Hi all, new to the forum, need to ask some advice!

[shedlock2000]

Hi all,

I am new to the forum, and am the owner of a GMT II i bought new for my 30th. Sadly i did not know there was to be an upgrade of this model. Its a steel and black bezel 2006, i am thinking of trading it in for a new 116710 in either steel, or steel and gold, but am struggeling with a little duality! I like the classic refined look of the older GMT, and the bezel with multipul positions inside an hour (handy for egg timing!) and the less 'in your face' numerics on the bezel face. But i like the ceramic bezel, and the lareger triplock crown, the rolex written on the inside rimm of the casing, and the anti glare cyclops, and i most of all love the bracelet and clasp! at last they fixed the biggest let down to the watch. But i am not so certain about the bigger decals and markings on the face and the bigger bolder casing and bezel marings, nor am i certain if i like the steel and gold, or the steel,

Maybee i should try and find a steel and gold earlier gmt? does anyone know if the bracelet from the new GMT will fit the older GMT? and what opinions of my dialema do you all have?

thanks for your advice, i awate with interest!

steve

[JostheBoss]

Welcome to TRF Steve! Hope you have a long and pleasant stay :)


Congratulations on your new acquisition! It is a very nice timepiece, the all black bezeled 16710. Sorry to hear you didn't know there was a new GMT on the market, but no matter! Holding onto this one may be wise as its not in production any longer (so goes the word on the street)

Certainly, the new GMT IIc marked a radical new era in design in the Rolex Professional line-up. All models will be sporting the new look in future, as the new sub and Seadweller have proven. The TT (two tone) models of the new GMT are really attractive, but not being a TT man myself, I love the SS (Stainless Steel)

I think a TT older version GMT II may be hard to come by...

[SPACE-DWELLER]

Welcome to TRF, Steve!

I'd just keep the SS GMT II that you have and save for the updated version if I were you instead of doing this modification. Also, if you want to buy the new SS GMT IIc bracelet as a spare part, you are looking at about US $ 2,000!

Anyway, I believe it would fit... well sorta! A member here posted a pic of an SS Sub Date with the new GMT IIc bracelet on it. The underside of the endpieces were protuding a bit, though.

[Mr Sandman]

Originally Posted by JostheBoss

Welcome to TRF Steve! Hope you have a long and pleasant stay :)


Congratulations on your new acquisition! It is a very nice timepiece, the all black bezeled 16710. Sorry to hear you didn't know there was a new GMT on the market, but no matter! Holding onto this one may be wise as its not in production any longer (so goes the word on the street)

Certainly, the new GMT IIc marked a radical new era in design in the Rolex Professional line-up. All models will be sporting the new look in future, as the new sub and Seadweller have proven. The TT (two tone) models of the new GMT are really attractive, but not being a TT man myself, I love the SS (Stainless Steel)

I think a TT older version GMT II may be hard to come by...

Hi and welcome to TRF

I agree with Jos, keep hold of the GMT you currently have as its no longer available and you wont get what you paid for it on trade in.If I was in your postition I would go for the new GMT IIc two tone when you have the funds to do so..

I would almost certainly say that you would regret it if you traded in your current GMT to do this....Its not all that bad being a multi Rolex owner....Just gets a bit exspensive sometimes

Enjoy both your watch and the thrill of getting another to keep it company

[PhilM]

Hey welcome to TRF

BTW I'd keep the GMT II, it's a great watch IMO

[marke]

welcome to the forum, i would agree with the other comments, keep the Gmt you have, and save your hard earned pennies to get the GMT 11 C at a later date. find a dealer that can offer 0% as some do in the UK and go for it..

speak soon

Mark

[vukotab]

Welcome to TRF!
You already have a great watch,it`s classic and,if I were you,I would keep it.
In time,you could save money for newer model,or something completely different...

[Dan Pierce]

Welcome to TRF! Many find the features found on the 16710 to be very dersirable. The upgrades on the GMT II: movement, bracelet are true improvements too. I think they belong to compliment each other. Save, buy both, Rolex will make more.
dP

[Tools]

Boy, that's quite a predicament....

Personally, I have the same issues with the new GMT as you.. I know that with those little things picking at my brain all the time I would not give the GMTc any wrist time...

The older 16710 now, I like the red/black and you have to pry that off my wlrist when it's on. I don't find anything wrong with it and it's one of the more comfortable and versatile watches I have..

apparently I can't help you.........

[Baptistman]

Personally, I would keep the GMT you have, it screams "classic Rolex" and I for one prefer it.

[Beef]

Welcome to the forum!I personally think you should keep the GMT II and save for a GMT IIc. While I am not a TT fan, if you get a TT GMT IIc, it would be a nice contrast/change to the GMT II. That way you would never get tired of one or the other. Although they are both GMT's, they are totally different watches in all but function (dual time zone.) Good luck in your dillema.

[unclesallie]

keep what ya got. when you've been here for awhile you'll hear a whole lot of sad stories about members who've traded or sold their Rolexes, only to miss them later.
this Forum is like a school of dolphins, lots of FLIPPERS
best,
dan

[BillA]

Steve
There are other bezels avail for your watch, I don't know if this helps, our moderator likes the Coke version, some like the Pepsi. This might help. Best of luck

[Beef]

Originally Posted by unclesallie

keep what ya got. when you've been here for awhile you'll hear a whole lot of sad stories about members who've traded or sold their Rolexes, only to miss them later.
this Forum is like a school of dolphins, lots of FLIPPERS
best,
dan

To add to Dan's point, stick around here for a while before you do anything. The people on this forum have opened my eyes and made me appreciate watches that I'd previously overlooked. You never know what you may want or wish you had done in a couple of months. But knowledge is power. And there always be watches out there.

[East Bay Rider]

Welcome Steve.
I was in the same boat as you are back in Oct. '07 when I got my Z series GMT-ll 16710. I started learning more and researching this cool new watch and then I learned there was a newer and "better" model being introduced. The new GMT-llc is a really nice watch in both SS and TT. I started worrying that mine was somehow less than the new one. I knew I couldn't trade mine in (it was a gift from my wife ). Then I got to know the new 116710 a bit and started comparing features. While I like the new clasp, I do not like the polished links. While I like the features behind the triplock crown, I do not like the increased size (and they are both rated to 100m). I have never been that deep and if I ever am, I'll have bigger worries than if my watch can handle it. While I like the reported fade resistance of the ceramic bezel, I like the more understated, smaller numbered, classic bezel more (do they really fade?). Some people have commented that the numbers on the TT ceramic bezel look more yellow than gold.
I prefer the old dial over the newer maxi dial based on looks. I have commented that I think the maxi dial looks "cartoonish" compared to the smaller dots and narrower hands on the classic. Just my old fashioned opinion.
RolexRolexRolex branding on the chapter ring? Yes at first I thought it was pretty neat but it already says Rolex on the dial and I would like the watch just as much if it didn't say it at all. Maybe more.
Parachrom spring - of course everyone wants that but my watch has been fast anywhere from 3 - 11 seconds per month - that's pretty good so I don't worry too much about accuracy.
So you see that as I learned more and more, I was able to talk myself into accepting the old classic style in preference to the new. What luck as that's what I have.

[Norm]

I have been on both sides of this. I once bought a Toyota Forerunner 1994 without 4 wheel ABS (it only had rear) only to find out later that 4 wheel ABS was an option. I wanted to trade right away but the hit on trade in would be too big so I stuck with it for two years then traded anyway. I bought a Suzuki Burgman 400 when I really wanted a Honda Silver Wing but I didn't want to pony up the extra 3 grand. I regretted that so much that 4 months later I traded for the Silver Wing and ended up paying even more than if I had just gotten what I wanted from the beginning. There is no right or wrong but the members here are great because they appreciate all the models and have definitely made me appreciate a watch I had long under appreciated (my 1992 TT DJ). But if, after spending a few weeks here, you still find yourself lusting for the newer model then I'll take the contrary point of view and say trade it for what you really want if your funds allow. Do keep in mind though that the grand or two hit you take on trade in may be a good start to a second watch.

[bsodmike]

I'm not a flipper, however at the time I probably looked like one

For many months my SD was bugging me and I had started to HATE the rattling of the older style bracelets. Who am I kidding, it looks cheap when you open it, and rattles when closed.

Sure, it gets the job done but that's besides the point...



It was bye bye to my SD, and I did the unthinkable and asked my AD to show me the TTIIC...it was love at first sight, so it was bye bye to this as well...



...and now I'm, four months later, still over the moon with it!!



It is hands down a far far better watch than the 16710. The bracelet is perfect, the extra comfort link is a god send. The Maxi-Dial and hands are fantastic - I give it a blast with my Surefire and it'll glow light a torch (lighting up the room a bit) all night long. The bezel clicks so smoothly, and it's well accurate :)

All the best in making your decision...

[ZROLEX]

Boy, I would say this dilemma is really tough!!!!
I would agree on most comments were given to you. But you are the one who have to decide.
Check out this comparison I made and there are great pics Mike put that you can see and decide one to each other.
http://rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=39080&highlight
Whatever you will decide I'm sure you won't go wrong, both of watches are great!

[HDHNTER]

Originally Posted by shedlock2000

Hi all,
I like the classic refined look of the older GMT, and the bezel with multipul positions inside an hour (handy for egg timing!) and the less 'in your face' numerics on the bezel face. But i like the ceramic bezel, and the lareger triplock crown, the rolex written on the inside rimm of the casing, and the anti glare cyclops, and i most of all love the bracelet and clasp! at last they fixed the biggest let down to the watch. But i am not so certain about the bigger decals and markings on the face and the bigger bolder casing and bezel marings, nor am i certain if i like the steel and gold, or the steel,

You summed up my hang-ups with the GMT IIc perfectly.

The lack of the Triplock Crown is the only downside to the older GMT in my opinion & it's by no means a deal breaker for me. Keep & enjoy what you have, if you need to "convince" yourself you like something then you truly don't. As pricey as these watches are it has to be a love at first sight thing for me before I'll part with my hard earned money. I to struggled with the new GMT IIc, the compulsive collector side of me told me I should love it because it's the latest greatest thing but I couldn't sell my heart on it. Fortunately there are plenty of GMT IIc's out there & will be for a long time to come so if you change your mind you can pick one up later on.

[Texsubmariner]

That's a tough dilemma you are in! For me, I don't think I could sensibly have 2 watches with the same function, especially since I am not a watch collector. I think you just need to spend a lot of time at an AD, comparing the 2 watches, then make your decision.

[shedlock2000]

Thankyou all for your comments and suggestions. You have summed up my issies and thoughts, and you have raised some very good points. I particulaly liked the advice to read more on the forum and wait awhile before rushing into a descision. thankyou all for your help and your welcom to the forum, i look forward to reading more and commenting with you all. I look forward to anymore advice there is. Its a difficult descision to make, when there are so few fdifferences between the watches.

[GoldenBear]

Newer doesn't always mean better. I bought my Blue TT Sub weeks before they came out with the solid gold through the clasp. At first, I was disappointed. I didn't have the "newest" one. Then I realized I had the last version of this timeless classic. Besides, the clasp takes the most abuse and the gold would quickly get trashed. I soon realized that I would prefer the SS clasp over the gold. You may want to change, but think about it...you still have a classic. It is one of the last of the "greats" before all of the improvements like the shiny bracelet, etc. that turn many people off.

[watchnut]

As a long time Black bezel GMT wearer I would keep the one you have. I'm not a big fan of the larger lugs/case on the new one or the large numbers on the bezel. Not to trash the new one as I have'nt seen one in person. The bracelet is a definite plus as is the mainspring. If you find you can't live without it I personally would'nt have a problem owning the SS and the new TT model. What the hell, you might as well join the club and have more watches than sense like the rest of us!

[shedlock2000]

A little was mentioned about a GMT IIc braclet on the GMT II, can anyone give any further information?

[pwrslider]

My 2 cents.......

I approached this forum when I was considering the IIc a couple of months ago. I felt that the GMT was too similar to my Expy....and I couldn't rationalize having both. Affordability wasn't an issue....just the wrist time.

I was convinced that if I got rid of my Expy II...which by the way was my first Rolex....I would regret it. The members were right.....I kept it and picked up the IIc. Sure..the wrist time is still an issue...but I don't think I could have forgiven myself if I wasn't able to pass down my 1st Rolex to my son. I saved and saved for that first one...and I think it will always mean the most to me.

Keep the GMT....and save up for the IIc later.

[CoopJr]

Personally speaking, I once owned a Coke bezel GMT. I sold it and really regret it. I have had the new IIc on my wrist and it really didn't float my boat as much as I thought it should. I would hold on to your GMT and see if the feelings persist. They are not making yours anymore while the IIc is being made for the foreseeable future.