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Old 30 March 2008, 12:57 AM   #1
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another counterfit tudor sub/please report

here is another of those dreaded fake tudors.
notice the swiss t<25 that tudor never used
also the case back is not properly marked,wrong second hand,wrong fonts all around,even the movement on this one is a counterfeit,the caliber number should be under the cog not to the left.
please report this before someone gets ripped off.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/TUDOR-SUBMARINER...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 31 March 2008, 03:26 AM   #2
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it is still up and running??another poor chap is about to loose their hard earned money....
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Old 31 March 2008, 05:58 PM   #3
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also notice the crown guards on the bottom are not tappered.
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Old 1 April 2008, 09:09 AM   #4
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has anyone noticed the counterfeiters are using a new serial number,so please take note!
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Old 4 April 2008, 05:56 AM   #5
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Personally,.......I dont believe its a fake at all. Why do you think this is a fake???

Nevermind...I just read your thread.....I still think its a Genuine Tudor.
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Old 4 April 2008, 08:53 PM   #6
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are you kidding me?.If you think that is real then boy have I got some good deals for you.
why dont you check out the military watch forum and then make your decision.
http://www.mwrforum.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7521
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Old 4 April 2008, 08:55 PM   #7
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Personally,.......I dont believe its a fake at all. Why do you think this is a fake???

Nevermind...I just read your thread.....I still think its a Genuine Tudor.

I hope your not foolish enough to bid on that garbage.I am trying to keep people from getting ripped off.but I cant force you to listen...
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Old 5 April 2008, 08:26 AM   #8
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If you get the watch that is pictured, it is authentic.
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Old 5 April 2008, 08:45 AM   #9
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If you get the watch that is pictured, it is authentic.
I dont know how you could possibly say that.do you know anything at all about the tudor 7016-0?
first off-the dial is most definitly not correct-tudor never used the swiss t<25 notation at the bottom of their dials-that was rolex.the second hand is the small circle when it should be the large version,the fonts are off.the crown guards are the one solid peice of evidence that proves it is fake-they are supposed to be tappered at the bottom like an elbow,these are not.none of the engravings look deep enough-on the case back or between the lugs.inside the case back is an obvious forgery besides the fact that it is missing the reference number,there also are not one watchmakers repair mark in it..in a 30 plus year old watch????
come on-what are you the seller?
and last but certainly not least-that movement is not correct!the 2483 should be stamped below the cog wheel-not to the right of it.
so tell me how it could not be a fake?
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Old 15 April 2008, 04:51 PM   #10
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Icon4 Another fake Tudor Sub 7016 ?

Posted on the Bay.
This one seems to have all the earmarks of recent manufacture.

http//cgi.ebay.com/100-ORIG-ROLEX-TUDOR-SUBMARINER-REF-7016-0-CAL-2483_W0QQitemZ260228100247QQihZ016QQcategoryZ31387 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Old 15 April 2008, 05:06 PM   #11
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Hi, all i can say is if Steve says a Tudor is fake- IT IS! bit i do think from the photos etc the seller does genuinely think its real- he goes into a lot of detail with pictures and would not do so if he knew he was selling a fake- well thats my opinion
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Old 15 April 2008, 06:14 PM   #12
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I hope your not foolish enough to bid on that garbage.I am trying to keep people from getting ripped off.but I cant force you to listen...
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here is another of those dreaded fake tudors.
notice the swiss t<25 that tudor never used
also the case back is not properly marked,wrong second hand,wrong fonts all around,even the movement on this one is a counterfeit,the caliber number should be under the cog not to the left.
please report this before someone gets ripped off.
cheers all.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TUDOR-SUBMARINER...QQcmdZViewItem
HI STEVE,
THERE'S A TUDOR MONTE-CARLO PUT UP AS WELL AND ONE OF MY FRIENDS JUST CALLED ME AND IN HIS OPINION IT'S A FAKE.........HAVE A LOOK ......YOUR OPINION GREATLY APPRECIATED AND OTHER HAWK EYES AS WELL !

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Old 15 April 2008, 09:35 PM   #13
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HI STEVE,
THERE'S A TUDOR MONTE-CARLO PUT UP AS WELL AND ONE OF MY FRIENDS JUST CALLED ME AND IN HIS OPINION IT'S A FAKE.........HAVE A LOOK ......YOUR OPINION GREATLY APPRECIATED AND OTHER HAWK EYES AS WELL !

It just appears getting more and more fake monte carlo in the bay nowadays esp the 7031/0 and 7032/0 ....
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Old 16 April 2008, 03:14 AM   #14
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Icon4 Another Questionable Tudor Sub

I posted this one 4 posts above, but I seem to have got the link wrong.

Try this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=016

This certainly has all the indications of a bogus watch and the seller appears to know it. Set everything up for secrecy and no Paypal protection.

Still interested in opinions on this one. I sent a message to the seller to ask about the last 3 digits of the serial number but, of course, he didn't reply.
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Old 16 April 2008, 07:50 AM   #15
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that is a definite fake!!!!dont go near it.Ive got one of them with the same serial number and everything.
p.s. wheres the link for the monte carlo?
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Old 16 April 2008, 12:22 PM   #16
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HERE'S THE LINK STEVE FOR MONTE-CARLO.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...TODAY.m238.lVI
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Old 16 April 2008, 08:19 PM   #17
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did you notice how he made a disclaimer there,he said "I know nothing about these watches",I beleive he knows that the watch is not authentic.at least to me,it appears that the case is not authentic and the dial looks a little off.beside that-I would never buy a watch from someone who doesnt at least wash his hands before handling his watch.did you see the oil on his fingers...lol
anyway,I will check out more on this model in the coming days.I would hate to think that the chinese company making the fake subs has started to make the monte carlo as well,thank you for the heads up bhupesh.
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Old 16 April 2008, 11:33 PM   #18
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Stay away from this so-called 7031/0 ...
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Old 17 April 2008, 08:06 AM   #19
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Stay away from this so-called 7031/0 ...
so you agree that it is a fake?
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Old 17 April 2008, 08:17 AM   #20
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Guys, listen to Steve - it is fake
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Old 17 April 2008, 10:42 AM   #21
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so you agree that it is a fake?
Yes ... problematic dial, case, case back and movement ....
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I posted this one 4 posts above, but I seem to have got the link wrong.

Try this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=016

This certainly has all the indications of a bogus watch and the seller appears to know it. Set everything up for secrecy and no Paypal protection.

Still interested in opinions on this one. I sent a message to the seller to ask about the last 3 digits of the serial number but, of course, he didn't reply.

i agree on that one wintermutt - the model engraving looked way too new and deep - and didn't see any rub marks above it on the case (between the lugs) from bracelet wear
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