Please identify these Lady DateJust watches

[qadhi]

Need help in identifying these watches..I am basically looking for a model/reference number and build circa..both of these are without box/papers..medium size is going for $5000 and smaller one for $4550

[HogwldFLTR]

Remove the bracelets and it will show the serial number and model number and give you precise ID. They seem over prices imho.

[andrewd]

maybe this needs to be in the Watch Out section. I suspect that these are not genuine. Lets wait for crown collection's verdict.

[crowncollection]

well you have sapphire crystal on both, that narrows it down if original to the watch, the one you call midsize is a normal 36mm mens datejust 16233G, i can't tell you from those pics if the diamond dial is original it could be at a glance. However, older models have sapphire crystal conversions done these days so could be a jazed up 16013 too. The midsize is model 68273G again if the sapphire is original install can't tell from your pics, clasp symbol worries me on the midsize, would need to see the inside to make a definitive call

[andrewd]

looks like my suspicions were unfounded. I was worried about what looked like gold plating wearing off centre links of watch on the left, plus a low mag cyclops. If crown collection thinks they are ok then you are fine.

[qadhi]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

well you have sapphire crystal on both, that narrows it down if original to the watch, the one you call midsize is a normal 36mm mens datejust 16233G, i can't tell you from those pics if the diamond dial is original it could be at a glance. However, older models have sapphire crystal conversions done these days so could be a jazed up 16013 too. The midsize is model 68273G again if the sapphire is original install can't tell from your pics, clasp symbol worries me on the midsize, would need to see the inside to make a definitive call

thanks for having a look. I was not comfortable with the seller as there were no box/papers and even though he said he guarantee its authenticity but there is no warranty of the watch parts/movement as soon as I go out of the shop..not acceptable so I have dropped this stop from my list.

Found a Rolex Lady DateJust 69173 for $3k with complete box, papers and service history and bought it. I have posted it in the watchout section just in case I have to go back and return it to the buyer.