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haljordan · 22 April 2008, 10:44 AM

I purchased this watch a couple years ago and have had it serviced at a local Rolex technician. Even though he verified its authenticity i was wondering what it would be worth and if it is all oe. 593 and 93150 are the numbers on the bandAny info would help,thanks.

sherwin · 22 April 2008, 11:00 AM

that looks cool. the bezel looks aged. i have no idea cost wise. my guesstimate would put it at US$1.5k (i think a bit little)

Shuvi · 22 April 2008, 11:10 AM

I don't believe anyone that's ever seen Rolex watches professionally would think that was real.

stevemulholland3 · 22 April 2008, 11:50 AM

im no explorer officianado,but it looks o.k. to me

Terry Newton · 22 April 2008, 11:54 AM

What happened to the black in the bezel's numbers? I am unaware of the age of the watch. The Rolex Technician verified that it is a what? When you say Rolex Technician was this guy at a local watch repair center and, what makes him a Rolex Technician?

The numbers you describe are listed as follows from the bracelet:

Heavy duty Rolex Flip-lock 93150 bracelet with 593 end links. The only thing that I found funny about this reference number is that it is associated with a Submariner watch instead of an Explorer. I could be mistaken but I found this reference only associated with Submariner Watches. Somebody else needs to pipe in here because I am not an authority by any means. The watch looks odd though. No offense. Maybe somebody else will shed a light on it.

Terry Newton

2careless · 22 April 2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shuvi

I don't believe anyone that's ever seen Rolex watches professionally would think that was real.

Let's hear your reasons why you are stating your opinions in such a forceful way. We're all ears here.

Shuvi · 22 April 2008, 11:58 AM

Date font.

haljordan · 22 April 2008, 11:59 AM

Says the guy with two posts. Again I did take it to an authorized tech in RI and it was verified. Anyone here from RI? thanks for the input regardless.

Shuvi · 22 April 2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by haljordan

Says the guy with two posts. Again I did take it to an authorized tech in RI and it was verified. Anyone here from RI? thanks for the input regardless.

Irony much?

haljordan · 22 April 2008, 12:22 PM

yet im not posting like i know everything.Im not on here to bicker or dispute but to get the expertise on this forum to help me out.This was a part that was replaced the last time I took the watch in.

CoopJr · 22 April 2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by haljordan

593 and 93150 are the numbers on the band

They match. 593 & 9315 or 93150 = SS, 20mm Oyster bracelet W/Flip lock found on the Explorer.

CoopJr · 22 April 2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Shuvi

Date font.

Looks good to me...correct font and magnification. I have seen old Explorers that have lost the black off of the bezel numbers.

Terry Newton · 22 April 2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

They match. 593 & 9315 or 93150 = SS, 20mm Oyster bracelet W/Flip lock found on the Explorer.

Thanks for sharing that information. I kept finding that associated with a Submariner. Opinion on the bezel and age of the watch?

Terry Newton

CoopJr · 22 April 2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Thanks for sharing that information. I kept finding that associated with a Submariner. Opinion on the bezel and age of the watch?

Terry Newton

You're welcome Terry...you are correct about the Sub. My copy of the Rolex Report lists the Sub as having this bracelet code as well but there are 4 different end pieces that can be found on this code bracelet. They are listed as 501B, 558B, 580 and 593.

Defiancekofb · 22 April 2008, 12:53 PM

It looks like someone over polished the bezel, I have seen an ebay Daytona bezel similar to this. It's like the black font on the bezel was polished to oblivion. But all of the markings look genuine from the naked eye.

haljordan · 22 April 2008, 12:58 PM

Thanks you guys. Do you think I can get at least $1500 for her? I have no papers though...again thanks, really

CoopJr · 22 April 2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by haljordan

Thanks you guys. Do you think I can get at least $1500 for her? I have no papers though...again thanks, really

I would think easily so if the authenticating technician is Rolex trained and provided you with a detailed receipt of the work done. I would suggest much clearer pictures though but don't appear to offer it for sale here until you have been a member for at least 15 days and have at least 15 posts.

erwin · 22 April 2008, 01:19 PM

Try posting it here ( for sale section ), prettty sure you'll get good offers!

sleedawg · 22 April 2008, 06:30 PM

The bracelet numbers do represent an Oyster bracelet, but it's not for the Explorer II.

An Explorer II comes from the factory with a 78360 bracelet with 501B endlinks or a 78790A with SEL.

I'm sure if we see the clasp and the attachment point to the clasp, you'll see a Submariner style flip lock clasp (almost 2 inches long) versus the smaller Explorer II and GMT II clasp (about an inch long). If it doesn't have a flip lock clasp, then it's even older than that. Maybe late 80s vintage. Given that it's a tritium dial, it definitely pre-dates to before 1999.

In regards to the bezel, yeah... that's what happens to steel bezel with the black markings after a couple of polishings. New bezel ain't cheap.

sleedawg · 22 April 2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shuvi

Date font.

That font was used on Rolex on the more vintage pieces. Don't know when they stopped using the open number fonts though.

JJ Irani · 22 April 2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sleedawg

That font was used on Rolex on the more vintage pieces. Don't know when they stopped using the open number fonts though.

Correct. The open fonts on '6' and '9' were very popular up until the mid-70s or thereabouts. Later models came in with the closed fonts.

JJ

sherwin · 22 April 2008, 06:43 PM

i think open date fonts look better then the closed ones. anyone else think so?

JJ Irani · 22 April 2008, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seiko.citizen

i think open date fonts look better then the closed ones. anyone else think so?

Hmmm.....on vintage models, I guess so. On the new ones, I prefer the closed fonts.

JJ

toph · 22 April 2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CoopJr

Looks good to me...correct font and magnification. I have seen old Explorers that have lost the black off of the bezel numbers.

x 2

CoopJr · 22 April 2008, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleedawg

The bracelet numbers do represent an Oyster bracelet, but it's not for the Explorer II.

An Explorer II comes from the factory with a 78360 bracelet with 501B endlinks or a 78790A with SEL.

The Rolex Report doesnt make differentiate between EXP and EXP II (just says EXP) so this is more information in the mix

Does the braclelet in question have a flip lock?

haljordan · 23 April 2008, 12:57 AM

This is the clasp. All this info is great...

Terry Newton · 23 April 2008, 01:41 AM

That definitely looks like it might be a Submariner bracelet. If you look inside of the clasp it will have a "o" on one of the links. If it does push it to release the extender for the dive suit. It will release an extender. If that has that "o" it is a Submariner bracelet. If it does not have that it is an Explorer II bracelet. If it is the wrong bracelet that is supposed to go with the watch it may detract from the price you can ask for it as some insist that all of the parts be original and made to the watch it was designed for.

Terry Newton

sleedawg · 23 April 2008, 02:34 AM

The 93250 has the "o" marking in the clasp and is the newer style diver extension. 93150 is the old school tug on the band and extend version.

The clasp is definitely a sub no-date style bracelet, not an Explorer bracelet.

pwrslider · 24 April 2008, 10:32 AM

The expy II is real...........mine looks similar...not quite as worn...but close. The date font is the same...these are <T25 dials....

Wingshooter · 28 April 2008, 08:20 AM

I do like the watch. If you could get the Auth paper from the tech I would be interested in the watch for my first Rolex. I like the older looking ones that have "character". Explorers with the black face seem to be a hit with me. I travel an awful lot and like the 24hr hand also. Let me know your thoughts.

22 April 2008, 11:00 AM	#2
sherwin "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth/Singapore Posts: 1,764	that looks cool. the bezel looks aged. i have no idea cost wise. my guesstimate would put it at US$1.5k (i think a bit little) __________________ Want to Buy:SS GMT black;116509 WG Daytona Metrorite

22 April 2008, 11:54 AM	#5
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	What happened to the black in the bezel's numbers? I am unaware of the age of the watch. The Rolex Technician verified that it is a what? When you say Rolex Technician was this guy at a local watch repair center and, what makes him a Rolex Technician? The numbers you describe are listed as follows from the bracelet: Heavy duty Rolex Flip-lock 93150 bracelet with 593 end links. The only thing that I found funny about this reference number is that it is associated with a Submariner watch instead of an Explorer. I could be mistaken but I found this reference only associated with Submariner Watches. Somebody else needs to pipe in here because I am not an authority by any means. The watch looks odd though. No offense. Maybe somebody else will shed a light on it. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

22 April 2008, 01:19 PM	#18
erwin - Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Erwin Location: Hollywood, Ca Watch: SD Posts: 1,032	Try posting it here ( for sale section ), prettty sure you'll get good offers! __________________ Your watch silently speaks about your character! sd/datejust/tudor/a couple of vintage omegas/tissotMB Meisterstuck Bordeaux pen/MB Noblesse Oblige/Starwalker/MB Classique Fountain pen/MB no 149

22 April 2008, 06:43 PM	#22
sherwin "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth/Singapore Posts: 1,764	i think open date fonts look better then the closed ones. anyone else think so? __________________ Want to Buy:SS GMT black;116509 WG Daytona Metrorite

23 April 2008, 01:41 AM	#27
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	That definitely looks like it might be a Submariner bracelet. If you look inside of the clasp it will have a "o" on one of the links. If it does push it to release the extender for the dive suit. It will release an extender. If that has that "o" it is a Submariner bracelet. If it does not have that it is an Explorer II bracelet. If it is the wrong bracelet that is supposed to go with the watch it may detract from the price you can ask for it as some insist that all of the parts be original and made to the watch it was designed for. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

22 April 2008, 11:10 AM	#3
Shuvi "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dullsville Posts: 3	I don't believe anyone that's ever seen Rolex watches professionally would think that was real.

22 April 2008, 11:50 AM	#4
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,672	im no explorer officianado,but it looks o.k. to me

22 April 2008, 11:58 AM	#7
Shuvi "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Dullsville Posts: 3	Date font.

22 April 2008, 11:59 AM	#8
haljordan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cranston RI Posts: 5	Says the guy with two posts. Again I did take it to an authorized tech in RI and it was verified. Anyone here from RI? thanks for the input regardless.

22 April 2008, 12:53 PM	#15
Defiancekofb "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: US Posts: 1,999	It looks like someone over polished the bezel, I have seen an ebay Daytona bezel similar to this. It's like the black font on the bezel was polished to oblivion. But all of the markings look genuine from the naked eye.

22 April 2008, 12:58 PM	#16
haljordan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cranston RI Posts: 5	Thanks you guys. Do you think I can get at least $1500 for her? I have no papers though...again thanks, really

22 April 2008, 06:30 PM	#19
sleedawg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 383	The bracelet numbers do represent an Oyster bracelet, but it's not for the Explorer II. An Explorer II comes from the factory with a 78360 bracelet with 501B endlinks or a 78790A with SEL. I'm sure if we see the clasp and the attachment point to the clasp, you'll see a Submariner style flip lock clasp (almost 2 inches long) versus the smaller Explorer II and GMT II clasp (about an inch long). If it doesn't have a flip lock clasp, then it's even older than that. Maybe late 80s vintage. Given that it's a tritium dial, it definitely pre-dates to before 1999. In regards to the bezel, yeah... that's what happens to steel bezel with the black markings after a couple of polishings. New bezel ain't cheap.

23 April 2008, 02:34 AM	#28
sleedawg "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 383	The 93250 has the "o" marking in the clasp and is the newer style diver extension. 93150 is the old school tug on the band and extend version. The clasp is definitely a sub no-date style bracelet, not an Explorer bracelet.

24 April 2008, 10:32 AM	#29
pwrslider "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Steve Location: SF BAY AREA CA Watch: 16710 Coke Posts: 3,047	The expy II is real...........mine looks similar...not quite as worn...but close. The date font is the same...these are <T25 dials.... __________________ Rolex Blue TT Submariner (95) Rolex SS GMT IIc (08) Rolex GMT II 16710 COKE (08 for me..) Rolex Explorer II Blk (91) Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish (07) Panerai 104 & 177ti ( 04/03)

28 April 2008, 08:20 AM	#30
Wingshooter Banned Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 146	I do like the watch. If you could get the Auth paper from the tech I would be interested in the watch for my first Rolex. I like the older looking ones that have "character". Explorers with the black face seem to be a hit with me. I travel an awful lot and like the 24hr hand also. Let me know your thoughts.

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