help.

I want a new Sub ND. I also really want the one without the COSC or chapter ring writing. I have phoned around to a few ADs and they seem to be disapearing pretty fast.

The problem is I just can't quite afford it yet however I don't want to miss out and I certainly don't want to get one secondhand.

Can I please have some persuading arguments to take the plunge and just get it.

This damn watch has a curse on me and I can't stop thinking about it.

ROLEX MAN · 9 April 2008, 09:29 PM

Get It And Be Done With It!

SUPERDOC · 9 April 2008, 09:34 PM

Last night in the emergency room...I had a 4month old, and a 43 yr old come in VSA (vital signs absent)...

JUST BUY THE WATCH...

life is meant to be lived.

dkpw · 9 April 2008, 09:35 PM

If you have some money saved, and need to put the rest on a CC go for it.

Make sure you have set yourself a reasonable repayment schedule and stick to it, you'll feel fine and have exactly the watch YOU want, not one you can get.

After you have paid off your CC, you'll still have the watch of your dreams which will last a lifetime.

If it were me, I'd go for a new M Sub ND COSC but without the RBR if that's possible - but I'm fussy.

Good luck.

watchboy · 9 April 2008, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Octopus

I need help.

I want a new Sub ND. I also really want the one without the COSC or chapter ring writing. I have phoned around to a few ADs and they seem to be disapearing pretty fast.

The problem is I just can't quite afford it yet however I don't want to miss out and I certainly don't want to get one secondhand.

Can I please have some persuading arguments to take the plunge and just get it.

This damn watch has a curse on me and I can't stop thinking about it.

You are from Singapore? If yes, drop me a PM or email, maybe I can find someone to cure you!

Chappy · 9 April 2008, 10:02 PM

I just love my ND Sub , Mine has the engraved chapter ring and has COSC ... I had waited far to long to feel it on my wrist , sell a leg , whatever ... Do it !!!!!!!

unclesallie · 9 April 2008, 10:18 PM

you know, these watches will run forever. an old vintage sub, in decent shape you might find on the grey market from a reputable(can't emphasize 'reputable' enough)dealer, would be cheaper, and in the long run, maybe make you happier, since they're out of production and climbing in value. If, on the other hand, your heart's desire is set on a new Sub ND, well then, buy it, but don't complain about the payments(i don't believe in financing watches, but each to his own).
best, dan

Trurolexer · 9 April 2008, 11:14 PM

For me, I like the new Sub ND COSC with chapter ring. I wanna buy one this year. I hope so!!!

Octopus · 11 April 2008, 01:26 PM

Thanks for the advice eveyone.

I actually found a non COSC yesterday (thanks for the offer though watchboy) but unaware to me I see that the font used on the dial had changed. See pic below -

I also took a second look at the COSC and it really smiled back at me so after all that I will be going with the COSC after all. With regard to my need for a 'pure' sub I may then save up for a great condition vintage 5513 to satisfy that need as well.

Thanks again and I will be sure to put up some pics after I make my purchase :-)

Here is the pic of the non COSC with the different writing. Very dissapointing!

and here is the previous 'traditional' font used.

cody10911 · 11 April 2008, 01:29 PM

if i were buying a sub nd, i would buy a used one. If it has been recently serviced, it likely looks just like new. With the price raises I dont think i will ever buy i new one. i suggest you look into a pre loved rolex

Octopus · 11 April 2008, 01:35 PM

An AD has offered me a new COSC ND for $4500 US and i can also claim back 7% of that in sales tax. Considering the relatively high resale value of a second hand model it makes sense (well to me anyway) to spend a bit extra and have a brand new watch, as well as begin a long and loving relationship with my local AD.

If I pay on Amex at this particular AD I also get enough points for a return flight to Tokyo.

badsmac · 11 April 2008, 01:45 PM

Just FYI, JA Caldwell in King of Prussia,PA has a no date non COSC w/o engraving. I saw it tonight while drooling

Octopus · 11 April 2008, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badsmac

I saw it tonight while drooling

Hope you didn't end up too dehydrated!

watchlady · 11 April 2008, 02:04 PM

Here's my reasoning:
1-They aren't making anymore
2-They are just going to get harder to get
3-They could be tomorrows rare find

Here's Mine:

CPCC · 11 April 2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badsmac

Just FYI, JA Caldwell in King of Prussia,PA has a no date non COSC w/o engraving. I saw it tonight while drooling

I saw it too, and it had the new prices in place as well. Go figure, a discontinued MST master for 5700+
I passed on their watches.

CoopJr · 11 April 2008, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkpw

If you have some money saved, and need to put the rest on a CC go for it.
Good luck.

X2!

good plan...gets the Sub ND on your wrist ASAP. Just don't put too much on the CC.

TDH · 11 April 2008, 10:55 PM

We only live once.......get what your heart wants or you'll be messed up in the head!

wust588 · 12 April 2008, 07:00 AM

For what it's worth, I bought a Sub ND non Cosc on Monday. It is second hand, but only by definition. It's a Sept 07 "Z" series in absolute as new condition, in fact non run in yet.
I like it's uncluttered, understated dial without the " Officially Certified " etc label that the other models have, including the 114270 I bought recently.
It really is a lovely looking watch.
Hope you enjoy yours.
John.

9 April 2008, 09:25 PM	#1
Octopus "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 93	I need help! I need help. I want a new Sub ND. I also really want the one without the COSC or chapter ring writing. I have phoned around to a few ADs and they seem to be disapearing pretty fast. The problem is I just can't quite afford it yet however I don't want to miss out and I certainly don't want to get one secondhand. Can I please have some persuading arguments to take the plunge and just get it. This damn watch has a curse on me and I can't stop thinking about it.

9 April 2008, 09:29 PM	#2
ROLEX MAN 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Martin Location: Home and Away Watch: you? "YES PLEASE"! Posts: 3,714	Get It And Be Done With It! __________________ *it's not just about telling the time...* *happy rolexing...* I'm just a man with a passion

9 April 2008, 09:35 PM	#4
dkpw "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: Scotland Watch: 16610 & 214270 Posts: 1,294	If you have some money saved, and need to put the rest on a CC go for it. Make sure you have set yourself a reasonable repayment schedule and stick to it, you'll feel fine and have exactly the watch YOU want, not one you can get. After you have paid off your CC, you'll still have the watch of your dreams which will last a lifetime. If it were me, I'd go for a new M Sub ND COSC but without the RBR if that's possible - but I'm fussy. Good luck. __________________ Sub 16610, Explorer 214270, Ω Speedy Pro & many others. David

11 April 2008, 02:04 PM	#14
watchlady "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: the other Lisa Location: Metro New York Watch: SS/RG Datejust Posts: 1,014	Here's my reasoning: 1-They aren't making anymore 2-They are just going to get harder to get 3-They could be tomorrows rare find Here's Mine: __________________ Oyster Date 15200 : DJ Mid TT RG 178241: DJ SS 116234 Sub ND 14060M : PLATTY YM 16622 : Milgauss 116400 White

9 April 2008, 09:34 PM	#3
SUPERDOC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: R.J. Location: Canada Posts: 1,546	Last night in the emergency room...I had a 4month old, and a 43 yr old come in VSA (vital signs absent)... JUST BUY THE WATCH... life is meant to be lived.

9 April 2008, 10:02 PM	#6
Chappy Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Colin Location: ontario, canada Watch: ND Sub 14060M cosc Posts: 217	I just love my ND Sub , Mine has the engraved chapter ring and has COSC ... I had waited far to long to feel it on my wrist , sell a leg , whatever ... Do it !!!!!!!

9 April 2008, 10:18 PM	#7
unclesallie 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: dan Location: Pennsylvania Watch: keystone pocket Posts: 5,917	you know, these watches will run forever. an old vintage sub, in decent shape you might find on the grey market from a reputable(can't emphasize 'reputable' enough)dealer, would be cheaper, and in the long run, maybe make you happier, since they're out of production and climbing in value. If, on the other hand, your heart's desire is set on a new Sub ND, well then, buy it, but don't complain about the payments(i don't believe in financing watches, but each to his own). best, dan

9 April 2008, 11:14 PM	#8
Trurolexer Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Watch: 5513MaxiI+PreComex Posts: 18,421	For me, I like the new Sub ND COSC with chapter ring. I wanna buy one this year. I hope so!!!

11 April 2008, 01:26 PM	#9
Octopus "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 93	Thanks for the advice eveyone. I actually found a non COSC yesterday (thanks for the offer though watchboy) but unaware to me I see that the font used on the dial had changed. See pic below - I also took a second look at the COSC and it really smiled back at me so after all that I will be going with the COSC after all. With regard to my need for a 'pure' sub I may then save up for a great condition vintage 5513 to satisfy that need as well. Thanks again and I will be sure to put up some pics after I make my purchase :-) Here is the pic of the non COSC with the different writing. Very dissapointing! and here is the previous 'traditional' font used.

11 April 2008, 01:29 PM	#10
cody10911 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ardmore Posts: 74	if i were buying a sub nd, i would buy a used one. If it has been recently serviced, it likely looks just like new. With the price raises I dont think i will ever buy i new one. i suggest you look into a pre loved rolex

11 April 2008, 01:35 PM	#11
Octopus "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Singapore Posts: 93	An AD has offered me a new COSC ND for $4500 US and i can also claim back 7% of that in sales tax. Considering the relatively high resale value of a second hand model it makes sense (well to me anyway) to spend a bit extra and have a brand new watch, as well as begin a long and loving relationship with my local AD. If I pay on Amex at this particular AD I also get enough points for a return flight to Tokyo.

11 April 2008, 01:45 PM	#12
badsmac Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Brian Location: Mansfield,TX Watch: Rolex SS Sub Posts: 480	Just FYI, JA Caldwell in King of Prussia,PA has a no date non COSC w/o engraving. I saw it tonight while drooling

11 April 2008, 10:55 PM	#17
TDH "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Jay Location: Here n there Watch: Sub Posts: 1,641	We only live once.......get what your heart wants or you'll be messed up in the head!

12 April 2008, 07:00 AM	#18
wust588 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Stonnall, Staffs, Posts: 54	For what it's worth, I bought a Sub ND non Cosc on Monday. It is second hand, but only by definition. It's a Sept 07 "Z" series in absolute as new condition, in fact non run in yet. I like it's uncluttered, understated dial without the " Officially Certified " etc label that the other models have, including the 114270 I bought recently. It really is a lovely looking watch. Hope you enjoy yours. John.

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